Hunting & Fishing - Right or wrong?

[Kaczynski]

I'm not a pacifist or too stuck on animal rights, but hunting for sport rather than survival seems overly cruel. If you're a sadist in need of control, become a serial killer instead. No I'm kidding.

 

[dynastygal]

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[dynastygal]

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[dynastygal]

I'm pretty good with a Mosin Nagant in my hands. Yes I'm a hunter, and yes, I find it a pretty enjoyable pass time.



Many animals hunt one another, so I don't see why I can't join in the game.

For survival. You're not.

 

[Princess]

[quote name='http://offtopix.com/viewtopic.php?p=4599#p4599']I'm pretty good with a Mosin Nagant in my hands. Yes I'm a hunter, and yes, I find it a pretty enjoyable pass time.



Many animals hunt one another, so I don't see why I can't join in the game.

For survival. You're not.[/quote]

How do you know?

 

[dynastygal]

What do you mean how do I know?



He's posting on the internet, right? He's clearly from a country that has an abundance of non animal foodstuffs. There is no need for him to hunt.



It's common knowledge most humans in this world don't need to hunt for survival. Hence why it's known as a 'bloodsport'...key word being sport.

 

[Princess]

Bloodsport is any sport that involves the killing of an animal.

Hunting for food has never fallen into that catagory. By anyone I know of but you. It involves things such as cockfighting or fox hunting. Even though fox hunting is called hunting--it isn't per se. It is shooting for no reason. You fail to see the difference. And, because you have no experience in this matter, you never will see the difference.

I know lots of people that hunt to supply their families with food. They are also involved in animal management. It's a bit more involved than just 'killing for sport'

 

[dynastygal]

Nah, I am experienced. Experienced enough to know that 'hunting for food' is just a lame-o excuse, and you can't manage populations by killing their predators and then killing them. That's not how conservation works.



You can claim it's for food all you want, but at the end of the day, it's still a sport, still is a blood sport, and saying they're doing it for survival is like saying I should hunt cats to eat for survival, when clearly, I don't need to. Nobody but very indigenous tribes need to hunt for food, if you don't realise that, you have a lot to learn about the world. By the way, there is no difference, food is not a valid reason when you have access to an abundance of other non cruel foodstuffs. Clearly you fail to see the point.

 

[Nuke]

Then you can still hunt to get CHEAP food

 

[Nebulous]

*Split this topic off a couple others*



There is nothing wrong with hunting. Every time someone in my family goes hunting or fishing, they usually come back with loads of meat for everyone. In todays failing economy where money is stretched very thin, I wont object to taking some free food.

Also people tend to take a sense of pride in it. Its rewarding to know that you, yourself went out and hunted and gathered for your family. Which is one of a human's natural basic instincts.

 

[Princess]

Yep. That's my thinking on it Nebulous. Also, venison is lower in cholesterol than beef. But if you were a rabid vegetarian--there would be no excuse for hunting or fishing at all.

 

[Corpora]

By claiming that hunting is immoral, you are claiming that all animals, including humans, are inherently immoral. The deer hunts the plant the same way the bear hunts the deer.

 

[Tales]

Depends on what species you are hunting.

 

[Kasynlie]

I agree with OP. I dont have a problem with hunthing and killing for survival, but for fun, I'm not a supporter.

 

[Discord]

I don't see anything wrong with hunting. Just because I can go to Kroger and buy meat shouldn't mean that I can't go and kill my own.

 

[Discord]

Why.....oh WHY did this topic have to come up!??



I hunt and I am not about to try to justify my rights to those who think hunting is cruel. To NOT hunt would be more cruel and I like my meat without growth hormones or any of the other shit they put into meat.



Just as one statistic in how much research I have done into the pro's and con's of hunting I learned that in America, there are 4,000 deer/auto accidents a DAY. Yes that says FOUR THOUSAND A DAY. If all hunting was banned that number would quadruple in 2 seasons. So those who don't think hunting is acceptable I assume you like the sight and smell of raodkill. The roadkill being huge deer carcasses strewn about bloating and swelling up in the sun.

Not to mention the damages to your car, your passengers, and yourself.

 

[xneseyx]

What do you mean how do I know?



He's posting on the internet, right? He's clearly from a country that has an abundance of non animal foodstuffs. There is no need for him to hunt.



It's common knowledge most humans in this world don't need to hunt for survival. Hence why it's known as a 'bloodsport'...key word being sport.

I hunt myself. it is fun, being able to walk through the bushes and sneak up on the deer and then bring it down. it's basic human instincts, for lack of a better word. I do not poach animals: I do not kill the bucks, cut off the antlers, and leave the meat behind. it is the poachers who should be getting this talk. and we do eat the meat, every scrap that is edible. we try to be as good to the environment as we can.

 

[sbfc]

Don't hunt myself though I don't really have a problem with people that do hunt... as for fishing, I don't see how it's wrong lol.

 

[Skillet]

Overfishing can be a problem, but it is a good food source. I suppose that is not hunting and fishing in the perspective in the topic.



Personal hunting is fine, as long as the person isn;t just doing it for game. If they are going to actually use the animal, then so be it, if the animal isn't endangered.

 

[Skillet]

Well, it's not legal to hunt an animal that is on the Endangered Species list. That is a HUGE fine and possible jail time for that. As it should be.

Couldn't agree with you more. Unfortunately, some inequities still happen. Say native Canadians here. Their hunting season is year round, while other peoples' are limited to months outside of breeding. Obviously, I think the rule should be same to everyone.