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should vaccinations be mandatory for children?

TRUE LIBERTY said:
The Supreme King said:
+Justice said:
The Supreme King said:
Unless there are special circumstances (i.e. the child's immune system is too weak for whatever reason) then yes. There is absolutely no reason the there to be measles outbreaks in the U.S. in 2015.


or, the real question is how and why the measles outbreak even happened in the first place...

and why and how it came back after all of these years...

i smell fish...

Measels came back (in the US) because people stopped giving their kids vaccines. 


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+Justice said:
Richard said:
Although people have a right to have or not to have their children vaccinated.

I think they should and I feel strongly about that, so they don't go out and make some one else's kids sick or get really sick them selves. But that's just my humble opinion.


nazi germany made their school children take "shots" too...

Nazi Germany's citizens also ate bread and drank water. Spooky, I know.

Measles came back because we ignore our borders and allow illegals to cross with diseases.

that's one theory...
 
I found this interesting and helpful. :)

Vaccines work really well. Of course, no medicine is perfect but most childhood vaccines produce immunity about 90 - 100% of the time.

What about the argument made by some people that vaccines don’t work that well . . . that diseases would be going away on their own because of better hygiene or sanitation, even if there were no vaccines?

That simply isn’t true. Certainly, better hygiene and sanitation can help prevent the spread of disease, but the germs that cause disease will still be around. As long as germs still exist, they are they will continue to make people sick.

All vaccines must be licensed (approved) by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) before being used in the United States. A vaccine must go through extensive testing to show that it works and that it is safe before the FDA will approve it. Among these tests are clinical trials, which compare groups of people who get a vaccine with groups of people who get a "control" (e.g, either a different vaccine or placebo).  A vaccine is approved only if FDA determines that it is safe and effective for its intended use.

If you look at the history of any vaccine-preventable disease, you will virtually always see that the number of cases of disease starts to drop when a vaccine is licensed. Here’s a chart showing this pattern for measles:

Chart displaying cases of measles reported from 1950-2007. Strong dropoff of cases occurs around the time the vaccine was licensed.

Measles vaccine was licensed in 1962, and as you can see, that’s when the number of cases started to decline. (Measles didn’t completely disappear after 1993; there have just been too few cases to show up on this graph.)

If the drop in disease were due to hygiene and sanitation, you would expect all diseases to start going away at about the same time. But if you were to look at the graph for polio, for example, you would see the number of cases start to drop around 1955 – the year the first polio vaccine was licensed. If you look at the graph for Hib, the number drops around 1990, for pneumococcal disease around 2000 — corresponding to the introduction of vaccines for those diseases.

Vaccines are the most effective tool we have to prevent infectious diseases. Learn more about how vaccines work in the next section: Prevention.

measles.jpg

http://www.vaccines.gov/basics/effectiveness/
 
just to let you know that this thread wasn't made for just one specific vaccine...
 
+Justice said:
just to let you know that this thread wasn't made for just one specific vaccine...

I know. I was just wanting to share. 

Sharing is caring!  :halo2:
 
Vaccinations are already mandatory over here. And free, which is good.
 
Yes, vaccinations should be mandatory. Vaccines work by protecting individuals, but their strength really lies in the ability to protect one’s neighbors. When there are not enough people within a community who are immunized, we are all at risk.

Personal and religious belief exemptions should be curtailed because some people, whether because of age or compromised immune systems, cannot receive vaccines. They depend on those around them to be protected.

Vaccines aren't the only situation in which we are asked to care about our neighbors. Following traffic laws, drug tests at work, paying taxes -- these may go against our beliefs and make us bristle, but we ascribe to them because without this shared responsibility, civil society doesn’t work.

Public health is no different.
 
Jazzy said:
Yes, vaccinations should be mandatory. Vaccines work by protecting individuals, but their strength really lies in the ability to protect one’s neighbors. When there are not enough people within a community who are immunized, we are all at risk.

Personal and religious belief exemptions should be curtailed because some people, whether because of age or compromised immune systems, cannot receive vaccines. They depend on those around them to be protected.

Vaccines aren't the only situation in which we are asked to care about our neighbors. Following traffic laws, drug tests at work, paying taxes -- these may go against our beliefs and make us bristle, but we ascribe to them because without this shared responsibility, civil society doesn’t work.

Public health is no different.

So you want to give government abslolute control for the power to put a foreign substance in you. No thank you I will take the risk for people to have a free choice to question what we are given.



If you don't like traffic laws you have the freedom to not drive.

If you don't want to be drug tested you have the freedom to not take the job or start your own business.

And many taxes are immoral just like Obamacare.
 
Jazzy said:
Yes, vaccinations should be mandatory. Vaccines work by protecting individuals, but their strength really lies in the ability to protect one’s neighbors. When there are not enough people within a community who are immunized, we are all at risk.

Personal and religious belief exemptions should be curtailed because some people, whether because of age or compromised immune systems, cannot receive vaccines. They depend on those around them to be protected.

Vaccines aren't the only situation in which we are asked to care about our neighbors. Following traffic laws, drug tests at work, paying taxes -- these may go against our beliefs and make us bristle, but we ascribe to them because without this shared responsibility, civil society doesn't work.

Public health is no different.

I agree. This is exactly how I feel about it. ;)
 

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