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Free Health Care
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Freddy said:
Well I'd rather not pay for immigrants and poor people who are trying to get by free. They don't realize or understand that they're in the position they are in because they don't work for it. I don't want to pay for those people, especially since I can barely pay for myself.
Xerent said:
Anyways Im all for it. Everyone should receive health care. No matter if they have a job, if they were laid off or fired from their job, disabled, etc. People who have lower paying jobs and are just barely making enough to support their family should be entitled to this as well.
I pay $700 a month for me and my daughter to have insurance. Imagine how comfortably I could be living if I didnt have to pay all that? Let them raise taxes. I'd rather them take $50 or $100 from everyone's check in taxes to cover insurance for everyone than to pay $700 a month just for me and my lil one.
Well of course it isn't free health care because it will come at a cost... a very big cost. I do agree that everyone should have access to affordable health insurance. I also agree we need some sort of change in the health insurance industry to keep prices down. Unfortunately, no one knows what is really in the bill because it keeps changing, and all the deals in the supposedly transparent American government are going on behind closed doors.
Everyone does receive health care if they need it. It is illegal to deny someone health care if it threatens their life (and maybe if it doesn't, I'm not positive on that part..) So people won't be dying on the streets as many people try to make us believe is happening.
But you're right, health insurance is very expensive right now, and prices are just rising...
One option is if we have state plans. Each state could have their own plans, and people could buy across state boundaries. This would be much cheaper, more individualized than one giant federal plan, and prices would stay down because of competition between the states. That's one alternative to the secret giant being passed through Congress right now.
I've heard both good and bad stories about government-run health care from people in other countries. This really is a tricky issue, because so much of it is so confusing and debatable, more than other issues even.
Everyone does receive health care if they need it. It is illegal to deny someone health care if it threatens their life (and maybe if it doesn't, I'm not positive on that part..) So people won't be dying on the streets as many people try to make us believe is happening.
But you're right, health insurance is very expensive right now, and prices are just rising...
One option is if we have state plans. Each state could have their own plans, and people could buy across state boundaries. This would be much cheaper, more individualized than one giant federal plan, and prices would stay down because of competition between the states. That's one alternative to the secret giant being passed through Congress right now.
I've heard both good and bad stories about government-run health care from people in other countries. This really is a tricky issue, because so much of it is so confusing and debatable, more than other issues even.
Josh said:
Sure they get treated, but they will be in debt for the rest of their lives if they dont have insurance..
Most people avoid going to the doctor because they cant afford it and they are slowly dying because they are ignoring whatever is wrong with them.
Free health care? Nothing is free. The government could only provide such health care through taxation and other revenues; therefore, since we pay taxes, we're paying for our own health care already. Yeah, free health care would be nice, but a country can't just print more paper money and not have any gold to back it up. If the government paid for everyone to have health care, I see a whole lot of deficit spending and debt. It works in countries like Switzerland, but nations like the US, that's too big of an amount to pay for. I believe that everyone should have health care, but free just isn't the way I'd go about with it.
I say let them raise the taxes. Like I said, I'd rather everyone pay $50 or $100 in taxes each month than having the pay the $700 I have to pay right now. Sure it might be an inconvenience for people who choose to not take insurance from their employer (because they are on family member's insurance or whatever) but its better for everyone else struggling to get by or slowly dying because they cant afford to take care of themselves.
Quality health care will never exist as long as it and health insurance remains a for profit business. People are profiting off of not providing quality health care hence why it's so terrible in the US.
I think most European countries have free health care or at least cheaper health care.
I do know Scandinavian countries have free/cheap health care, and among the highest taxes in the world. I think Denmark have the highest taxes in the world, but their population is also ranked the happiest in the world.
Personally I think most Scandinavians are utilitarians The greatest happines for the greatest amount of people..
I see nothing wrong with people taking care of each other. There was a case in Sweden a few years ago about a woman that had 3 kids, she got cancer and her insurance didn't cover it. However when the Swedish population heard about it, I think most of them threatened to change insurance company... Needles to say the woman got free treatment after that threat form the rest of the population being their customers. (I'm not sure about the details about this story since it's just taken from memory)
Honestly I don't mind paying high taxes to get free/cheap health care. Everyone gets help if necessary, even you yourself. Everyone benefits.
I do know Scandinavian countries have free/cheap health care, and among the highest taxes in the world. I think Denmark have the highest taxes in the world, but their population is also ranked the happiest in the world.
Personally I think most Scandinavians are utilitarians The greatest happines for the greatest amount of people..
I see nothing wrong with people taking care of each other. There was a case in Sweden a few years ago about a woman that had 3 kids, she got cancer and her insurance didn't cover it. However when the Swedish population heard about it, I think most of them threatened to change insurance company... Needles to say the woman got free treatment after that threat form the rest of the population being their customers. (I'm not sure about the details about this story since it's just taken from memory)
Honestly I don't mind paying high taxes to get free/cheap health care. Everyone gets help if necessary, even you yourself. Everyone benefits.
Even though it always causes debt and tax rises, at least people who get ill (most of the time it's not their fault, and they can't help it) and can't afford it can get free healthcare. The only people I think shouldn't be entitled are those who knowingly harm themselves by drinking, smoking, doing drugs, etc.
I live in Canada, and I have Alberta Health Care. that means that a certain amount of money is taken out of my paycheck each month and it goes towards the doctors. now, I might not ever use that money, but now it's there if I ever do need it. the only things that aren't covered are prescriptions and cosmetic surgery.
I love the everyone pays for everyone health care here. It's good to know you're always covered if some crappy disease comes your way.
Well someone has to pay for the medicine, equipment, and all the hospital staff.
I'd rather it be everyone in the country paying for it than having to buy an insurance plan or having to use your employer's benefits package. They take a big chunk out of your paycheck then when you have to go in for any reason, they require a co-pay and you have to co pay for perscriptions. Its cheaper just to be sick or injured than to get treated.
I'd rather it be everyone in the country paying for it than having to buy an insurance plan or having to use your employer's benefits package. They take a big chunk out of your paycheck then when you have to go in for any reason, they require a co-pay and you have to co pay for perscriptions. Its cheaper just to be sick or injured than to get treated.
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