Florida Woman Jokingly Slaps Man..Man Fatally Shoots Woman In Head

[Dee]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

Sure if any of that was true. Big difference between being charged and convicted. And no it was not bogus he was in danger for his life

how?

go ahead and keep making yourself look like a fool... (;

Your version of fool I am proud to keep doing.

Zimmerman was out of shape against a stronger and in better shape opponent.

Zimmerman was cold cocked.

Zimmerman was on his back while being punched in the face and having his head smashed into the concrete sidewalk.

If thats not a life threatening situation please tell me when it gets to that point.

Anyone who is on there back with someone on top of them should use deadly force.

How was this situation at all, in any way, like George Zimmerman's, though? Were you there? Did you witness the woman cold cocking the guy with a weapon? Was she behind him? How hard did she slap him? How big is he in comparison to her? Was she stronger or of equal strength? What is your definition of a life-threatening situation? Was she trained in any deadly art where she could easily use her body as a weapon to kill this man? Is a hand--her hand in particular--as deadly a weapon as his loaded gun was?

SMH

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

Sure if any of that was true. Big difference between being charged and convicted. And no it was not bogus he was in danger for his life

how?

go ahead and keep making yourself look like a fool... (;

Your version of fool I am proud to keep doing.

Zimmerman was out of shape against a stronger and in better shape opponent.

Zimmerman was cold cocked.

Zimmerman was on his back while being punched in the face and having his head smashed into the concrete sidewalk.

If thats not a life threatening situation please tell me when it gets to that point.

Anyone who is on there back with someone on top of them should use deadly force.

How was this situation at all, in any way, like George Zimmerman's, though? Were you there? Did you witness the woman cold cocking the guy with a weapon? Was she behind him? How hard did she slap him? How big is he in comparison to her? Was she stronger or of equal strength? What is your definition of a life-threatening situation? Was she trained in any deadly art where she could easily use her body as a weapon to kill this man? Is a hand--her hand in particular--as deadly a weapon as his loaded gun was?

SMH

I never compared it any way to the woman. The subject just got off topic as it does many times when me and justice have our exchange's.

 

[Dee]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

Sure if any of that was true. Big difference between being charged and convicted. And no it was not bogus he was in danger for his life

how?

go ahead and keep making yourself look like a fool... (;

Your version of fool I am proud to keep doing.

Zimmerman was out of shape against a stronger and in better shape opponent.

Zimmerman was cold cocked.

Zimmerman was on his back while being punched in the face and having his head smashed into the concrete sidewalk.

If thats not a life threatening situation please tell me when it gets to that point.

Anyone who is on there back with someone on top of them should use deadly force.

How was this situation at all, in any way, like George Zimmerman's, though? Were you there? Did you witness the woman cold cocking the guy with a weapon? Was she behind him? How hard did she slap him? How big is he in comparison to her? Was she stronger or of equal strength? What is your definition of a life-threatening situation? Was she trained in any deadly art where she could easily use her body as a weapon to kill this man? Is a hand--her hand in particular--as deadly a weapon as his loaded gun was?

SMH

I never compared it any way to the woman. The subject just got off topic as it does many times when me and justice have our exchange's.

Then why use that example at all? It seems pointless that you'd bring it up. The fact of the matter was that excessive deadly force was used when it was unnecessary and a woman is now dead because of it, and I hope they take that man off the streets.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

Sure if any of that was true. Big difference between being charged and convicted. And no it was not bogus he was in danger for his life

how?

go ahead and keep making yourself look like a fool... (;

Your version of fool I am proud to keep doing.

Zimmerman was out of shape against a stronger and in better shape opponent.

Zimmerman was cold cocked.

Zimmerman was on his back while being punched in the face and having his head smashed into the concrete sidewalk.

If thats not a life threatening situation please tell me when it gets to that point.

Anyone who is on there back with someone on top of them should use deadly force.

How was this situation at all, in any way, like George Zimmerman's, though? Were you there? Did you witness the woman cold cocking the guy with a weapon? Was she behind him? How hard did she slap him? How big is he in comparison to her? Was she stronger or of equal strength? What is your definition of a life-threatening situation? Was she trained in any deadly art where she could easily use her body as a weapon to kill this man? Is a hand--her hand in particular--as deadly a weapon as his loaded gun was?

SMH

I never compared it any way to the woman. The subject just got off topic as it does many times when me and justice have our exchange's.

Then why use that example at all? It seems pointless that you'd bring it up. The fact of the matter was that excessive deadly force was used when it was unnecessary and a woman is now dead because of it, and I hope they take that man off the streets.

Bring what up I am confused. I never started the Zimmerman conversation if thats what you are talking about bringing up. But if something is started I do not agree with I am going to respond.

 

[Dee]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

Sure if any of that was true. Big difference between being charged and convicted. And no it was not bogus he was in danger for his life

how?

go ahead and keep making yourself look like a fool... (;

Your version of fool I am proud to keep doing.

Zimmerman was out of shape against a stronger and in better shape opponent.

Zimmerman was cold cocked.

Zimmerman was on his back while being punched in the face and having his head smashed into the concrete sidewalk.

If thats not a life threatening situation please tell me when it gets to that point.

Anyone who is on there back with someone on top of them should use deadly force.

How was this situation at all, in any way, like George Zimmerman's, though? Were you there? Did you witness the woman cold cocking the guy with a weapon? Was she behind him? How hard did she slap him? How big is he in comparison to her? Was she stronger or of equal strength? What is your definition of a life-threatening situation? Was she trained in any deadly art where she could easily use her body as a weapon to kill this man? Is a hand--her hand in particular--as deadly a weapon as his loaded gun was?

SMH

I never compared it any way to the woman. The subject just got off topic as it does many times when me and justice have our exchange's.

Then why use that example at all? It seems pointless that you'd bring it up. The fact of the matter was that excessive deadly force was used when it was unnecessary and a woman is now dead because of it, and I hope they take that man off the streets.

Bring what up I am confused. I never started the Zimmerman conversation if thats what you are talking about bringing up. But if something is started I do not agree with I am going to respond.

That's not the point. I understand and totally agree that you should respond if you don't agree, but to choose an example like the Zimmerman case when it had absolutely nothing to do with this case and since it was quite vastly different from what happened here, to me, seemed like an extreme example to respond with. Buuuuut then again, I'm merely stating my opinion on something I don't agree with. xD

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

Sure if any of that was true. Big difference between being charged and convicted. And no it was not bogus he was in danger for his life

how?

go ahead and keep making yourself look like a fool... (;

Your version of fool I am proud to keep doing.

Zimmerman was out of shape against a stronger and in better shape opponent.

Zimmerman was cold cocked.

Zimmerman was on his back while being punched in the face and having his head smashed into the concrete sidewalk.

If thats not a life threatening situation please tell me when it gets to that point.

Anyone who is on there back with someone on top of them should use deadly force.

How was this situation at all, in any way, like George Zimmerman's, though? Were you there? Did you witness the woman cold cocking the guy with a weapon? Was she behind him? How hard did she slap him? How big is he in comparison to her? Was she stronger or of equal strength? What is your definition of a life-threatening situation? Was she trained in any deadly art where she could easily use her body as a weapon to kill this man? Is a hand--her hand in particular--as deadly a weapon as his loaded gun was?

SMH

I never compared it any way to the woman. The subject just got off topic as it does many times when me and justice have our exchange's.

Then why use that example at all? It seems pointless that you'd bring it up. The fact of the matter was that excessive deadly force was used when it was unnecessary and a woman is now dead because of it, and I hope they take that man off the streets.

Bring what up I am confused. I never started the Zimmerman conversation if thats what you are talking about bringing up. But if something is started I do not agree with I am going to respond.

That's not the point. I understand and totally agree that you should respond if you don't agree, but to choose an example like the Zimmerman case when it had absolutely nothing to do with this case and since it was quite vastly different from what happened here, to me, seemed like an extreme example to respond with. Buuuuut then again, I'm merely stating my opinion on something I don't agree with. xD

Sigh! As I stated I never brought up the Zimmerman thing.

 

[Dee]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

Sure if any of that was true. Big difference between being charged and convicted. And no it was not bogus he was in danger for his life

how?

go ahead and keep making yourself look like a fool... (;

Your version of fool I am proud to keep doing.

Zimmerman was out of shape against a stronger and in better shape opponent.

Zimmerman was cold cocked.

Zimmerman was on his back while being punched in the face and having his head smashed into the concrete sidewalk.

If thats not a life threatening situation please tell me when it gets to that point.

Anyone who is on there back with someone on top of them should use deadly force.

How was this situation at all, in any way, like George Zimmerman's, though? Were you there? Did you witness the woman cold cocking the guy with a weapon? Was she behind him? How hard did she slap him? How big is he in comparison to her? Was she stronger or of equal strength? What is your definition of a life-threatening situation? Was she trained in any deadly art where she could easily use her body as a weapon to kill this man? Is a hand--her hand in particular--as deadly a weapon as his loaded gun was?

SMH

I never compared it any way to the woman. The subject just got off topic as it does many times when me and justice have our exchange's.

Then why use that example at all? It seems pointless that you'd bring it up. The fact of the matter was that excessive deadly force was used when it was unnecessary and a woman is now dead because of it, and I hope they take that man off the streets.

Bring what up I am confused. I never started the Zimmerman conversation if thats what you are talking about bringing up. But if something is started I do not agree with I am going to respond.

That's not the point. I understand and totally agree that you should respond if you don't agree, but to choose an example like the Zimmerman case when it had absolutely nothing to do with this case and since it was quite vastly different from what happened here, to me, seemed like an extreme example to respond with. Buuuuut then again, I'm merely stating my opinion on something I don't agree with. xD

Sigh! As I stated I never brought up the Zimmerman thing.

Sorry! Those damn quote things are hard to follow when theyre bunched together like 10 at a time. My bad. I'll look like an ass! xD Let's just redirect that to the person who brought it up because that was the dumbest example... SMH

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

Sure if any of that was true. Big difference between being charged and convicted. And no it was not bogus he was in danger for his life

how?

go ahead and keep making yourself look like a fool... (;

Your version of fool I am proud to keep doing.

Zimmerman was out of shape against a stronger and in better shape opponent.

Zimmerman was cold cocked.

Zimmerman was on his back while being punched in the face and having his head smashed into the concrete sidewalk.

If thats not a life threatening situation please tell me when it gets to that point.

Anyone who is on there back with someone on top of them should use deadly force.

How was this situation at all, in any way, like George Zimmerman's, though? Were you there? Did you witness the woman cold cocking the guy with a weapon? Was she behind him? How hard did she slap him? How big is he in comparison to her? Was she stronger or of equal strength? What is your definition of a life-threatening situation? Was she trained in any deadly art where she could easily use her body as a weapon to kill this man? Is a hand--her hand in particular--as deadly a weapon as his loaded gun was?

SMH

I never compared it any way to the woman. The subject just got off topic as it does many times when me and justice have our exchange's.

Then why use that example at all? It seems pointless that you'd bring it up. The fact of the matter was that excessive deadly force was used when it was unnecessary and a woman is now dead because of it, and I hope they take that man off the streets.

Bring what up I am confused. I never started the Zimmerman conversation if thats what you are talking about bringing up. But if something is started I do not agree with I am going to respond.

That's not the point. I understand and totally agree that you should respond if you don't agree, but to choose an example like the Zimmerman case when it had absolutely nothing to do with this case and since it was quite vastly different from what happened here, to me, seemed like an extreme example to respond with. Buuuuut then again, I'm merely stating my opinion on something I don't agree with. xD

Sigh! As I stated I never brought up the Zimmerman thing.

Sorry! Those damn quote things are hard to follow when theyre bunched together like 10 at a time. My bad. I'll look like an ass! xD Let's just redirect that to the person who brought it up because that was the dumbest example... SMH

No problem.

 

[Bluezone777]

So from what I just read, you have a guy "playing" with a firearm while getting drunk on booze who shoots someone in the head over a slap to the face with said gun then runs off which illustrates their knowledge that they did something wrong. I say he should be put away for murder 2. Seems like a clear cut case to me but those lawyers will pull all sorts of tricks and games to make things far more difficult then they need to be.

A firearm is not a toy and is not something you "play" with nor is it something you should find in your hands while getting drunk. His actions ultimately brought him to where he is today and that woman he killed has nothing to do with it as he would have just did it to someone else if that woman hadn't ended up as the victim of his stupidity.

 

[+paradox]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

Sure if any of that was true. Big difference between being charged and convicted. And no it was not bogus he was in danger for his life

how?

go ahead and keep making yourself look like a fool... (;

Your version of fool I am proud to keep doing.
my apologies...

Zimmerman was out of shape against a stronger and in better shape opponent.
how do you know this? it's proven that zimmerman weighed way more than the kid... and i thought zimmerman took self defense classes as he was a wannabe cop?

Zimmerman was cold cocked.
and how do you know this? by on what zimmerman says? i guess everything he says has to be true and correct? and even if zimmerman did get punched in the face, maybe he deserved it? by following this kid, when zimmerman confronted him, the kid was probably scared and he had the right to be scared as he didn't look like a cop nor announced himself as a cop, therefor the kid might thought he was in some sort of danger and that the danger kept coming closer at him...

Zimmerman was on his back while being punched in the face and having his head smashed into the concrete sidewalk.
and how do you know this? because that's what you're told what happened? by whom? how do you know zimmerman didn't do that to the kid?

If thats not a life threatening situation please tell me when it gets to that point.
when a wannabe cop starts to follow and stalk a kid for no reason and illegally, may i add... then confronting the kid after the kid noticed a weird guy stalking him and tried to get away from the creep... then he defended himself which is completely legal to do if you're scared for your life when zimmerman was the aggressor... so the man broke the law and became the aggressor of the situation and created the situation... therefor is guilty of at least manslaughter, if not murder...

Anyone who is on there back with someone on top of them should use deadly force.
for a fight? how do you know if both parties would still be alive if zimmerman never had or pulled out his gun? or, maybe never broke the law and created the situation in the first place?

my apologies, i was talking about the guy that shot the girl that slapped him...

as for zimmerman's case, i'll reply to each of what you said above in red...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

Sure if any of that was true. Big difference between being charged and convicted. And no it was not bogus he was in danger for his life

how?

go ahead and keep making yourself look like a fool... (;

Your version of fool I am proud to keep doing.
my apologies...

Its forgotten.

Zimmerman was out of shape against a stronger and in better shape opponent.
how do you know this? it's proven that zimmerman weighed way more than the kid... and i thought zimmerman took self defense classes as he was a wannabe cop?

They had his trainers talk about his abilities and it was not kind.

Zimmerman was cold cocked.
and how do you know this? by on what zimmerman says? i guess everything he says has to be true and correct? and even if zimmerman did get punched in the face, maybe he deserved it? by following this kid, when zimmerman confronted him, the kid was probably scared and he had the right to be scared as he didn't look like a cop nor announced himself as a cop, therefor the kid might thought he was in some sort of danger and that the danger kept coming closer at him...

By what he said and on how it was told leading up to that punch. And what was told by the people who examined and the photos shown. He probably did deserve it but it went much further then that. And scared kids do not turn around and decide to fight some guy following him. They run away.

Zimmerman was on his back while being punched in the face and having his head smashed into the concrete sidewalk.
and how do you know this? because that's what you're told what happened? by whom? how do you know zimmerman didn't do that to the kid?

Again everything that was shown from the photos, the people who examined him, the witnesses, the shape he was in and the violent tendencies and the shape of the kid.

If thats not a life threatening situation please tell me when it gets to that point.
when a wannabe cop starts to follow and stalk a kid for no reason and illegally, may i add... then confronting the kid after the kid noticed a weird guy stalking him and tried to get away from the creep... then he defended himself which is completely legal to do if you're scared for your life when zimmerman was the aggressor... so the man broke the law and became the aggressor of the situation and created the situation... therefor is guilty of at least manslaughter, if not murder...

Nothing illegal about following a person. Specially in a private community he lived in.

Anyone who is on there back with someone on top of them should use deadly force.
for a fight? how do you know if both parties would still be alive if zimmerman never had or pulled out his gun? or, maybe never broke the law and created the situation in the first place?

my apologies, i was talking about the guy that shot the girl that slapped him...

as for zimmerman's case, i'll reply to each of what you said above in red...

This is long done case so I have no desire about it anymore so I will let you get the last word on this.

 

[+paradox]

haha, come on TL, stalking is not a crime anymore, since when?

http://www.flsenate.gov/laws/statutes/2011/784.048

784.048 Stalking; definitions; penalties.—
(1) As used in this section, the term:
(a) “Harass” means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that causes substantial emotional distress in such person and serves no legitimate purpose.

(2) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(3) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person, and makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in reasonable fear of death or bodily injury of the person, or the person’s child, sibling, spouse, parent, or dependent, commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.


zimmerman broke the law and was the aggressor, end of story and case closed...