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Has science just disproved God?

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Richard Dawkins’ site suggests that some recent MIT research is pretty much the last nail in God’s coffin.

Dawkins isn’t a fan of God of course – but Jeremy England’s research has reignited debates over the existence of a Creator, as it takes Darwin’s idea of evolution, and runs with it.

His theory is based on thermodynamics – and in particular, the idea that if you shine a light on something for long enough, it will restructure itself to ‘dissipate’ more heat.

Therefore, life itself evolves from non-living matter naturally – without requiring some old guy with a beard to light the fuse.

England says, ‘You start with a random clump of atoms, and if you shine light on it for long enough, it should not be so surprising that you get a plant.

Under certain conditions, matter inexorably acquires the key physical attribute associated with life.

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Has the idea of God just taken a deathblow from its old enemy, science?
 
DrLeftover said:
So, if you shine light on mud long enough, you get an oak tree.

OK. Good.

Where did the Light and the Mud come from?

Well, surely there is one and only one possible and reasonable answer, and that is that an all powerful being who rules over all the universes with a mighty hand in his pearly white kingdom has to have made all that light and mud.  No question about it! 
 
If you define GOD as The Creator being the "Uncaused First Cause" then this idea of a well lit slime that turns into a corn field is meaningless.

Furthermore, I want to see the experiment that sprouts anything living from an otherwise sterile pan of goop in a controlled environment under direct light for however long their light bulb lasts.
 
DrLeftover said:
If you define GOD as The Creator being the "Uncaused First Cause" then this idea of a well lit slime that turns into a corn field is meaningless.

Furthermore, I want to see the experiment that sprouts anything living from an otherwise sterile pan of goop in a controlled environment under direct light for however long their light bulb lasts.

It's the most powerful light bulb ever.  God invented it.
 
It's like the case the other day, the media was chirping about how this guy was dead and he was brought back to report that he "didn't see anything" so this disproves all religion.

Here's one of the stories.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/man-who-claims-died-twice-5248308

Time out.

According to the medical records, he was 'dead' for "a couple of minutes" or so.

His brain was still functioning. He wasn't deceased, HE was unconscious. You're not DEAD dead until your brain cells stop working, unless, of course, you're in Congress.

The case proves NOTHING.

Kinda like the experiment with the mud.
 
DrLeftover said:
It's like the case the other day, the media was chirping about how this guy was dead and he was brought back to report that he "didn't see anything" so this disproves all religion.

Here's one of the stories.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/man-who-claims-died-twice-5248308

Time out.

According to the medical records, he was 'dead' for "a couple of minutes" or so.

His brain was still functioning. He wasn't deceased, HE was unconscious. You're not DEAD dead until your brain cells stop working, unless, of course, you're in Congress.

The case proves NOTHING.

Kinda like the experiment with the mud.

All that super special God mud that's special 'cause God created it in his image, amirite?
 
Well, this is interesting. I wouldn't say that God is entirely disproven now, but its certainly taken a blow.
 
DrLeftover said:
I think Dawkins almost disproved his own point by how vehemently he dismissed all religious ideals as a shared hallucination.

His reaction could be seen as one of fear.

Oh you can say that again.
I read 'The God Delusion' before my conversion to Islam. Talk about a 400-page whinge...

I must read it again though.
 
Jazzy said:
Has the idea of God just taken a deathblow from its old enemy, science?

Science and religion aren't old enemies, they are old buds. 




Any who, Dawkins can never disprove God because he is looking from an empirical view when God is essentially a concept. 
 
OK...

Light plus mud multiplied by time equals

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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

Romans 1 :20 (NIV)
 
i'm going to have to disagree that this disproves god and science will never disprove god because it can't...
 
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