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Welfare Money

Jazzy

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Debate Topic
Should unemployed people be made to work for their welfare money?

Debate Statement
Nothing is free, whatever they are receiving was taken from someone else. I think it would be great if welfare recipients had to work to receive their check. There are always community service projects that need doing, they should have to work a certain number of hours picking up litter or helping out in a soup kitchen of something of that nature instead of just getting a free ride. It would build their self esteem, since they would actually be giving back instead of just completely depending on the system. I know there are some who have disabilities, but I'm sure there is a job they could do, even if it's just filing or something low key. I think this would also force some of the lazier recipients to just get a job since there would be no free ride anymore.

Debate Question
Do you agree or disagee wth the debate statement? (Please explain your answer)
 
Isn't there already welfare to work programs and time limits (here a person can only be on welfare for 5 years max, I think)?  The goal is to get them permanent jobs so that they can get off welfare, for good.  

There's plenty of criminals (in alternative work programs) to pick up litter and do other community service type things.

But yeah, disabled people should be on disability (not welfare).
 
Government should not be supplying any welfare at all but if we are going to give it out then they should be working a 40 hour week like anyone else with a job. Imagine how good communities would look with 93 million people working.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Government should not be supplying any welfare at all but if we are going to give it out then they should be working a 40 hour week like anyone else with a job. Imagine how good communities would look with 93 million people working.

then the federal or state government will have their majority of american citizens would be government workers... it will still not help the nation's debt...

giving free money to other countries don't help our nation's debt either...
 
+freezy said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Government should not be supplying any welfare at all but if we are going to give it out then they should be working a 40 hour week like anyone else with a job. Imagine how good communities would look with 93 million people working.


then the federal or state government will have their majority of american citizens would be government workers... it will still not help the nation's debt...

giving free money to other countries don't help our nation's debt either...

As I said government should not be supplying any money with people who have two good hands and feet. But if I no choice to supply it then make them work. Welfare overall pays lousy with no benefits and if say we make them do all the ugly jobs like say cleaning up cities or some other awful work I can't think of well then people are going to get motivated to find something better. Again though if we just cut them off that motivation will kick in when they begin to starve.

I agree.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
+freezy said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Government should not be supplying any welfare at all but if we are going to give it out then they should be working a 40 hour week like anyone else with a job. Imagine how good communities would look with 93 million people working.


then the federal or state government will have their majority of american citizens would be government workers... it will still not help the nation's debt...

giving free money to other countries don't help our nation's debt either...

As I said government should not be supplying any money with people who have two good hands and feet. But if I no choice to supply it then make them work. Welfare overall pays lousy with no benefits and if say we make them do all the ugly jobs like say cleaning up cities or some other awful work I can't think of well then people are going to get motivated to find something better. Again though if we just cut them off that motivation will kick in when they begin to starve.

I agree.

um, you do realize that people can't just get jobs if there's not enough jobs for everyone, right?

there's so many unemployed and/or homeless people in america that are willing and are desperate to find and get a job... you think that everyone that's on welfare are just people that are lazy and don't want to work? i think you're lost in fairy-tale land...

so many businesses are too picky these days as well, that's another issue people are facing when there's so many people unemployed and the economy is so trashed...
 
+freezy said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
+freezy said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Government should not be supplying any welfare at all but if we are going to give it out then they should be working a 40 hour week like anyone else with a job. Imagine how good communities would look with 93 million people working.


then the federal or state government will have their majority of american citizens would be government workers... it will still not help the nation's debt...

giving free money to other countries don't help our nation's debt either...

As I said government should not be supplying any money with people who have two good hands and feet. But if I no choice to supply it then make them work. Welfare overall pays lousy with no benefits and if say we make them do all the ugly jobs like say cleaning up cities or some other awful work I can't think of well then people are going to get motivated to find something better. Again though if we just cut them off that motivation will kick in when they begin to starve.

I agree.


um, you do realize that people can't just get jobs if there's not enough jobs for everyone, right?

there's so many unemployed and/or homeless people in america that are willing and are desperate to find and get a job... you think that everyone that's on welfare are just people that are lazy and don't want to work? i think you're lost in fairy-tale land...

so many businesses are too picky these days as well, that's another issue people are facing when there's so many people unemployed and the economy is so trashed...

Thank god when the immigrants who got off the boat to be in America with nothing in there pockets but lint did not think that way otherwise they would be dead right there at the port of entry.
 
+freezy said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
+freezy said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Government should not be supplying any welfare at all but if we are going to give it out then they should be working a 40 hour week like anyone else with a job. Imagine how good communities would look with 93 million people working.


then the federal or state government will have their majority of american citizens would be government workers... it will still not help the nation's debt...

giving free money to other countries don't help our nation's debt either...

As I said government should not be supplying any money with people who have two good hands and feet. But if I no choice to supply it then make them work. Welfare overall pays lousy with no benefits and if say we make them do all the ugly jobs like say cleaning up cities or some other awful work I can't think of well then people are going to get motivated to find something better. Again though if we just cut them off that motivation will kick in when they begin to starve.

I agree.


um, you do realize that people can't just get jobs if there's not enough jobs for everyone, right?

there's so many unemployed and/or homeless people in america that are willing and are desperate to find and get a job... you think that everyone that's on welfare are just people that are lazy and don't want to work? i think you're lost in fairy-tale land...

so many businesses are too picky these days as well, that's another issue people are facing when there's so many people unemployed and the economy is so trashed...

And there are jobs out there but if you can collect welfare instead of flipping burgers or working on a farm people are going to take the handout most of the time.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
+freezy said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
+freezy said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Government should not be supplying any welfare at all but if we are going to give it out then they should be working a 40 hour week like anyone else with a job. Imagine how good communities would look with 93 million people working.


then the federal or state government will have their majority of american citizens would be government workers... it will still not help the nation's debt...

giving free money to other countries don't help our nation's debt either...

As I said government should not be supplying any money with people who have two good hands and feet. But if I no choice to supply it then make them work. Welfare overall pays lousy with no benefits and if say we make them do all the ugly jobs like say cleaning up cities or some other awful work I can't think of well then people are going to get motivated to find something better. Again though if we just cut them off that motivation will kick in when they begin to starve.

I agree.


um, you do realize that people can't just get jobs if there's not enough jobs for everyone, right?

there's so many unemployed and/or homeless people in america that are willing and are desperate to find and get a job... you think that everyone that's on welfare are just people that are lazy and don't want to work? i think you're lost in fairy-tale land...

so many businesses are too picky these days as well, that's another issue people are facing when there's so many people unemployed and the economy is so trashed...

Thank god when the immigrants who got off the boat to be in America with nothing in there pockets but lint did not think that way otherwise they would be dead right there at the port of entry.

think what way? what are you talking about? i never said anything about people thinking a certain way... i'm only telling you the facts on what the real issues are, unlike you, in your little fairy-tale world of yours... :P
 
+freezy said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
+freezy said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
+freezy said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Government should not be supplying any welfare at all but if we are going to give it out then they should be working a 40 hour week like anyone else with a job. Imagine how good communities would look with 93 million people working.


then the federal or state government will have their majority of american citizens would be government workers... it will still not help the nation's debt...

giving free money to other countries don't help our nation's debt either...

As I said government should not be supplying any money with people who have two good hands and feet. But if I no choice to supply it then make them work. Welfare overall pays lousy with no benefits and if say we make them do all the ugly jobs like say cleaning up cities or some other awful work I can't think of well then people are going to get motivated to find something better. Again though if we just cut them off that motivation will kick in when they begin to starve.

I agree.


um, you do realize that people can't just get jobs if there's not enough jobs for everyone, right?

there's so many unemployed and/or homeless people in america that are willing and are desperate to find and get a job... you think that everyone that's on welfare are just people that are lazy and don't want to work? i think you're lost in fairy-tale land...

so many businesses are too picky these days as well, that's another issue people are facing when there's so many people unemployed and the economy is so trashed...

Thank god when the immigrants who got off the boat to be in America with nothing in there pockets but lint did not think that way otherwise they would be dead right there at the port of entry.


think what way? what are you talking about? i never said anything about people thinking a certain way... i'm only telling you the facts on what the real issues are, unlike you, in your little fairy-tale world of yours... :P

You crack me up!
 
okay liberty, answer me this then...

would you give up your job to a person that's unemployed and you'll get his little government check?
 
+freezy said:
okay liberty, answer me this then...

would you give up your job to a person that's unemployed and you'll get his little government check?

I would starve first before I would take any government handout. But I am looking forward to this analogy coming my way.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
+freezy said:
okay liberty, answer me this then...

would you give up your job to a person that's unemployed and you'll get his little government check?

I would starve first before I would take any government handout. But I am looking forward to this analogy coming my way.

dodging the question, eh? :lol:
 
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