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Ariz. execution a "bollocks-upped situation"

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U.S. Sen. John McCain says the execution of an Arizona inmate that lasted two hours was torture.

The Republican who represents the conservative state told Politico that he supports capital punishment for certain crimes but felt Wednesday's execution of Joseph Rudolph Wood was a "bollocks-upped situation."

It took Wood nearly two hours to die after he received a lethal injection with a combination of the sedative midazolam and the painkiller hydromorphone.

He spent more than 90 minutes gasping for air every five to 12 seconds before he finally stopped breathing.

The execution brought new attention to the death penalty debate in the U.S. as opponents said it was proof that lethal injection is cruel and unusual punishment.

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Do you think that lethal injection is cruel and unusual punishment?
 
No I believe it's far to kind of treatment we give them. But if he suffered it's only our own scared government worried about public opinion that he did. It could have been over in seconds with a bullet or a rope around the neck. Or the same stuff they use to put down animals that are sick.
 
If I recall correctly, he was a multiple murderer. Should we really care about the manner in which someone with no respect for life ends theirs?
 
Smooth said:
Jazzy said:
Do you think that lethal injection is cruel and unusual punishment?

Nope. I think sometimes something goes wrong in one way or another and the inmates death isn't as swift as some would like it to be. BIG DEAL. They're being put to death for a reason; what most of these inmates have done to others is what's cruel and unusual.

When I was in animal medicine, we had a Chow-Chow brought in to be put to sleep. It had attacked several people and it was ordered by a judge that this dog was to be destroyed.
Now, I've assisted in hundreds of euthanasia procedures, and it is a simple injection into the large vein that runs down the front leg of all dogs. It is basically an overdose of anesthetic, and it does what it is meant to do before the syringe is emptied into the vein. Up until this Chow came in. We'd worked with the dog before as a regular patient and we knew how aggressive and mean he was.

I was the tech called in to assist the doctor and hold off the vein. The injection went smoothly, no blown veins like sometimes happens, the Chow received the proper dose of "blue juice" as we called it that was appropriate for an animal of his size.

And he got up and went for the doctor's throat.

I got control of him again, and doc injected the dog in the other leg. Again, the full dose went into the dog's bloodstream. And he got up again.

3 more injections were given and the dog would not go down. He got sleepy and droopy, but he sure wasn't dead. Finally, we got the largest syringe we had, and injected the dog straight into its heart, which finally put him down.

If that can happen to a dog, why couldn't the same thing happen to a person? It is basically the same procedure, and, as I saw that day, it isn't necessarily 100% foolproof. But we got the dog put down. I didn't see any suffering from the animal, I saw him try to attack other people after he'd had several doses of the medication. It just took way more than was usual to get him put down.

Same should go for people. If the first time doesn't put the person down, hit them again. And keep on injecting them until they are dead.
Seems fairly simple to me.

This was good info.

We had a cat in the family and it had kidney problems which I invested my fair share of money and time into getting the cat healed. But the cat never got better so I decided to end the agony the cat was in and insisted if I am going to have it killed I will be there holding the little guy when its done. They did the procedure just like you described and he was gone before the needle was emptied.
 
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Princess Alexandros XVII said:
If I recall correctly, he was a multiple murderer. Should we really care about the manner in which someone with no respect for life ends theirs?

Yes because it highlights what kind of people we are. If we are to hold the moral superiority then it would do us good to act like we are morally superior otherwise we will be seen as no less of a savage then the criminals in our justice system.

This is why we treat the animals we kill for food humanely much like how we treat criminals even ones on death row. Otherwise the line between just and unjust becomes blurry and eventually disappears. That is why it matters how we act in situations like this one.
 
Bluezone777 said:
Princess Alexandros XVII said:
If I recall correctly, he was a multiple murderer. Should we really care about the manner in which someone with no respect for life ends theirs?

Yes because it highlights what kind of people we are. If we are to hold the moral superiority then it would do us good to act like we are morally superior otherwise we will be seen as no less of a savage then the criminals in our justice system.

Sounds good to me to be looked upon as the savage! Then the REAL people who cause misery might think twice and realize they are going to suffer like there victims
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Bluezone777 said:
Princess Alexandros XVII said:
If I recall correctly, he was a multiple murderer. Should we really care about the manner in which someone with no respect for life ends theirs?

Yes because it highlights what kind of people we are. If we are to hold the moral superiority then it would do us good to act like we are morally superior otherwise we will be seen as no less of a savage then the criminals in our justice system.

Sounds good to me to be looked upon as the savage! Then the REAL people who cause misery might think twice and realize they are going to suffer like there victims
Why condemn a man for a savage act with a savage act of your own as punishment? All that looks like is you killing your own kind. Besides it doesn't deter crime because if it did then there would be no crime.
 
Bluezone777 said:
Why condemn a man for a savage act with a savage act of your own as punishment?

This man murdered several people. What do you think his punishment should have been?
 
Jazzy said:
This man murdered several people. What do you think his punishment should have been?[/font][/size]

VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE
US SENATE FOR ARIZONA
Joseph Rudolph Wood

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Unseat the Liberal Collaborationist
John McCain!​
 
Bluezone777 said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Bluezone777 said:
Princess Alexandros XVII said:
If I recall correctly, he was a multiple murderer. Should we really care about the manner in which someone with no respect for life ends theirs?

Yes because it highlights what kind of people we are. If we are to hold the moral superiority then it would do us good to act like we are morally superior otherwise we will be seen as no less of a savage then the criminals in our justice system.

Sounds good to me to be looked upon as the savage! Then the REAL people who cause misery might think twice and realize they are going to suffer like there victims
Why condemn a man for a savage act with a savage act of your own as punishment?

It feels good and Its the least we can do to a person who has ruined so many lives.

All that looks like is you killing your own kind.
My own kind?
Besides it doesn't deter crime because if it did then there would be no crime.
But the death penalty does deter crime. This will just show one way or another you will die no matter what it takes if you choosemto hurt others.
 
im just impressed that an american used the word bollocks :P


as for the murderer.........he didnt think about the suffering of his victims, why should we care about his?
 
beowulf said:
im just impressed that an american used the word bollocks :P


as for the murderer.........he didnt think about the suffering of his victims, why should we care about his?


Exactly!


And for everyone trying to figure out what I wrote above my apologies. It came out all funky when I did it on my cell phone.
 

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