Toddler shoots himself dead

[Jazzy]

A two-year-old boy has died after he opened the glove compartment of his father’s car, took out a loaded gun he found there, and shot himself.

Florida police said that Kaleb Ahles turned the .380 calibre weapon towards his chest and pulled the trigger while his parents loaded the cars with boxes during a house move.

Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said, ‘He probably barely got the trigger pulled.’

Family members were all around the car helping the boy’s parents, Kevin Ahles and Christina Nigro, both 23, move house.

The parents said they heard a loud, ‘Pop’ and ran to the car.

Sheriff Gualtieri said the incident was a ‘tragic situation’.

He said the department would not press charges.

Tragic and senseless death. I'm wondering why the parents aren't being charged with at least negligent homicide.

Do you think the parents should have been charged?

 

[Dee]

A two-year-old boy has died after he opened the glove compartment of his father’s car, took out a loaded gun he found there, and shot himself.

Florida police said that Kaleb Ahles turned the .380 calibre weapon towards his chest and pulled the trigger while his parents loaded the cars with boxes during a house move.

Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said, ‘He probably barely got the trigger pulled.’

Family members were all around the car helping the boy’s parents, Kevin Ahles and Christina Nigro, both 23, move house.

The parents said they heard a loud, ‘Pop’ and ran to the car.

Sheriff Gualtieri said the incident was a ‘tragic situation’.

He said the department would not press charges.

Tragic and senseless death. I'm wondering why the parents aren't being charged with at least negligent homicide.

Do you think the parents should have been charged?

They should be charged, yes. That is improper storing of a deadly weapon and look at the results. The parents should be charged for failing to be a responsible gun owner and should not be allowed to own weapons.

 

[+paradox]

if the glove-box had a loaded gun in it then yes, it should have been locked, especially because there's children around...

a few charges should have been filed against the gun owner who put that gun in there with out locking the glove-box...

also, why wasn't the gun on lock-mode?

 

[Excommunicado]

Wow. Just wow. This world is truly phsyco.

 

[seasidemike]

Another toddler with a gun???

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

No charges should be filed unless these parents have some kind of history of neglect. Yes the only reason a gun should be locked in any way to restrict firing it is in this situation. Otherwise it should be loaded with a bullet in the chamber with very easy access.

 

[+paradox]

No charges should be filed unless these parents have some kind of history of neglect. Yes the only reason a gun should be locked in any way to restrict firing it is in this situation. Otherwise it should be loaded with a bullet in the chamber with very easy access.

so, in your eyes, people have to have a history of neglect to be considered to be neglectful?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

No charges should be filed unless these parents have some kind of history of neglect. Yes the only reason a gun should be locked in any way to restrict firing it is in this situation. Otherwise it should be loaded with a bullet in the chamber with very easy access.

so, in your eyes, people have to have a history of neglect to be considered to be neglectful?

Since that is a very vague question that could mean anything and a whole host of scenarios in the way you wrote it. But in this case if they had a history of being good parents from witnesses, doctors and such. And had no record of being neglectful then yes no arrest should be done. People make honest mistakes and bad things happen. Kids get hurt and killed every day by other means from parents turning there head just for a second with no bad intentions and our society excepts this as a horrible sad thing and pities the parents involved. But if it has the word gun in it then they must have had the worst intentions.

 

[+paradox]

No charges should be filed unless these parents have some kind of history of neglect. Yes the only reason a gun should be locked in any way to restrict firing it is in this situation. Otherwise it should be loaded with a bullet in the chamber with very easy access.

so, in your eyes, people have to have a history of neglect to be considered to be neglectful?

Since that is a very vague question that could mean anything and a whole host of scenarios in the way you wrote it. But in this case if they had a history of being good parents from witnesses, doctors and such. And had no record of being neglectful then yes no arrest should be done. People make honest mistakes and bad things happen. Kids get hurt and killed every day by other means from parents turning there head just for a second with no bad intentions and our society excepts this as a horrible sad thing and pities the parents involved. But if it has the word gun in it then they must have had the worst intentions.

it is the parent's/gun owner's responsibility as a gun owner to keep that gun away from any children or any children away from their gun(s)... the gun didn't even have it's safety lock on and the glove-box should have been locked...

it was neglect to the t and anyone can see...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

No charges should be filed unless these parents have some kind of history of neglect. Yes the only reason a gun should be locked in any way to restrict firing it is in this situation. Otherwise it should be loaded with a bullet in the chamber with very easy access.

so, in your eyes, people have to have a history of neglect to be considered to be neglectful?

Since that is a very vague question that could mean anything and a whole host of scenarios in the way you wrote it. But in this case if they had a history of being good parents from witnesses, doctors and such. And had no record of being neglectful then yes no arrest should be done. People make honest mistakes and bad things happen. Kids get hurt and killed every day by other means from parents turning there head just for a second with no bad intentions and our society excepts this as a horrible sad thing and pities the parents involved. But if it has the word gun in it then they must have had the worst intentions.

it is the parent's/gun owner's responsibility as a gun owner to keep that gun away from any children or any children away from their gun(s)... the gun didn't even have it's safety lock on and the glove-box should have been locked...

it was neglect to the t and anyone can see...

So then EVERY accident that happens to get a child hurt or killed because a parent made a innocent mistake should get the same treatment. A child slips and falls cracks there head open off to jail with them. A child grabs that pan of boiling water and it spills on them off to jail with them. A child cuts themselves that requires medical treatment where are those handcuffs!

 

[+paradox]

No charges should be filed unless these parents have some kind of history of neglect. Yes the only reason a gun should be locked in any way to restrict firing it is in this situation. Otherwise it should be loaded with a bullet in the chamber with very easy access.

so, in your eyes, people have to have a history of neglect to be considered to be neglectful?

Since that is a very vague question that could mean anything and a whole host of scenarios in the way you wrote it. But in this case if they had a history of being good parents from witnesses, doctors and such. And had no record of being neglectful then yes no arrest should be done. People make honest mistakes and bad things happen. Kids get hurt and killed every day by other means from parents turning there head just for a second with no bad intentions and our society excepts this as a horrible sad thing and pities the parents involved. But if it has the word gun in it then they must have had the worst intentions.

it is the parent's/gun owner's responsibility as a gun owner to keep that gun away from any children or any children away from their gun(s)... the gun didn't even have it's safety lock on and the glove-box should have been locked...

it was neglect to the t and anyone can see...

So then EVERY accident that happens to get a child hurt or killed because a parent made a innocent mistake should get the same treatment.
except, that wasn't an accident, it was neglect...

A child slips and falls cracks there head open off to jail with them. A child grabs that pan of boiling water and it spills on them off to jail with them. A child cuts themselves that requires medical treatment where are those handcuffs!
those scenarios aren't the same as leaving a loaded gun near children and that child shoots and kills himself...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

No charges should be filed unless these parents have some kind of history of neglect. Yes the only reason a gun should be locked in any way to restrict firing it is in this situation. Otherwise it should be loaded with a bullet in the chamber with very easy access.

so, in your eyes, people have to have a history of neglect to be considered to be neglectful?

Since that is a very vague question that could mean anything and a whole host of scenarios in the way you wrote it. But in this case if they had a history of being good parents from witnesses, doctors and such. And had no record of being neglectful then yes no arrest should be done. People make honest mistakes and bad things happen. Kids get hurt and killed every day by other means from parents turning there head just for a second with no bad intentions and our society excepts this as a horrible sad thing and pities the parents involved. But if it has the word gun in it then they must have had the worst intentions.

it is the parent's/gun owner's responsibility as a gun owner to keep that gun away from any children or any children away from their gun(s)... the gun didn't even have it's safety lock on and the glove-box should have been locked...

it was neglect to the t and anyone can see...

So then EVERY accident that happens to get a child hurt or killed because a parent made a innocent mistake should get the same treatment.
except, that wasn't an accident, it was neglect...

A child slips and falls cracks there head open off to jail with them. A child grabs that pan of boiling water and it spills on them off to jail with them. A child cuts themselves that requires medical treatment where are those handcuffs!
those scenarios aren't the same as leaving a loaded gun near children and that child shoots and kills himself...

All accidents could be looked as neglect. So again every time a child is hurt then we should put a parent in jail.

Sure they are the same they all can kill a child because a parent made a sad mistake to not remove that danger because it was overlooked.

 

[+paradox]

No charges should be filed unless these parents have some kind of history of neglect. Yes the only reason a gun should be locked in any way to restrict firing it is in this situation. Otherwise it should be loaded with a bullet in the chamber with very easy access.

so, in your eyes, people have to have a history of neglect to be considered to be neglectful?

Since that is a very vague question that could mean anything and a whole host of scenarios in the way you wrote it. But in this case if they had a history of being good parents from witnesses, doctors and such. And had no record of being neglectful then yes no arrest should be done. People make honest mistakes and bad things happen. Kids get hurt and killed every day by other means from parents turning there head just for a second with no bad intentions and our society excepts this as a horrible sad thing and pities the parents involved. But if it has the word gun in it then they must have had the worst intentions.

it is the parent's/gun owner's responsibility as a gun owner to keep that gun away from any children or any children away from their gun(s)... the gun didn't even have it's safety lock on and the glove-box should have been locked...

it was neglect to the t and anyone can see...

So then EVERY accident that happens to get a child hurt or killed because a parent made a innocent mistake should get the same treatment.
except, that wasn't an accident, it was neglect...

A child slips and falls cracks there head open off to jail with them. A child grabs that pan of boiling water and it spills on them off to jail with them. A child cuts themselves that requires medical treatment where are those handcuffs!
those scenarios aren't the same as leaving a loaded gun near children and that child shoots and kills himself...

All accidents could be looked as neglect. So again every time a child is hurt then we should put a parent in jail.

Sure they are the same they all can kill a child because a parent made a sad mistake to not remove that danger because it was overlooked.

with your frame of mind, all drunk drivers that kill people can be claimed as accidents and shouldn't be charged with anything...

good game...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

No charges should be filed unless these parents have some kind of history of neglect. Yes the only reason a gun should be locked in any way to restrict firing it is in this situation. Otherwise it should be loaded with a bullet in the chamber with very easy access.

so, in your eyes, people have to have a history of neglect to be considered to be neglectful?

Since that is a very vague question that could mean anything and a whole host of scenarios in the way you wrote it. But in this case if they had a history of being good parents from witnesses, doctors and such. And had no record of being neglectful then yes no arrest should be done. People make honest mistakes and bad things happen. Kids get hurt and killed every day by other means from parents turning there head just for a second with no bad intentions and our society excepts this as a horrible sad thing and pities the parents involved. But if it has the word gun in it then they must have had the worst intentions.

it is the parent's/gun owner's responsibility as a gun owner to keep that gun away from any children or any children away from their gun(s)... the gun didn't even have it's safety lock on and the glove-box should have been locked...

it was neglect to the t and anyone can see...

So then EVERY accident that happens to get a child hurt or killed because a parent made a innocent mistake should get the same treatment.
except, that wasn't an accident, it was neglect...

A child slips and falls cracks there head open off to jail with them. A child grabs that pan of boiling water and it spills on them off to jail with them. A child cuts themselves that requires medical treatment where are those handcuffs!
those scenarios aren't the same as leaving a loaded gun near children and that child shoots and kills himself...

All accidents could be looked as neglect. So again every time a child is hurt then we should put a parent in jail.

Sure they are the same they all can kill a child because a parent made a sad mistake to not remove that danger because it was overlooked.

with your frame of mind, all drunk drivers that kill people can be claimed as accidents and shouldn't be charged with anything...

good game...

A drunk driver deliberately took a substance that effects there body and then got in a car. So no!

 

[+paradox]

No charges should be filed unless these parents have some kind of history of neglect. Yes the only reason a gun should be locked in any way to restrict firing it is in this situation. Otherwise it should be loaded with a bullet in the chamber with very easy access.

so, in your eyes, people have to have a history of neglect to be considered to be neglectful?

Since that is a very vague question that could mean anything and a whole host of scenarios in the way you wrote it. But in this case if they had a history of being good parents from witnesses, doctors and such. And had no record of being neglectful then yes no arrest should be done. People make honest mistakes and bad things happen. Kids get hurt and killed every day by other means from parents turning there head just for a second with no bad intentions and our society excepts this as a horrible sad thing and pities the parents involved. But if it has the word gun in it then they must have had the worst intentions.

it is the parent's/gun owner's responsibility as a gun owner to keep that gun away from any children or any children away from their gun(s)... the gun didn't even have it's safety lock on and the glove-box should have been locked...

it was neglect to the t and anyone can see...

So then EVERY accident that happens to get a child hurt or killed because a parent made a innocent mistake should get the same treatment.
except, that wasn't an accident, it was neglect...

A child slips and falls cracks there head open off to jail with them. A child grabs that pan of boiling water and it spills on them off to jail with them. A child cuts themselves that requires medical treatment where are those handcuffs!
those scenarios aren't the same as leaving a loaded gun near children and that child shoots and kills himself...

All accidents could be looked as neglect. So again every time a child is hurt then we should put a parent in jail.

Sure they are the same they all can kill a child because a parent made a sad mistake to not remove that danger because it was overlooked.

with your frame of mind, all drunk drivers that kill people can be claimed as accidents and shouldn't be charged with anything...

good game...

A drunk driver deliberately took a substance that effects there body and then got in a car. So no!

a gun owner deliberately took his loaded and unlocked gun by children... so yes on neglect...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

No charges should be filed unless these parents have some kind of history of neglect. Yes the only reason a gun should be locked in any way to restrict firing it is in this situation. Otherwise it should be loaded with a bullet in the chamber with very easy access.

so, in your eyes, people have to have a history of neglect to be considered to be neglectful?

Since that is a very vague question that could mean anything and a whole host of scenarios in the way you wrote it. But in this case if they had a history of being good parents from witnesses, doctors and such. And had no record of being neglectful then yes no arrest should be done. People make honest mistakes and bad things happen. Kids get hurt and killed every day by other means from parents turning there head just for a second with no bad intentions and our society excepts this as a horrible sad thing and pities the parents involved. But if it has the word gun in it then they must have had the worst intentions.

it is the parent's/gun owner's responsibility as a gun owner to keep that gun away from any children or any children away from their gun(s)... the gun didn't even have it's safety lock on and the glove-box should have been locked...

it was neglect to the t and anyone can see...

So then EVERY accident that happens to get a child hurt or killed because a parent made a innocent mistake should get the same treatment.
except, that wasn't an accident, it was neglect...

A child slips and falls cracks there head open off to jail with them. A child grabs that pan of boiling water and it spills on them off to jail with them. A child cuts themselves that requires medical treatment where are those handcuffs!
those scenarios aren't the same as leaving a loaded gun near children and that child shoots and kills himself...

All accidents could be looked as neglect. So again every time a child is hurt then we should put a parent in jail.

Sure they are the same they all can kill a child because a parent made a sad mistake to not remove that danger because it was overlooked.

with your frame of mind, all drunk drivers that kill people can be claimed as accidents and shouldn't be charged with anything...

good game...

A drunk driver deliberately took a substance that effects there body and then got in a car. So no!

a gun owner deliberately took his loaded and unlocked gun by children... so yes on neglect...

A gun owner just like the mom who left her scolding boiling waters handle exposed made a sad mistake not neglect. A person who drinks and then gets in a car and drives has neglect on themselves.

 

[+paradox]

No charges should be filed unless these parents have some kind of history of neglect. Yes the only reason a gun should be locked in any way to restrict firing it is in this situation. Otherwise it should be loaded with a bullet in the chamber with very easy access.

so, in your eyes, people have to have a history of neglect to be considered to be neglectful?

Since that is a very vague question that could mean anything and a whole host of scenarios in the way you wrote it. But in this case if they had a history of being good parents from witnesses, doctors and such. And had no record of being neglectful then yes no arrest should be done. People make honest mistakes and bad things happen. Kids get hurt and killed every day by other means from parents turning there head just for a second with no bad intentions and our society excepts this as a horrible sad thing and pities the parents involved. But if it has the word gun in it then they must have had the worst intentions.

it is the parent's/gun owner's responsibility as a gun owner to keep that gun away from any children or any children away from their gun(s)... the gun didn't even have it's safety lock on and the glove-box should have been locked...

it was neglect to the t and anyone can see...

So then EVERY accident that happens to get a child hurt or killed because a parent made a innocent mistake should get the same treatment.
except, that wasn't an accident, it was neglect...

A child slips and falls cracks there head open off to jail with them. A child grabs that pan of boiling water and it spills on them off to jail with them. A child cuts themselves that requires medical treatment where are those handcuffs!
those scenarios aren't the same as leaving a loaded gun near children and that child shoots and kills himself...

All accidents could be looked as neglect. So again every time a child is hurt then we should put a parent in jail.

Sure they are the same they all can kill a child because a parent made a sad mistake to not remove that danger because it was overlooked.

with your frame of mind, all drunk drivers that kill people can be claimed as accidents and shouldn't be charged with anything...

good game...

A drunk driver deliberately took a substance that effects there body and then got in a car. So no!

a gun owner deliberately took his loaded and unlocked gun by children... so yes on neglect...

A gun owner just like the mom who left her scolding boiling waters handle exposed made a sad mistake not neglect. A person who drinks and then gets in a car and drives has neglect on themselves.

obviously you have no idea what an accident is nor what neglect is...

leaving a loaded unlocked gun near children and when the child is able to reach and get to it, let alone shoot it or himself, that's not an accident, because it could have been avoided... in other words, neglect...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

No I am pretty clear on the subject but thanks anyways.

 

[+paradox]

No I am pretty clear on the subject but thanks anyways.

obviously, you don't...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

But I am.