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Damian

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This is a big subject for me and a quite important one. Over the years I have come to realise and accept that the times of good mainstream ,and not, music are over and I was never even there to see them because of my age. If I were an old man I would probably think all of that was just because I was growing old and couldn't understand and get into the new generation's music. But that's not the case thankfully. I'm pretty fucking young and hate all modern mainstream music!

In my opinion the good times for music started in the 60s and ended in the 90s. Obviously if you searched through every single song made in the past 20 years there will be a few good ones. But that doesn't change the fact that today's popular music is complete garbage compared to 60s-90s. Let's just give ourselfs some examples. For those times we have The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, The Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Queen, ABBA, Bonnie Tyler, The Mamas and The Papas, Neil Young, Eric Clapton and hundreads of others talented fellows! Heck even Guns n' Roses were better than today's crap. Now let's see what's popular nowadays...Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, Nickelback, Rihanna, PSY, Lil Wayne, One Direction, Miley Cyrus and other shitty crap. Taking just a few minutes to compare some of these bands and songs...the lyrics, the melodies, the sounds, the soul...everything...the old school stuff is 100 times better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjwvrYEJKTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJRN1WcPQxw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzaOdYXiI5I
 
i 100% agree with you there. (;

and people are confused on why i mostly listen to old music.
 
Of course there was music before the 60s but 60s to 90s are my personal favorite times for music and I set them as an example to compare with today's music.
 
The debate over modern music seems beaten to death. Things have changed a lot since the 60s and 70s in terms of how music is produced and marketed. Artists back then didn't have the advantage of social media and YouTube -- things that started the careers of people like Beiber and PSY. I think airplay was more difficult to have back then too. But then again pop music has always been about exposure. Unless you are truly transcendent you have a definite shelf life and your goal is to gain as much exposure as possible. Sampling some of those artists today and you would assume the whole generation was like that. But there were scores of people who faded into irrelevance, from boy bands to one hit wonders, just like today.

Personally, I grew up with NSYNC instead of One Direction and Madonna instead of Lady Gaga, so it doesn't sound the same to me. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's worse. I think music is all about taste; people will listen to what resonates with them. What qualifies as good and bad music is subjective. It's hard to debate that sort of stuff objectively.
 
I think music comes in cycles. When I was a kid there was N*Sync (One Direction), Aaron Carter (Justin Bieber), Usher was a kid who sang R&B love songs instead of a pseudo-gangster rapping about niggaz and weed, etc. Britney Spears did some very Gaga-esque things.

The music of today is really no better or worse than the "old days". It's just perceived differently, generally by people who think their opinion matters.
 
I don't think you understand my point very well. Back in the day artists got famous because they were talented. They were good at what they did and they deserved the fame, the money, everything. But that's not the case anymore. Bands I already mentioned are successful because they were made successful by the music industries. They have no talent, they have bad or normal voices, they don't have their own style, they are boring and have nothing new to offer. But just because they look 'cute' we can make them stars! Use vocal effects, write songs for them, promote them fucking everywhere and people will like them! So yeah, today's music sucks.
 
I am fairly certain grandparents and even parents of this generation's kids think their music sucks and the parents and grandparents of the previous generation thought their music sucks and so forth.

I think the point about it not being good is based more on the music that made up their generation and how it compares to the current stuff then anything else. Music preference is just that... a preference and isn't something rooted in fact that can really be argued at least not in a way that leads to a right or wrong answer as to the quality of any given song or band.
 
Mainstream music sucks, but that doesn't mean music of today sucks, there are some amazing bands that don't get radio and tv play. Just got to look for it.
 
Stormrider said:
Mainstream music sucks, but that doesn't mean music of today sucks, there are some amazing bands that don't get radio and tv play. Just got to look for it.

Enlighten me!
 
In many cases, 'the music of today', IS the music of yesterday.

For instance.

Kraftwerk, from 2013:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOJ3nGAn6tU


The 1981 single:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZYutpYDvMY


And, just to make the point in a way nobody else can:

AUSTRALIA/ NEW ZEALAND RESCHEDULED DATES

The Rolling Stones today confirmed the rescheduled dates and venues for the postponed Australian and New Zealand leg of their 14 ON FIRE Tour.

The rescheduling of the tour to October/November has also allowed for two additional concerts to be added to the tour – one at Perth Arena on Saturday 1 November 2014 and the other at Hope Estate in the Hunter Valley on Saturday 15 November 2014.

Yeah, some of the "grandparents music" is still going.


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Kraftwerk is not rock and the stones are just one exception of an old band still going. That's why they're good in the first place.
 
DrLeftover said:
The thread's OP was not about "rock", but music in general.

Sorry.

That's my fault. I actually thought you were the guy who asked me what I'm into. Sorry :unsure:
 
Damian said:
DrLeftover said:
The thread's OP was not about "rock", but music in general.

Sorry.

That's my fault. I actually thought you were the guy who asked me what I'm into. Sorry :unsure:


I don't remember asking that of you, but it would explain a lot in a couple of threads if you did.

Besides the Beatles, that is.
 
DrLeftover said:
There is something to be said for music prior to "the sixties".

For instance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrhT3ZB-vsI

Just an 'oh, by the way', the record that is playing in the video is a 78 RPM single.

ayup! :tup: though most of what i play with my contemporaries came out of the 60's, 70's and 80's (pop rock music already sucked by 1990), my favorite music is much older. i'll always love baroque, rococo, modern classical music and the old jazz from vaudeville, broadway, bepop and the cool jazz period much more than any modern popular genre of music.

here's a short clip of me butchering the top selling jazz tune of all time and one of the most difficult tunes in the repertoire. if you're fooled into thinking i'm any good and want to hear more, there's a twenty minute video on my channel called 'butchering the standards' with a whole mess of great old jazz tunes that i destroyed on penelope (my horn's name).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rMWEmnHLLQ&feature=player_detailpage
 
Stormrider said:
Mainstream music sucks, but that doesn't mean music of today sucks, there are some amazing bands that don't get radio and tv play. Just got to look for it.

i've been part of the indie music and arts scene since 1982 and have worked with a lot of amazing players from all over the world. nobody i know of is doing anything that's really innovative, but rather doing superlative covers of popular music of the 50's through the 80's or composing their own within the framework of those stylings.

the tucson indie arts family put on a benefit sunday for randy clamons, the leader of top dead center, a grateful dead cover band that's been together for fifteen years to help him defray some heavy medical copay expenses he's having because of cardiovascular problems. best one day show i've ever been to and it was all straight up popular music of that period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUUtUskJUEXolwmHIYOAr6fw&feature=player_embedded&v=t25fPQPOEwg
 
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