Iraq asks for US ground troops

[DrLeftover]

11 Oct 2014

Iraqi officials have issued a desperate plea for America to bring US ground troops back to the embattled country, as heavily armed Islamic State militants came within striking distance of Baghdad.

Amid reports that Isil forces have advanced as far as Abu Ghraib, a town that is effectively a suburb of Baghdad, a senior governor claimed up to 10,000 fighters from the movement were now poised to assault the capital.

The warning came from Sabah al-Karhout, president of the provisional council of Anbar Province, the vast desert province to the west of Baghdad that has now largely fallen under jihadist control.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11156264/Iraq-asks-for-US-ground-troops-as-Isil-threaten-Baghdad.html

 

[DrLeftover]

11 Oct

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'Fall in days'

Anbar's provincial council submitted a request to the Iraqi government asking for US ground troops to help fight IS militants, Iraq's al-Sharqiyah TV reported.

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has repeatedly ruled out any foreign ground troops in Iraq.

The US military has carried out several air strikes on IS militants, preventing them from seizing the Haditha dam. However, IS militants are still advancing in the province.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29581193

 

[DrLeftover]

REYHANLI, Turkey — The U.S.-led air war in Syria has gotten off to a rocky start, with even the Syrian rebel groups closest to the United States turning against it, U.S. ally Turkey refusing to contribute and the plight of a beleaguered Kurdish town exposing the limitations of the strategy.

U.S. officials caution that the strikes are just the beginning of a broader strategy that could take years to carry out. But the anger that the attacks have stirred risks undermining the effort, analysts and rebels say.

The main beneficiary of the strikes so far appears to be President Bashar al-Assad, whose forces have taken advantage of the shift in the military balance to step up attacks against the moderate rebels designated by President Obama as partners of the United States in the war against extremists.

The U.S. targets have included oil facilities, a granary and an electricity plant under Islamic State control. The damage to those facilities has caused shortages and price hikes across the rebel-held north that are harming ordinary Syrians more than the well-funded militants, residents and activists say.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/us-led-air-war-in-syria-is-off-to-a-difficult-start-with-moderate-rebels-disenchanted/2014/10/10/e0949dfa-4fe9-11e4-aa5e-7153e466a02d_story.html

 

[Webster]

Rhetorical question here: Don't we already have ground troops in Iraq at present?

 

[DrLeftover]

not direct combat units

 

[Webster]

not direct combat units

Weren't those what both Presidents Bush & Obama wanted to leave - at residual levels - in Iraq but weren't allowed to do by the Iraqis' themselves?

 

[DrLeftover]

not direct combat units

Weren't those what both Presidents Bush & Obama wanted to leave - at residual levels - in Iraq but weren't allowed to do by the Iraqis' themselves?

Essentially.

 

[Webster]

not direct combat units

Weren't those what both Presidents Bush & Obama wanted to leave - at residual levels - in Iraq but weren't allowed to do by the Iraqis' themselves?

Essentially.

And - correct me if I'm wrong here - wasn't it the Iraqis' who rejected the idea of keeping them there? So...remind me again why we should go back?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

not direct combat units

Weren't those what both Presidents Bush & Obama wanted to leave - at residual levels - in Iraq but weren't allowed to do by the Iraqis' themselves?

Essentially.

And - correct me if I'm wrong here - wasn't it the Iraqis' who rejected the idea of keeping them there? So...remind me again why we should go back?

Thats the lie our dear leader keeps telling us but it is not true.

Besides that not a single American should go there. We can't even do a bombing campaign correctly. As long as the dear leader is in office we would never, ever do what it takes to win a war.

 

[seasidemike]

not direct combat units

Weren't those what both Presidents Bush & Obama wanted to leave - at residual levels - in Iraq but weren't allowed to do by the Iraqis' themselves?

Essentially.

And - correct me if I'm wrong here - wasn't it the Iraqis' who rejected the idea of keeping them there? So...remind me again why we should go back?

maybe, with all due respect, it is because America and the UK created the entire mess over there by de-stabilizing the entire region with the invasion of Iraq just to overthrow Seddam.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

And then never finished the job. We just do not fight wars to truly win them anymore.

 

[Webster]

not direct combat units

Weren't those what both Presidents Bush & Obama wanted to leave - at residual levels - in Iraq but weren't allowed to do by the Iraqis' themselves?

Essentially.

And - correct me if I'm wrong here - wasn't it the Iraqis' who rejected the idea of keeping them there? So...remind me again why we should go back?

maybe, with all due respect, it is because America and the UK created the entire mess over there by de-stabilizing the entire region with the invasion of Iraq just to overthrow Seddam.

Exactly; we should've never gone there in 2003 to start with... *scratches head in thought* ...now we're having to pick up the pieces once again...

 

[Webster]

And then never finished the job. We just do not fight wars to truly win them anymore.

And how would you define 'finishing the job', Liberty?
Explain to all of us why - for that matter - we should've went into Iraq in the first place?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Level everything from Iraq to Iran by using all the really nasty bombs we have and go home. Do not rebuild go home. And send a message if we need to come back again because you even looked at us sideways we will do it again all over and leave you with the mess and misery for millions once again. America is trying to hard to make war look pretty. And our enemies know we do not fight dirty like them and they love it. Its way past time we use the ugly and very destructive weapons tax payers paid trillions for.

 

[Webster]

Level everything from Iraq to Iran by using all the really nasty bombs we have and go home. Do not rebuild go home. And send a message if we need to come back again because you even looked at us sideways we will do it again all over and leave you with the mess and misery for millions once again. America is trying to hard to make war look pretty. And our enemies know we do not fight dirty like them and they love it. Its way past time we use the ugly and very destructive weapons tax payers paid trillions for.

And in the process, we create even more enemies...you know, Liberty, if you're so fired up to blow up everything, why don't you put on a uniform, grab a rifle and go over there and fight them?

Of course, if we didn't mess in every country's affairs at the least opportunity, we might not have to worry about having so many damn enemies in the world...