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why don't al qaeda and isis attack israel?

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the premises of this article will challenge your belief systems if you consider yourself a good citizen, conservative or liberal, of the united states, the UK or any other country whose currency is controlled by a bank of the rothschild-morgan cartel.

dwight eisenhower warned us of the results of misplaced power in the hands of over-zealous leaders of the military-industrial complex and john kennedy warned us of the secret societies and their plans against us shortly before he was assassinated.

if one takes a long view of history, it can easily be seen how the world has been made up of competing church/state fiefdoms that would expand and recede over time as the result of wars that have been started continuously over the access to natural resources of one or more of the warring parties. this site has some maps which illustrate that very well. www.mapsofwar.com

the people who were in control of the trade routes between the seats of empire were the ones who were really in charge of the empires, with puppet monarchs on either end of the route, playing both ends from the middle in times of war. in 'operating manual for spaceship earth', buckminster fuller called these people the 'great pirates'. where i believe fuller's reasoning was in error, was that he believed the great pirates died out with the rise of democracy in america and europe, but it really appears that the pirates have merely metamorphosed into the multinational industrialist banking cartel built by the morgan, rothschild and rockefeller dynasties, who have created a perpetual war machine governed by their shills in the governments of the US, UK and israel.

this author, and others, allege that this alliance, which includes the saudis as well, are the ones financing all the islamic extremists. please try to consider the factual evidence given without an emotional attachment to what you've been conditioned to believe as true.


Conventionalist Emotional Characteristic (CEC): A behavioral characteristic and Cluster C personality disorder rooted in the political psyche in which highly suggestible people exhibit a hardwired and binding emotional attachment to the conventions of their particular sociopolitical system, it’s institutions, and social norms; sometimes characterized by a strong emotional attachment to one of possibly several sanctioned ideologies. People with CEC emotionally, and often actively, defend such conventions against all who may question, challenge, or disparage their legitimacy, often stubbornly rejecting even hard contradictive evidence, while emotionally clinging to conventional fallacy at the expense of reality.

one thing that science taught me was not to believe anything as 100% true or false. there are exceptions thrown to every rule and theorems crumble completely in the face of new discoveries pretty regularly. add in the massive amount of disinformation pumped into the system by the need to establish plausible deniability for the conspirators behind these major world shaping events and we have extreme difficulties in discerning truth from fiction.

why aren't ISIS and al qaeda attacking israel?

The question then is “Why?” Why does Israel not share the concern it has over Palestinians, Iranians, Syrians, and Lebanese with al-Nusra, ISIS, and al-Qaeda? Why do these groups wage jihad against Israel’s enemies but not against Israel itself?



Indeed, this curious fact was also raised by Nabil Na’eem, the former al-Qaeda commander who recently gave an interview to Al-Maydeen where he stated that these organizations of Islamic terror were in fact controlled by the CIA. Na’eem stated in regards to Issam Hattito,
For instance, Issam Hattito, head of Muslim Brotherhood responsible for leading the battles against Bashar Assad, where does he reside? Is he in Beirut? Riyadh or Cairo? He’s residing in Tel Aviv.
Ahmad Jarba, does he stay in Riyadh, Cairo or Tehran? He’s moving between New York, Paris and London, his employers, who pay his expenses . . .
Na’eem is right to point out these odd bedfellows because it provides one small piece of a larger puzzle – that Israel, along with its cohorts in the West (the United States and Europe) are not victims of Islamic terror, they are sponsors of it.

Israel was even documented in 2011 as hosting and directing a terrorist mercenary training camp inside the country in order to produce mercenaries tailor-made to be used in the Arab world.

What’s more, the Israeli establishment does not seem to feel the need to hide its support for terrorism which, in this specific instance, tends to take the form of mercenaries. Indeed, the Israeli terrorist trainers actually appear to be quite open about their efforts.

In a 2011 report conducted by The Media Line,[1] an international news organization which focuses on the Middle East, Arieh O’Sullivan was able to film an Israeli-run terrorist mercenary training camp, complete with interviews, on-scene narration, and ample video footage of actual training taking place.

As the report begins, one can see a multicultural group of men –Arabs, Africans, Europeans, etc. – dressed in typical Arab clothing, riding camels, and taking part in tactical training.

“The men on these camels have been training for the past week to operate in the Arab world,” O’Sullivan says. “They dress as Arabs, even take a ride on a desert Ferrari [camel] and learn rudimentary phrases that will allow them to do their job. They have come to Israel to learn from former members of the country’s secret services.”

The report continues by saying,
On this training base, run by the International Security Academy Israel, they are tapping into Israel’s unique experience in dealing with these threats and learning counterterrorism techniques in convoy and [VIP? ] protection. The changes in the Middle East may be dubbed the Arab Spring but, to continue with another metaphor, it’s about to get hot.
Out here far away from prying eyes, a group of personal protection specialists have come to Israel to learn about the Israeli tactics. Their background is diverse – from police to military officers – even a former French Legionnaire. They will go on to work for governments and private security contractors.


As Justin Raimondo of AntiWar.com wrote in his 2006 article “Hamas, Son of Israel,”
Amid all the howls of pain and gnashing of teeth over the triumph of Hamas in the Palestinian elections, one fact remains relatively obscure, albeit highly relevant: Israel did much to launch Hamas as an effective force in the occupied territories. If ever there was a clear case of “blowback,” then this is it. As Richard Sale pointed out in a piece for UPI:
Israel and Hamas may currently be locked in deadly combat, but, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials, beginning in the late 1970s, Tel Aviv gave direct and indirect financial aid to Hamas over a period of years. Israel ‘aided Hamas directly – the Israelis wanted to use it as a counterbalance to the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization),’ said Tony Cordesman, Middle East analyst for the Center for Strategic [and International] Studies.Israel’s support for Hamas ‘was a direct attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO by using a competing religious alternative,’ said a former senior CIA official.
Middle East analyst Ray Hanania concurs:
In addition to hoping to turn the Palestinian masses away from Arafat and the PLO, the Likud leadership believed they could achieve a workable alliance with Islamic, anti-Arafat forces that would also extend Israel’s control over the occupied territories.
In a conscious effort to undermine the Palestine Liberation Organization and the leadership of Yasser Arafat, in 1978 the government of then-Prime Minister Menachem Begin approved the application of Sheik Ahmad Yassin to start a “humanitarian” organization known as the Islamic Association, or Mujama. The roots of this Islamist group were in the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood, and this was the seed that eventually grew into Hamas – but not before it was amply fertilized and nurtured with Israeli funding and political support.
 
They are.

And they were being paid by those who officially look the other way or pay lip service to stopping the violence.


From 2003
Moreover, it soon turned out that Saudi Arabia itself had been paying allowances to the families of "martyrs" and funneling money directly for Hamas, which was responsible for a majority of suicide attacks. The Saudi Committee for the Support of Al-Quds Intifada, headed by Saudi interior minister Prince Nayif bin 'Abd al-'Aziz, had been channeling money to Hamas and affiliated organizations. In the words of the Saudi government, the committee "has been extending assistance to the families of Palestinian martyrs, as well as injured and handicapped Palestinians." According to its own figures, published on an official Saudi government website, the family of each suicide bomber is paid 20,000 Saudi riyals (about $5,300). [23] In addition, money from the Saudi Committee for the Support of Al-Aqsa Intifada was paid to the Tulkarm Charity Committee, an organization cited by the United States as connected to Hamas. While it is clear that the charity committee does administer social work and aid, it is also known to have ties with the military apparatus of Hamas.[24]
http://www.meforum.org/530/must-innocents-die-the-islamic-debate-over
 

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