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Is suicide a selfish act? (Please explain your answer)
 
I believe it can be in some circumstances, but then again, I've never felt so much in pain or depression, anxiety, loneliness, sadness, that I've felt I needed to just end my life and cease to exist. So I can't really say for sure whether it's an entirely selfish act. What about the people who are truly alone and have only themselves to worry about? *shrug*
 
Everybody's circumstance is different. And it must be remembered that it is a permanent solution to what is probably a temporary problem.

And in some cases, as with the cancer patient in Oregon that made the news, it may, in fact, be a reasonable option.

However, in the majority of cases, it is a "cry for help", and the person honestly did not intend to kill themselves, they just could not see a way out of whatever it was.
 
DrLeftover said:
Everybody's circumstance is different. And it must be remembered that it is a permanent solution to what is probably a temporary problem.

And in some cases, as with the cancer patient in Oregon that made the news, it may, in fact, be a reasonable option.

However, in the majority of cases, it is a "cry for help", and the person honestly did not intend to kill themselves, they just could not see a way out of whatever it was.

I agree. In many cases, chances are there IS a possibility for recovery or a life change, but in Brittany's case she was 60-90%~ going to die within a few months/years anyway depending on the treatments she pursued. And even if she pursued other treatments, that was still not a guarantee her life would be prolonged in a meaningful way. She chose to end her life before the medical bills started pouring in, before her health degraded so much that she could possibly become immobile or lose her speech. For Brittany, this wasn't a cry for help. This was a means to a certain and painful, expensive, certain end. And yeah, many can argue that we ALL die. Obviously, but those of us healthy enough to live life to the natural end still have some fight left.
 
No. I have been there. And i get so angry when people say its selffish.

To think you are that alone, no one gives a shit, no one will notice you are gone. What is the point in being alive, got nothing to live for. Etc.

People who think its selffish have never been through that stage of depression.
 
Suicide, in my opinion, isn't selfish. It’s sad, yes, but not selfish. It’s selfish of those left behind to try to make light of the deceased’s situation. Suicide is not a selfish act. It’s not for attention. It’s for relief. As sad as that sounds, it is. Someone who commits suicide, who goes all the way for an act that takes it all away, is looking for a way to feel better.

At the point when someone is suicidal, they aren't thinking about other people, but they aren't thinking about themselves either. (Which, by definition, rules out their SELFishness.) They are lost, confused, and consumed by a dark feeling that takes away their ability to truly think about the world around them. They get swept up in a bad place and, sometimes, unfortunately, can't find their way out.

That's my two cents worth.
 
I've attempted at least five different times.

I now see it as being selfish as even though the girl I was dating caused me to end up almost commiting, my family and friends would find it very selfish. People only have one life and make it the way they want it to be. Being with the wrong people, having the wrong friends, etc always leaves people feeling so many ways but we just have to move on.
 
seasidemike said:
I think it is a final act of desperation.
Oh my God.
I almost cannot believe I am about to agree with seasidemike on something. :P

No, suicide is not a selfish act and I believe that anyone who dares say it is, is the selfish one themselves. Though, unknowingly because generally they are saying so from a position of grief and/or misunderstanding.
People who are suicidal do not want to die, though they feel there is no other options.

I know three people who have taken their lives, all males. One from guilt (he was driving on drugs and crashed his car killing his best friend mere months earlier.), one attributed to their gambling addiction and one from general depressio (we believe.)

Such a tough thing to deal with. Something the world'd be better off without.
 
identityissues8 said:
seasidemike said:
I think it is a final act of desperation.
Oh my God.
I almost cannot believe I am about to agree with seasidemike on something. :P


Such a tough thing to deal with. Something the world'd be better off without.
Glad to see that you are beginning to see the light :)
 
I look at it from two sides myself to be honest. It can be seen as a selfish act because of who you are leaving behind and what it may do to them as a whole once you are gone however if someone has felt like there was no option other than suicide then people may need to take a look at why they did what they did.

It's awful to know that anyone would ever consider this however many do and there are always reasons behind it some of which many feel they can never come away from. :(
 
Ofcourse it's a selfish act, you're letting your family & friends down. And I believe god created you, and only he shall decide your death.
 
Suicide is never a way to go. Even if you're feeling like the lowest person in the world, you can always bounce back and find a good place.
 
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