Opinion of Obama

[DrLeftover]

Oil isn't just energy. Have you seen the list of products made from crude oil?



Did you see the price increase of corn, a staple food in a large part of the world, when the US government started forcing companies to make gasohol out of corn? Even when things like distilling Switchgrass into alcohol was shown to be more efficient?



Would you care to show me how over its lifespan that a hybrid car, from cradle to grave if you will, is more Earth Friendly than a comparable model standard engine sedan?



How is it green to demand windmills be built, and then to disallow the transmission lines to get the power from where the wind blows to where people live?



Just asking.

 

[Naiwen]

As I'm not American, I don't have an opinion about him. I have too litle info about him and don't get why people hate him.

 

[Oscar]

I'm more interested in North Korea's provocations against the South, Iran's nuclear ambitions, the general anti-Israel attitude (you've got to love Helen Thomas's latest comment while at the White House), the administration's attempts to buy off challengers to established politicians, and the entire EU flushing itself down the hopper.



Has Mr. Obama addressed any of it?

Iran's nucleur ambitions are nothing than ambition. Any attack on Iran by Obama will be an act of war nothing else.

Raw plutonium PU has to be enriched to .8 just for use In X rays and around .10 for treatment of cancer. To enrich PU to the capabilities of a warhead, It must be enriched to 96 and the Irani's just do not have the capibilities. Even If they developed them, It would take around 12 years to enrich PU to that level. There Is absolutely no chance of this with Iran and the blatent propoganda put Into motion by Obama Is simply to protect Isreal and the US Interests In the ME.

 

[nolvorite]

Come on. why are you guys hating on him for 'messing this up' when has been brought on a burden that was caused by the previous presidents?

 

[Odie]

Come on. why are you guys hating on him for 'messing this up' when has been brought on a burden that was caused by the previous presidents?

some just like to complain.

I've never seen anyone who has liked any of the US presidents, have you?



I like him.

 

[DrLeftover]

But Mr. Obama is just like us.....

Arriving in a small jet before the Obamas was the first dog, Bo, a Portuguese water dog given as a present by the late U.S. Sen Ted Kennedy, D-Mass.; and the president's personal aide Reggie Love, who chatted with Baldacci.

http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/white-house-wanderers-tour-acadia_2010-07-16.html





Really? A private plane for the dog?

 

[Temerit]

I read that as the dog got off the plane before the Obamas.

 

[DrLeftover]

You mean he didn't take AF1? Unlikely, but possible.



Did you see this?



http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hJnwMBE7xMJZVNt_R997OWO3fIVQD9H1O0JG3

 

[Wayne]

I can't believe that!

That just takes the p!ss to be honest

 

[N!ck]

Obama is good an all, but he was a little too hyped up.

 

[Corleone]

I quite honestly prefer Barrack Obama to George Bush greatly, sure we aren't getting the changes that we were promised but it does feel like he actually cares about what happens unlike Bush.

That's nothing more than false hope.



All I ever hear is bush did this and bush did that, but it's been two years now, it's time Obama and his administration stop playing the blame game to make themselves look less bad. Sure, it's easy to be positive when you have someone to blame, but the ball is now in his court. Personally, I'm not impressed at all. I watched his campaign and he made a lot of promises which he can't keep. Yeah, he is a great public speaker and is very motivational, but that's all talk unless you actually move on your words and do what you say you'll do.



One example:

 

[Temerit]

Don't post fox news clips, it really does a disservice to those interested in intellectual discourse. Glenn Beck has no clue what he is talking about.

I watched his campaign and he made a lot of promises which he can't keep.

Like what?



Under the new healthcare bill you can keep your current health plan and your doctor. Glenn is blowing up some small thing, and totally transforms what Obama said.



The man hasn't done that bad: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

 

[Corleone]

This has nothing to do with Glenn Beck, it has to do with what Obama said. If you watch the video, skip to the part where Obama admits he broke his promise, word for word.



1:00 - 1:31



Sorry Temerit, but you can't get anymore proof than that.

 

[Temerit]

Sorry Josh but you can. Obama did not write the last minute add-ons to the bill. Obama is no longer a legislator and does not have an invincible hand to determine what goes on in the legislative branch of government.



And he doesn't even really admit to anything, he says that a small number of last minute provisions COULD end up resulting in VERY FEW people having to switch plans.



If you took the time to read the link I posted, you'd find that Obama has kept the overwhelming majority of his promises, and has gotten a lot done for having been in office only a year and a half. Certainly he has kept many more campaign and speech promises than most presidents if not all.

 

[Corleone]

Do I smell the blame game again?

He signed the bill, maybe he should of read it before he signed it into law. He made a promise which he didn't keep. I don't care what the situation is, if you make a promise, you either keep it, or become a liar. Mr. Obama is a liar, because he has failed to keep his promises. Any campaigner can lie and win an election, it's not hard, look at Obama as a prime example. He'll be a one term president.

More lies:

 

[Temerit]

What are you talking about the blame game? This is not a one man government.. maybe you would realize that if you were the least bit educated about anything political.



Obama wasn't about to veto a bill considering the significant and overdue changes and reforms that were in it. It passed in the senate with 60 votes, overriding a presidential veto, so he couldn't have vetoed it if he wanted to.

if you make a promise, you either keep it, or become a liar. Mr. Obama is a liar

Along with every other person on this planet

Damn, the guy's human, what an insult.

Any campaigner can lie and win an election, it's not hard, look at Obama as a prime example.

You keep looking at Obama in isolation. He didn't ever say that all the stuff he was campaigning for was GOING to happen, only that he was going to TRY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. And no, not anyone can lie and win a presidential election. And every politician lies or at least by your standard of a lie.



And no he won't be a one term president, exactly who do you think he will lose to?



Stop watching Fox News and join the rest of us in reality.

 

[Corleone]

None of those videos were from Fox news...

One was on fox news, but it was a video of Obama. Watch them again, too many lies. As far as try to change things, he didn't say I'll try to let you keep your doctor, he said, You will get to keep your doctor. HUGE difference.



I don't understand the political world? It's a debate. No need to get hostile. Anyways, Obama said that the new healthcare bill would NOT eliminate private employer healthcare, yet he states his objective quite clearly here:

 

[Temerit]

he said, You will get to keep your doctor. HUGE difference.

And its true, because he was speaking about his proposal.



America is not going to go to single payer, France and Germany have gone down that road and have come back to a good mix of public, private and non-profit. Because that is the best, where you have private insurance being offered, and yet you also have the government insurance option.



Him stating his objective as single-payer was from 2003. That is no longer the case. The video from 2007 is saying that he could see it leading to single-payer, but the video doesn't tell us what he was saying that in response to, it just insinuates that we was talking about a public option leading to it, but the video clip is cut and Obama says it could lead to single-payer, not that he wants single payer.

 

[Corleone]

I find it very suspicious that he kept his objective of eliminating private employer coverage from 2003 until 2007, then all of a sudden he is in objection to it, after acknowledging that it won't receive the support it needs. Obama knows it, I know it, and hopefully by now you know it, Obama changed his game plan when things started to look bad, because he knew it would hurt his healthcare reform. It's nothing new, he changed his game plan.



It all comes down to looks and views, and to sum it all up, popularity. Obama strives to please everyone by telling them what they want to hear, when they want to hear it. As far as the game plan change goes, sure, people change their mind on certain things, but you don't change your mind after promising the people something.



1) You can keep your own doctor

2) Private insurance will not be eliminated



That's what he's been promising for a while now, but he made it very clear what he wanted, when he wanted it prior to his presidency, which is why I find it stunning that he changes his game plan recently to get the healthcare reform passed.



He didn't say, You may or may not get to keep your own doctor, nor did he say, Private insurance will not be eliminated for at least 20 years. He said you can keep your own doctor, which isn't true, and he said private healthcare will not be eliminated, but he suggested in 2007 that it will potentially end private healthcare in the future. If that's the case, then why would you say private health insurance will not be eliminated, when in fact, it could result in an end to private healthcare. Obama stated that himself, and just because he says private healthcare insurance won't be eliminated doesn't mean he's truthful, because his game plan doesn't line up with common logic. He lied about keeping your own doctor, and his private insurance elimination ordeal doesn't line up at all with what he said then and what he is promising now. A promise is nothing more than a commitment, and people do break them from time to time. His words sound promising, but he contradicts himself, so then he decides to change his game plan. Again, people can change their mind, but once you're committed to something and you've made a promise, which has ultimately led to your success, you're then held accountable to fulfill your promise.



No, no one is perfect, and I do not expect Obama to be superman, but no one has to promise anything they're not certain they can keep, because that's exactly the situation he is in right now.

 

[Temerit]

It's nothing new, he changed his game plan.

It's called compromising.

Obama strives to please everyone

So did FDR.

1) You can keep your own doctor

2) Private insurance will not be eliminated

Both still true, the one that may have been jeopardized is that some people may not be able to keep their same plan.

but he made it very clear what he wanted

Yes, but he didn't get it because this is a Republic, not a dictatorship.

He said you can keep your own doctor

In the plan that he was proposing yeah you can. That's not a lie, its truth.

but he suggested in 2007 that it will potentially end private healthcare in the future

What will? You don't even know because of the unscrupulous video editing.

it could result in an end to private healthcare

Just because it could doesn't mean it will and doesn't mean its likely. The world COULD explode tomorrow.

He lied about keeping your own doctor, and his private insurance elimination

You're the one lying.

A promise is nothing more than a commitment, and people do break them from time to time.

Politicians do quite often in a democracy.

is words sound promising, but he contradicts himself

How so?

but no one has to promise anything they're not certain they can keep, because that's exactly the situation he is in right now.

Have you ever paid any attention to any other politicians?



Bush said that all major combat operations in Iraq were over in 2004/2005.