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A Check Back In With Ferguson

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Attorney General Eric Holder's findings are pretty much exactly what protesters in Ferguson have been saying this whole time.

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Thoughts?
 
It is very obvious that there have been racist practices being let slide in that community. If you only look at the stats that have been researched, you will see there are many inconsistencies with things like the ratio of arrests of black people to white people for the exact same crimes, the number of tickets being written for petty crimes, so on and so forth. Unfortunately, Ferguson, MO is a city where racism is still alive and acceptable to many and in different forms. This is a prime example of how often it is ignored and claimed to be "perceived" by those experiencing the racism and prejudice they face. The biggest problem is, though, that someone got off Scott free and no one--for now--is going to pay for the wrongdoings against certain races.
 
Not even Eric Holder the king of haters to ever hold his position could find any wrong doing in this case. But he had to throw a bone out there and say even though the crime in that area is committed overwhelmingly by one race well dammit those cops must be racists for doing there jobs. Close up the police department for that entire area and the first ones to scream we need help when things go to hell will the be the ones who screamed racist pig cops when all this started.
 
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Dee said:
The biggest problem is, though, that someone got off Scott free and no one--for now--is going to pay for the wrongdoings against certain races.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...when did Darren Wilson get-off scot-free? The St. Louis Co. Grand Jury investigated him six ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict, the Justice Dept. investigated him seven ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict either...or does it only apply under certain circumstances? :|
 
Webster said:
Dee said:
The biggest problem is, though, that someone got off Scott free and no one--for now--is going to pay for the wrongdoings against certain races.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...when did Darren Wilson get-off scot-free? The St. Louis Co. Grand Jury investigated him six ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict, the Justice Dept. investigated him seven ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict either...or does it only apply under certain circumstances? :|

I wasn't talking about Darren Wilson. I understand he was investigated "six ways from Saturday" and probably by intensely biased groups, but hey, whatever, that's the way this government runs. In any case, that avenue is closed. But someone in the department allowed the racist practices and someone needs to pay for it.  Obviously, that won't be Wilson, who I never mentioned in the first place, but I guarantee you nothing will happen in any case.
 
Dee said:
Webster said:
Dee said:
The biggest problem is, though, that someone got off Scott free and no one--for now--is going to pay for the wrongdoings against certain races.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...when did Darren Wilson get-off scot-free? The St. Louis Co. Grand Jury investigated him six ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict, the Justice Dept. investigated him seven ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict either...or does it only apply under certain circumstances? :|

I wasn't talking about Darren Wilson. I understand he was investigated "six ways from Saturday" and probably by intensely biased groups, but hey, whatever, that's the way this government runs. In any case, that avenue is closed. But someone in the department allowed the racist practices and someone needs to pay for it.  Obviously, that won't be Wilson, who I never mentioned in the first place, but I guarantee you nothing will happen in any case.

Going after the the very people committing the crimes is a racist practice? Hell, just asking that question is racist now.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
Webster said:
Dee said:
The biggest problem is, though, that someone got off Scott free and no one--for now--is going to pay for the wrongdoings against certain races.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...when did Darren Wilson get-off scot-free? The St. Louis Co. Grand Jury investigated him six ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict, the Justice Dept. investigated him seven ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict either...or does it only apply under certain circumstances? :|

I wasn't talking about Darren Wilson. I understand he was investigated "six ways from Saturday" and probably by intensely biased groups, but hey, whatever, that's the way this government runs. In any case, that avenue is closed. But someone in the department allowed the racist practices and someone needs to pay for it.  Obviously, that won't be Wilson, who I never mentioned in the first place, but I guarantee you nothing will happen in any case.

Going after the the very people committing the crimes is a racist practice? Hell, just asking that question is racist now.

This is the exact mind set that stalls us from actually making any progress; a refusal to acknowledge that in some or many cases, racism is what drives a lot of people still, be it teachers, doctors, realtors, and yes... gasp! Even police.
 
Racism.

Any word can be derogatory when you make it sound derogatory.  For example: Ugh... Pepperoni!!!

Kidding aside, the main cause of racism is fear.  And fear is a natural trait of any human being.  What is it they're afraid of?  It's basically the lack of knowledge.  They don't understand how other person feels because they can't see through the color of one's skin.  I do not like to make sweeping attacks, but there is a majority of people who know nothing except what other people or media feed them.  I'm not sure if historical data are accurate since it's the dominating faction that decides what becomes of history, but based on what is recorded, there has been a number of untoward incidences involving the minority and it was sensationalized.  If there is anything to blame, it is the society who is at fault.

I'm not justifying their actions.  I'm merely saying that these people do not have enough self awareness that they need to rely on other people to tell them what to believe.  (Rather, it's a politer way of saying they're stupid.)
 
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
Webster said:
Dee said:
The biggest problem is, though, that someone got off Scott free and no one--for now--is going to pay for the wrongdoings against certain races.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...when did Darren Wilson get-off scot-free? The St. Louis Co. Grand Jury investigated him six ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict, the Justice Dept. investigated him seven ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict either...or does it only apply under certain circumstances? :|

I wasn't talking about Darren Wilson. I understand he was investigated "six ways from Saturday" and probably by intensely biased groups, but hey, whatever, that's the way this government runs. In any case, that avenue is closed. But someone in the department allowed the racist practices and someone needs to pay for it.  Obviously, that won't be Wilson, who I never mentioned in the first place, but I guarantee you nothing will happen in any case.

Going after the the very people committing the crimes is a racist practice? Hell, just asking that question is racist now.

This is the exact mind set that stalls us from actually making any progress; a refusal to acknowledge that in some or many cases, racism is what drives a lot of people still, be it teachers, doctors, realtors, and yes... gasp! Even police.

Stalling us from making progress? I do not even understand that comment. For gods sakes we have a black president only because whites decided to vote for him. We have black people in all aspects of federal and local government in every state. Interracial marriages and relationships are common place and overwhelmingly excepted by Americans. Blacks are more successful and rich then ever before because racism is rare and they have the freedom to become wealthy.


http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2014...illion-dollars-buying-power-putting-good-use/[font='Playfair Display', times, serif]African Americans Have $1.1 Trillion in Buying Power, Are We Putting Our Money to Good Use?[/font]

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http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2014/02/african-americans-1-1-trillion-dollars-buying-power-putting-good-use/

So it is time to except that where there is problems in the black community is not because of the police but of there very own making. 
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
Webster said:
Dee said:
The biggest problem is, though, that someone got off Scott free and no one--for now--is going to pay for the wrongdoings against certain races.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...when did Darren Wilson get-off scot-free? The St. Louis Co. Grand Jury investigated him six ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict, the Justice Dept. investigated him seven ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict either...or does it only apply under certain circumstances? :|

I wasn't talking about Darren Wilson. I understand he was investigated "six ways from Saturday" and probably by intensely biased groups, but hey, whatever, that's the way this government runs. In any case, that avenue is closed. But someone in the department allowed the racist practices and someone needs to pay for it.  Obviously, that won't be Wilson, who I never mentioned in the first place, but I guarantee you nothing will happen in any case.

Going after the the very people committing the crimes is a racist practice? Hell, just asking that question is racist now.

This is the exact mind set that stalls us from actually making any progress; a refusal to acknowledge that in some or many cases, racism is what drives a lot of people still, be it teachers, doctors, realtors, and yes... gasp! Even police.

Stalling us from making progress? I do not even understand that comment. For gods sakes we have a black president only because whites decided to vote for him. We have black people in all aspects of federal and local government in every state. Interracial marriages and relationships are common place and overwhelmingly excepted by Americans. Blacks are more successful and rich then ever before because racism is rare and they have the freedom to become wealthy.

And yet it was white people questioning his ethnicity and the legitimacy of his birth in the U.S., claiming he must've been middle eastern or something horrible lyke dem turrists Bush warned them about! Simply voting in a black president doesn't mean shit when there have been quite a few instances of racism in the news all throughout the country.   The only thing it may mean is, yeah, we are making small steps, but considering the kinds of and immense changes we've made otherwise, it's hard to believe the amount of ignorance, racism, prejudice, and downright hate we still see today.
 
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
Webster said:
Dee said:
The biggest problem is, though, that someone got off Scott free and no one--for now--is going to pay for the wrongdoings against certain races.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...when did Darren Wilson get-off scot-free? The St. Louis Co. Grand Jury investigated him six ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict, the Justice Dept. investigated him seven ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict either...or does it only apply under certain circumstances? :|

I wasn't talking about Darren Wilson. I understand he was investigated "six ways from Saturday" and probably by intensely biased groups, but hey, whatever, that's the way this government runs. In any case, that avenue is closed. But someone in the department allowed the racist practices and someone needs to pay for it.  Obviously, that won't be Wilson, who I never mentioned in the first place, but I guarantee you nothing will happen in any case.

Going after the the very people committing the crimes is a racist practice? Hell, just asking that question is racist now.

This is the exact mind set that stalls us from actually making any progress; a refusal to acknowledge that in some or many cases, racism is what drives a lot of people still, be it teachers, doctors, realtors, and yes... gasp! Even police.

Stalling us from making progress? I do not even understand that comment. For gods sakes we have a black president only because whites decided to vote for him. We have black people in all aspects of federal and local government in every state. Interracial marriages and relationships are common place and overwhelmingly excepted by Americans. Blacks are more successful and rich then ever before because racism is rare and they have the freedom to become wealthy.

And yet it was white people questioning his ethnicity and the legitimacy of his birth in the U.S., claiming he must've been middle eastern or something horrible lyke dem turrists Bush warned them about! Simply voting in a black president doesn't mean shit when there have been quite a few instances of racism in the news all throughout the country.   The only thing it may mean is, yeah, we are making small steps, but considering the kinds of and immense changes we've made otherwise, it's hard to believe the amount of ignorance, racism, prejudice, and downright hate we still see today.

People like me are questioning the man on what you mentioned above because of facts and who he is not because of color.

Please! They go after obama no less then all other presidents because of his policies not because the easy out of it all being about race. It is a tired and pathetic excuse anymore.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
Webster said:
Dee said:
The biggest problem is, though, that someone got off Scott free and no one--for now--is going to pay for the wrongdoings against certain races.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...when did Darren Wilson get-off scot-free? The St. Louis Co. Grand Jury investigated him six ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict, the Justice Dept. investigated him seven ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict either...or does it only apply under certain circumstances? :|

I wasn't talking about Darren Wilson. I understand he was investigated "six ways from Saturday" and probably by intensely biased groups, but hey, whatever, that's the way this government runs. In any case, that avenue is closed. But someone in the department allowed the racist practices and someone needs to pay for it.  Obviously, that won't be Wilson, who I never mentioned in the first place, but I guarantee you nothing will happen in any case.

Going after the the very people committing the crimes is a racist practice? Hell, just asking that question is racist now.

This is the exact mind set that stalls us from actually making any progress; a refusal to acknowledge that in some or many cases, racism is what drives a lot of people still, be it teachers, doctors, realtors, and yes... gasp! Even police.

Stalling us from making progress? I do not even understand that comment. For gods sakes we have a black president only because whites decided to vote for him. We have black people in all aspects of federal and local government in every state. Interracial marriages and relationships are common place and overwhelmingly excepted by Americans. Blacks are more successful and rich then ever before because racism is rare and they have the freedom to become wealthy.

And yet it was white people questioning his ethnicity and the legitimacy of his birth in the U.S., claiming he must've been middle eastern or something horrible lyke dem turrists Bush warned them about! Simply voting in a black president doesn't mean shit when there have been quite a few instances of racism in the news all throughout the country.   The only thing it may mean is, yeah, we are making small steps, but considering the kinds of and immense changes we've made otherwise, it's hard to believe the amount of ignorance, racism, prejudice, and downright hate we still see today.

People like me are questioning the man on what you mentioned above because of facts and who he is not because of color.

Please! They go after obama no less then all other presidents because of his policies not because the easy out of it all being about race. It is a tired and pathetic excuse anymore.

What, the fact that he was born in a state belonging to the USA? Right.  I understand that they go after him for his policies, but quite a bit of it was driven purely by the color of his skin.  The question, "Where does he come from?" and "let's provide proof!" is a round about way of saying we don't trust this guy EVEN BEFORE he had a chance to get into office.
 
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
Webster said:
Dee said:
The biggest problem is, though, that someone got off Scott free and no one--for now--is going to pay for the wrongdoings against certain races.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...when did Darren Wilson get-off scot-free? The St. Louis Co. Grand Jury investigated him six ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict, the Justice Dept. investigated him seven ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict either...or does it only apply under certain circumstances? :|

I wasn't talking about Darren Wilson. I understand he was investigated "six ways from Saturday" and probably by intensely biased groups, but hey, whatever, that's the way this government runs. In any case, that avenue is closed. But someone in the department allowed the racist practices and someone needs to pay for it.  Obviously, that won't be Wilson, who I never mentioned in the first place, but I guarantee you nothing will happen in any case.

Going after the the very people committing the crimes is a racist practice? Hell, just asking that question is racist now.

This is the exact mind set that stalls us from actually making any progress; a refusal to acknowledge that in some or many cases, racism is what drives a lot of people still, be it teachers, doctors, realtors, and yes... gasp! Even police.

Stalling us from making progress? I do not even understand that comment. For gods sakes we have a black president only because whites decided to vote for him. We have black people in all aspects of federal and local government in every state. Interracial marriages and relationships are common place and overwhelmingly excepted by Americans. Blacks are more successful and rich then ever before because racism is rare and they have the freedom to become wealthy.

And yet it was white people questioning his ethnicity and the legitimacy of his birth in the U.S., claiming he must've been middle eastern or something horrible lyke dem turrists Bush warned them about! Simply voting in a black president doesn't mean shit when there have been quite a few instances of racism in the news all throughout the country.   The only thing it may mean is, yeah, we are making small steps, but considering the kinds of and immense changes we've made otherwise, it's hard to believe the amount of ignorance, racism, prejudice, and downright hate we still see today.

People like me are questioning the man on what you mentioned above because of facts and who he is not because of color.

Please! They go after obama no less then all other presidents because of his policies not because the easy out of it all being about race. It is a tired and pathetic excuse anymore.

What, the fact that he was born in a state belonging to the USA? Right.  I understand that they go after him for his policies, but quite a bit of it was driven purely by the color of his skin.  The question, "Where does he come from?" and "let's provide proof!" is a round about way of saying we don't trust this guy EVEN BEFORE he had a chance to get into office.

The fact he is not natural born American yes has nothing to do with race. Again it is what he believes that is in question not race. What I despise and hate about the man so much is what he believes but it is such a easy out to try and shut down people who also do not like what he stands for. Again it is truly pathetic.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
Webster said:
Dee said:
The biggest problem is, though, that someone got off Scott free and no one--for now--is going to pay for the wrongdoings against certain races.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...when did Darren Wilson get-off scot-free? The St. Louis Co. Grand Jury investigated him six ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict, the Justice Dept. investigated him seven ways from Saturday and couldn't find enough evidence to indict either...or does it only apply under certain circumstances? :|

I wasn't talking about Darren Wilson. I understand he was investigated "six ways from Saturday" and probably by intensely biased groups, but hey, whatever, that's the way this government runs. In any case, that avenue is closed. But someone in the department allowed the racist practices and someone needs to pay for it.  Obviously, that won't be Wilson, who I never mentioned in the first place, but I guarantee you nothing will happen in any case.

Going after the the very people committing the crimes is a racist practice? Hell, just asking that question is racist now.

This is the exact mind set that stalls us from actually making any progress; a refusal to acknowledge that in some or many cases, racism is what drives a lot of people still, be it teachers, doctors, realtors, and yes... gasp! Even police.

Stalling us from making progress? I do not even understand that comment. For gods sakes we have a black president only because whites decided to vote for him. We have black people in all aspects of federal and local government in every state. Interracial marriages and relationships are common place and overwhelmingly excepted by Americans. Blacks are more successful and rich then ever before because racism is rare and they have the freedom to become wealthy.

And yet it was white people questioning his ethnicity and the legitimacy of his birth in the U.S., claiming he must've been middle eastern or something horrible lyke dem turrists Bush warned them about! Simply voting in a black president doesn't mean shit when there have been quite a few instances of racism in the news all throughout the country.   The only thing it may mean is, yeah, we are making small steps, but considering the kinds of and immense changes we've made otherwise, it's hard to believe the amount of ignorance, racism, prejudice, and downright hate we still see today.

People like me are questioning the man on what you mentioned above because of facts and who he is not because of color.

Please! They go after obama no less then all other presidents because of his policies not because the easy out of it all being about race. It is a tired and pathetic excuse anymore.

What, the fact that he was born in a state belonging to the USA? Right.  I understand that they go after him for his policies, but quite a bit of it was driven purely by the color of his skin.  The question, "Where does he come from?" and "let's provide proof!" is a round about way of saying we don't trust this guy EVEN BEFORE he had a chance to get into office.

The fact he is not natural born American yes has nothing to do with race. Again it is what he believes that is in question not race. What I despise and hate about the man so much is what he believes but it is such a easy out to try and shut down people who also do not like what he stands for. Again it is truly pathetic.

Wait wait wait wait wait...are you trying to tell me he wasn't born in the US?  Does being born on an island belonging to the US not count these days?  *shrug*
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
I said he is not a natural born American. I never said he was not born on American soil. Big difference.

I get that, but it still doesn't matter to me.  Technically, a good number of our ancestors, if you want to go back far enough, came from entirely different countries. That logic to me is both a double-standard and hypocritical.
 
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
I said he is not a natural born American. I never said he was not born on American soil. Big difference.

I get that, but it still doesn't matter to me.  Technically, a good number of our ancestors, if you want to go back far enough, came from entirely different countries. That logic to me is both a double-standard and hypocritical.

Ancestors? As long as he had two American born parents while he was born on American soil he is good to go. My dad was in the military stationed in Germany and met a foreigner. So if the Constitution meant anything I should not be allowed to be president either because being born on a military base does not count as natural born. Plus my mother was not a citizen of the United States. So even John McCain should not have been allowed to run for president either. So it has nothing to do with Ancestors and the ever so easy second nature go to racism.   
 
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