Obama wants to end ‘gay cure’ therapies for young people

[mrldii]

But I could care less if it works or doesn't.

Congratulations on making your first factual statement, while online. Ironically, you meant to convey, "I couldn't care less", but your posts prove it's much more accurate and reality-based the way you mistyped it.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

And from that, there is this:



Failure from the treatment? Gee, I wonder why... Sounds like this "healthy" and "right" way of treating what some people consider to be a "mental health condition," which the AMA/APA acknowledge it is most definitely not, is a huge steaming crock of shit. I stand by my belief that no one should be forced to do this, whether through coercion, under parental influence, or with a gun to one's head. People who put other's through this should be charged for it.

It very well could be a steaming pile of dog craps. But it is no one's business except family and ones self.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Congratulations on making your first factual statement, while online. Ironically, you meant to convey, "I couldn't care less", but your posts prove it's much more accurate and reality-based the way you mistyped it.

Ok?

 

[Dee]

It very well could be a steaming pile of dog craps. But it is no one's business except family and ones self.

It is when you're damaging the child's health and well being, but I know you don't care about how parents abuse their children.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

It is when you're damaging the child's health and well being, but I know you don't care about how parents abuse their children.

Any rational person cares but what the heck just throw a blanket statement out there about such things. But once again I will put my trust in most families over any government knowing whats best for themselves.

 

[Dee]

Any rational person cares but what the heck just throw a blanket statement out there about such things. But once again I will put my trust in most families over any government knowing whats best for themselves.

I know you will. You're leaving it up to the people who are ignorant and abusive and that's just fine with you, which is sad to me, but hey, you're free to think what you want. I will continue to claim what I think, and that is that parents should not be allowed to force their children to go through with gay conversion therapy. It does more damage than good from what I've read, and there's absolutely nothing wrong or unnatural with being gay. No one needs to be converted. Our society and culture is the one that needs an overhaul.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I know you will. You're leaving it up to the people who are ignorant and abusive and that's just fine with you, which is sad to me, but hey, you're free to think what you want. I will continue to claim what I think, and that is that parents should not be allowed to force their children to go through with gay conversion therapy. It does more damage than good from what I've read, and there's absolutely nothing wrong or unnatural with being gay. No one needs to be converted. Our society and culture is the one that needs an overhaul.

Yes, I certainly do trust the people over government every single time. But I am not against stringent rules regarding such processes if families and grown individuals freely choose to do such a process. And I did say also after reading the process the minor should have free choice in this. That is your opinion it does more bad then good since there is no conclusive evidence either way. And I also agree 100% there is nothing wrong or unnatural about being gay I just believe in free choice to decide over government rules deciding otherwise. And again that is your opinion no one needs to be converted when that individual might think otherwise.

 

[mrldii]

...That is your opinion it does more bad then good since there is no conclusive evidence either way...

*AHEM*

The citation YOU'D provided to bolster YOUR position included the factual findings that it DOES do more harm than good, as stated by the APA - which you agreed with when they wrote what you wanted to read, but are now dismissing when writing what you DON'T want to read. YOU needed to continue reading YOUR-provided citation to see it.

http://borngay.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000035

And I quote:

"Until there is such research available, APA recommends that ethical practitioners refrain from attempts to change individuals' sexual orientation, keeping in mind the medical dictum, do no harm."




You're welcome.

 

[Dee]

Gosh, I wonder why they recommend not doing it. Hmmm...well, there's got to be some logical reasoning behind that, but hey let's allow all the parents of these gay kids who are therapists who know exactly what they're doing because apparently they're the experts. Good idea!

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

*AHEM*

The citation YOU'D provided to bolster YOUR position included the factual findings that it DOES do more harm than good, as stated by the APA - which you agreed with when they wrote what you wanted to read, but are now dismissing when writing what you DON'T want to read. YOU needed to continue reading YOUR-provided citation to see it.

http://borngay.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000035

And I quote:

"Until there is such research available, APA recommends that ethical practitioners refrain from attempts to change individuals' sexual orientation, keeping in mind the medical dictum, do no harm."




You're welcome.

No it conclusively said there is no conclusive evidence either way.

 

[mrldii]

No it conclusively said there is no conclusive evidence either way.

Nope. That was cut-and-pasted directly from the citation YOU'D provided...and it clearly states, 'DON'T try to change individuals' sexual orientation' if for no other reason than, as practitioners they are bound by the "Do No Harm" premise.


Says so, itself, right there, in black-and-white, in the citation YOU'D provided.

:tongue: