Neurosurgeon claims to have visited the afterlife!

[wirelessguru1]

Dr. Eben Alexander has taught at Harvard Medical School and has earned a strong reputation as a neurosurgeon. And while Alexander says he's long called himself a Christian, he never held deeply religious beliefs or a pronounced faith in the afterlife...



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/heaven-real-says-neurosurgeon-claims-visited-afterlife-213527063.html

 

[TommyTooter]

neo! what it is, dude?



i saw that article but didn't read it. talk to us about it and convince me that i should read it.

 

[DrLeftover]

The physician is selling a book.

 

[wirelessguru1]

The physician is selling a book.

So!?

 

[DrLeftover]

He has a commercial interest in promoting his experience. So his motives for the more spectacular details of the event is suspect going in.

 

[wirelessguru1]

He has a commercial interest in promoting his experience. So his motives for the more spectacular details of the event is suspect going in.

Really!? So in your mind program you think that the Neurosurgeon is lying about his experience!?

 

[DrLeftover]

Did I say he was lying like he was running for office?



I believe that he believes he had the experience he is relating.



I also believe he is exaggerating the most spectacular parts of it, the beautiful woman and the glowing beings for example, to sell books and get on the talk shows.

 

[wirelessguru1]

Did I say he was lying like he was running for office?

No but you implied!

I believe that he believes he had the experience he is relating.

Duh! Otherwise why would he be talking and writing about it!?

I also believe he is exaggerating the most spectacular parts of it, the beautiful woman and the glowing beings for example, to sell books and get on the talk shows.

So do you suggest that he should instead say: the ugly woman and the dark beings!? LOL!!!

 

[DrLeftover]

I didn't imply anything, nor am I suggesting he do anything.



I simply made the statement that the gentleman is selling a book and has a business interest in the story, therefore, he has a reason to 'enhance it' to make it more viable commercially. Otherwise, he'd be writing something called 'fiction'. But I doubt if you are familiar with that.



You asked for the explanation. I gave it.



What you do with said explanation is entirely up to you.

 

[wirelessguru1]

I simply made the statement that the gentleman is selling a book and has a business interest in the story, therefore, he has a reason to 'enhance it' to make it more viable commercially. Otherwise, he'd be writing something called 'fiction'. But I doubt if you are familiar with that.

So does this mean that you consider someone's personal experience as fiction!?

 

[DrLeftover]

No. Merely subjective truth, which, in reality, is all there actually is.

 

[wirelessguru1]

No. Merely subjective truth, which, in reality, is all there actually is.

Really!? Like in what form of reality is that anyway!?



Also do you know what reality really is?

 

[Jazzy]

He's going to sell a lot of books not because it has or hasn't happened to him. It's because of the loss that the family feels when a loved one dies. They want to believe that their loved one is in a better place now. Nothing convinces me more than this comment left on the article link:

I hope what he says is true. It would give me some comfort knowing my wife's death from cancer led her to better world. She was always the more dedicated Catholic and I the uncertain Lutheran. She used to say...no more chemo no more pain in the next life. I guess the pain just remains with those who are left behind. I miss you baby!

 

[Evil Eye]

He had a life changing experience and hasn't gone mad. Good for him.

Also do you know what reality really is?

No one does, that's the entire point of subjective reality.

You'd be a fool to think he's got anything else on his mind.

Tss. Fame. Also, relating to aforementioned subjective truth, he could believe this is important for people to know. (But not too important because he isn't giving this away for free

)

 

[wirelessguru1]

No one does, that's the entire point of subjective reality.

No one, really! LOL!!!



Look, reality on any form is just code (data) in execution...

Tss. Fame. Also, relating to aforementioned subjective truth, he could believe this is important for people to know. (But not too important because he isn't giving this away for free

)

Give what away for free!? Do you mean his book!?

Look, even if he gave his book away for free many would still not believe him...since they (the non-believers) did not experience what he did...

+1 (Neo)

 

[wirelessguru1]

They want to believe that their loved one is in a better place now.

Well, for the people that want to believe that they are (or will be) in a worst place there is always, of course, hell...

In contrast the Neurosurgeon claims to have seen heaven...

 

[Evil Eye]

Look, reality on any form is just code (data) in execution...

Sure, but perception is limited at best. If I put you in a completely dark room, the rest of the world would still have light, you wouldn't be able to tell though. Also, people are always able to completely misinterpret things. That's just the thing, what they perceive to be real is but a pale reflection of actual reality (another example: you can't see UV), therefore their perception is subjective and their reality and truth is as well.

Give what away for free!? Do you mean his book!?

Yes and I know many people wouldn't believe him even if he did give it away for free, but it would help. You couldn't claim he did it for the money after all.

 

[wirelessguru1]

Sure, but perception is limited at best. If I put you in a completely dark room, the rest of the world would still have light, you wouldn't be able to tell though.

Well, only half of the world would still have light...

But of course perception is limited since personal reality is also limited...

Also, people are always able to completely misinterpret things. That's just the thing, what they perceive to be real is but a pale reflection of actual reality (another example: you can't see UV), therefore their perception is subjective and their reality and truth is as well.

Actual reality!?

LOL!!!



But of course perception is subjective since personal reality is also subjective...

Yes and I know many people wouldn't believe him even if he did give it away for free, but it would help. You couldn't claim he did it for the money after all.

Well, they would claim something else...



Either case, it seems to me that you are also still very much confused with regards to what reality really is...

 

[Evil Eye]

Well, only half of the world would still have light...

More I think, plenty of other light sources, but yeah.

Well, they would claim something else...

True, but as long as not all of them claim something else it would've helped.

Either case, it seems to me that you are also still very much confused with regards to what reality really is...

I choose to define reality as the place where I live, whether or not this place is anything like my perception of it is largely irrelevant. But by all means share your perception.

 

[DrLeftover]

Unless the board is going to open a Metaphysics thread.....