Evolution?

[dmc_1]

nope.

 

[Tuesday]

Who says Neaderthal DNA isn't still mixed in with human DNA? 1-4 % of the human genome is believed to derive from Neanderthal DNA for those who do not come from direct African descent.

What are you talking about I didn't say that nor does it matter who said that because just because some portion of human DNA is the same as Neanderthal DNA doesn't mean we are descended from them...I'm sure that bird DNA is all pretty similar but that doesn't mean that chickens and ducks can have children together...also human are largely made of carbon and water does that mean we descended from water or crude oil? DNA is the building blocks of every living thing and much of our DNA is similar to other species that didn't mean we are somehow descended or related to other species...

All I'm saying is that the theory of evolution is not fact unless science can replicate it...until then it's just a theory that might or might not be fact because it hasn't been proven as of yet...

 

[cowcatcher]

As you understand it has the theory of evolution ever been observed in controlled experiments etc...?

I believe Darwin observed what is closest to a controlled experiment on the Galapagos Islands. The islands are close to each other but extremely different in food sources and geography. A common ancestor tortoise is assumed (possibly confirmed today via DNA?), and each island has a unique evolutionary version of the tortoise, adapted to the island's unique characteristics, so much so that they can no longer produce offspring with tortoises from the other islands (which is unfortunate because one of the species has become extinct not too many years ago).

 

[Tuesday]

I believe Darwin observed what is closest to a controlled experiment on the Galapagos Islands. The islands are close to each other but extremely different in food sources and geography. A common ancestor tortoise is assumed (possibly confirmed today via DNA?), and each island has a unique evolutionary version of the tortoise, adapted to the island's unique characteristics, so much so that they can no longer produce offspring with tortoises from the other islands (which is unfortunate because one of the species has become extinct not too many years ago).

Link...? Hard to think of any evolution that would prevent humans from different anywhere from being able to have offspring with each other...so as for these Tortoises I'm interested to see how he got to the conclusions you've mentioned...

 

[cowcatcher]

Link...?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species

 

[Tuesday]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species

I'm not finding the part about the tortoises...but it does confirm evolution is a theory though...

 

[cowcatcher]

humans from different anywhere from being able to have offspring with each other

https://www.history.com/news/denisovans-interbreeding-discovery

Link on interbreeding between homo sapiens and our closely related cousins

 

[cowcatcher]

I'm not finding the part about the tortoises...but it does confirm evolution is a theory though

More tortoise goodness here:

https://ielc.libguides.com/sdzg/factsheets/galapagostortoises/taxonomy

but yes, it's just a theory, but there is a lot of evidence.

 

[cowcatcher]

Speaking of theories, is there any scientific basis for gravity?
I thought I heard we were getting close to finding one, and it may be that gravity is weakening.

 

[PGen98]

I'm not finding the part about the tortoises...but it does confirm evolution is a theory though...

So is gravity, and yet look at us attached to terra firma.

 

[~ True Legend ~]

This may be an interesting read: a guy lives underwater for 100 years.

A professor is spending 100 days underwater. Here’s why | Fortune

The previous world record for living underwater is 73 days

fortune.com

He sets out to prove the scientific theory that the increased pressure, causing cells in the body to double, improves longevity of human life and reduces aging related disease.

Will humans essentially evolve to live underwater? Imagine others trying this out, eventually only they remain, especially as the world sinks with global warming, and they produce kids and so on and so forth… the next generations will all live underwater, and benefit from the increased longevity.

Perhaps if we find humans can live underwater safely, we can solve the housing crisis. If it becomes common, we could evolve to live longer lives if the theory is correct.
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Do you believe that we came from monkeys? Why or why not?

I wonder if there is actually definitive evidence or if scientists are simply making assumptions based on commonalities

 

[passenger]

This may be an interesting read: a guy lives underwater for 100 years.

A professor is spending 100 days underwater. Here’s why | Fortune

The previous world record for living underwater is 73 days

fortune.com

That's a rather startling "headline" ; has nothing to do with the article though.

 

[Tuesday]

So is gravity, and yet look at us attached to terra firma.

That's the Law of Gravity it's not a theory like evolution...

This may be an interesting read: a guy lives underwater for 100 years.

A professor is spending 100 days underwater. Here’s why | Fortune

The previous world record for living underwater is 73 days

fortune.com

He sets out to prove the scientific theory that the increased pressure, causing cells in the body to double, improves longevity of human life and reduces aging related disease.

Will humans essentially evolve to live underwater? Imagine others trying this out, eventually only they remain, especially as the world sinks with global warming, and they produce kids and so on and so forth… the next generations will all live underwater, and benefit from the increased longevity.

Perhaps if we find humans can live underwater safely, we can solve the housing crisis. If it becomes common, we could evolve to live longer lives if the theory is correct.
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I wonder if there is actually definitive evidence or if scientists are simply making assumptions based on commonalities

That's 100 days not years right...? Anyways yes a theory is an hypothesis or an assumption...and for evolution there is evidence suggest the theory might be correct but there is nothing definitive no...not yet at least...

Speaking of theories, is there any scientific basis for gravity?
I thought I heard we were getting close to finding one, and it may be that gravity is weakening.

Gravity is proven that's why it's called the Law of Gravity not the theory of gravity...

More tortoise goodness here:

https://ielc.libguides.com/sdzg/factsheets/galapagostortoises/taxonomy

but yes, it's just a theory, but there is a lot of evidence.

Yes that's what I was trying to point out that so far evolution is just a theory and for me I don't believe in it just yet...maybe in future if they can prove it or find more evidence...but for me this theory isn't believable for me yet...

 

[PGen98]

That's the Law of Gravity it's not a theory like evolution...


That's 100 days not years right...? Anyways yes a theory is an hypothesis or an assumption...and for evolution there is evidence suggest the theory might be correct but there is nothing definitive no...not yet at least...


Gravity is proven that's why it's called the Law of Gravity not the theory of gravity...


Yes that's what I was trying to point out that so far evolution is just a theory and for me I don't believe in it just yet...maybe in future if they can prove it or find more evidence...but for me this theory isn't believable for me yet...

You're mistaken. From scientific standpoint the Law of Gravity and the Theory of Gravity are both accurate and both describing different aspects. The law of gravity explains the math, the theory explains the why. Lest we forget the theory of relativity, the theory of gravitation, etc.

 

[ROHAN]

Evolution is an undeniable fact. This is not a suitable topic for debate.

 

[Tuesday]

You're mistaken. From scientific standpoint the Law of Gravity and the Theory of Gravity are both accurate and both describing different aspects. The law of gravity explains the math, the theory explains the why. Lest we forget the theory of relativity, the theory of gravitation, etc.

No...in science laws and theories are very different...a law is something true and proven...a theory is something that might be true but unproven...things can't be a law and theory at the same time...I'll post some links to explain later...

 

[Tuesday]

You're mistaken. From scientific standpoint the Law of Gravity and the Theory of Gravity are both accurate and both describing different aspects. The law of gravity explains the math, the theory explains the why. Lest we forget the theory of relativity, the theory of gravitation, etc.

Evolution is an undeniable fact. This is not a suitable topic for debate.

What’s the difference between a scientific law and theory? (in TED-Ed GIFs)

Chat with a friend about an established scientific theory, and she might reply, “Well, that’s just a theory.” But a conversation about an established scientific law rarely ends with “Well, that’s j…

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So while the majority of the scientific community consider the theory of evolution to be scientific fact it still isn't a proven fact hense the designation of evolution being a theory instead of law...

 

[cowcatcher]

Gravity is proven that's why it's called the Law of Gravity not the theory of gravity...

As I briefly mentioned, I thought I had read that scientists were getting closer to understanding how gravity works, and it might be weakening. That would be an interesting wrinkle to this theory of law that you have.

 

[Tuesday]

As I briefly mentioned, I thought I had read that scientists were getting closer to understanding how gravity works, and it might be weakening. That would be an interesting wrinkle to this theory of law that you have.

Theory of law...? Guess I'll have to post a link to the dictionary definitions of law and theory as well?

 

[Tuesday]

Well here's the dictionary definition of theory:

theory noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com

Definition of theory noun in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. Meaning, pronunciation, picture, example sentences, grammar, usage notes, synonyms and more.

www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com

And for law:

law noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com

Definition of law noun in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. Meaning, pronunciation, picture, example sentences, grammar, usage notes, synonyms and more.

www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com

So law in regards to science in something that always happens after a series of events and theory is not that...