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9/11

Temerit

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What do you think happened?



Unanticipated Terrorist Attack?



Government Organized False Flag Operation?



Anticipated and Allow Terrorist Attack?



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For me, I'm well versed on this subject and I can't make up my mind. As much as I would like to believe the government, the intelligent part of me won't let me, just because of the wealth of oddities that have surrounded this day.
 
Before anybody goes running off at the keyboard about conspiracy... go read this:



http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842



There is plenty of US Government incompetency to go around. The fact that the CIA could not (or would not) share information with the FBI or the Pentagon is absolutely absurd and possibly even criminal.



But the fact remains that there are people in this world who wished then, and wish now, to harm the US and turn this country into a second rate power and third world economy.



And, unfortunately, I believe there are those in elected office in this country who seek the same ends.
 
I have watched the History Channel Debunking Documentary with which they interviewed the people from Popular Mechanics and had them debunk several conspiracy claims, but I have found in many cases their explanations to be inconclusive, and sometimes they don't even make sense. And nothing they have said goes to any length to explain government behavior either before or after 9/11.



I have also read the popular mechanics debunking report. I'll probably end up reading it again, but last time I did I remember there were still many things left unadressed.



nd, unfortunately, I believe there are those in elected office in this country who seek the same ends.
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I don't necessarily disagree, but what motive would you find for these sorts of people. Aside from the extremely wealthy bankers who could crash the system and then reinvest and benefit from the recovery, what motive is there? Do you simply mean that they don't care and simply are in elected office for bribery money?
 
Bad things happen all the time...

Havent thought about 9/11 rly...And why should i...
 
Why should you? Well if you are a human being you should care because 3,000 civilians died on that day. If you are American you should care because this event was used to justify two preemptive wars and the entire Bush doctrine. It was no coincidence that before 9/11 Bush couldn't get anything done.
 
Yet not a lot of people cared or cares about all of those women and children died when the USA attacked and took over IRAQ for no good reason...
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If I recall there were many many protests against the Iraq war.. But yes, it disgusts me what we did there.



IRAQ had nothing to do with 9/11...
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No, but blind fear was instilled into the public concerning the middle east and without 9/11 Bush would not have been able to garner support to go to Iraq.
 
^ This is true.

They used it as an excuse and played on people's ignorance about the Middle East (it's all the same *Rolls eyes*) to garner support to invade Iraq.



9/11 was a terrorist attack, and deplorable. But it was about politics, not Islam.
 
DrLeftover said:
Innocent People Died.



They Died In New York, Virginia, and Pennsylvania.



People that weren't there are now passing judgment on it.
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And as a result, although completely disconnected with 9/11 - innocent people have died and had their lives devestated in Iraq - more damage has been done in the last 7 years than was done in the 34 years prior that Saddam was in power.



I'm not judging 9/11, at all. I'm just saying it had nothing to do with Iraq, and was used as a tool by Bush (regardless of who commited the attrocities that took place on that day)...Is it wrong of us to state fact?



Isn't the fact that George Bush capitalised on said approx. 3,000 deaths a lot worse than us sitting here discussing (not 'judging') it, DrLeftover?



In closing, it's known 9/11 was anticipated and no preventative measures were taken.
 
I do not know what was in the mind of Mr Bush, nor of Congress when they voted to authorize it (is it wrong for us to quote Mrs. Clinton's statement here?)



So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interests of our nation. A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President and we say to him - use these powers wisely and as a last resort. And it is a vote that says clearly to Saddam Hussein - this is your last chance - disarm or be disarmed.

Floor Speech of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton

10 October 2002

[available the US Senate web site]
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I have always said that Mr. Bush told his father that he'd finish the job that George H.W. Bush started in 1990 to drive the Iraqi forces out of Kuwait.



The Attack on America by forces of Al Qaida was his excuse.



But of course Mr. Hussein was totally innocent in the matter and he had met every request by the United Nations properly and in a timely way while he ruled his country with honor in the most noble way that ensured personal freedom to his people to live their own lives in peace and answer their own conscious in matters of their choice of religion and political party. Right?



Of course right.
 
+abiel said:
[quote name='DrLeftover']But of course Mr. Hussein was totally innocent in the matter and he had met every request by the United Nations properly and in a timely way while he ruled his country with honor in the most noble way that ensured personal freedom to his people to live their own lives in peace and answer their own conscious in matters of their choice of religion and political party. Right?



Of course right.
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Who is American to demand any country to do anything when they aren't a threat to us?[/quote]



Did I say he met every request by America?



If I did, I'm sorry and sincerely apologize.



I meant to say....



UN Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq
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http://www.casi.org.uk/info/scriraq.html
 
North Korea and Iran do a great job of complying with UN security demands eh? Well then why aren't we harvesting oil in those nations?



Unlike Iraq, NK DOES have WMDs.
 
Sayf Udeen said:
[quote name='Temerit']Unlike Iraq, NK DOES have WMDs.
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Let's not forget Israel...Now, why aren't the US on Israel's case....[/quote]



(because perchance Mr Obama agrees with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that Israel disappear ...

I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene, he said.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080602124328.f6eyi8y1 )
 
DrLeftover said:
[quote name='Sayf Udeen'][quote name='Temerit']Unlike Iraq, NK DOES have WMDs.
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Let's not forget Israel...Now, why aren't the US on Israel's case....[/quote]



(because perchance Mr Obama agrees with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that Israel disappear ...

I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene, he said.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080602124328.f6eyi8y1 )[/quote]



Israel is an illegal state and should have never been formed. They continue to commit crimes against humanity relentlessly, and Obama is right to condemn them.



But what you said isn't actually a direct answer to my question...I'm curious as to why nothing has been done about them, and all the action in the world was taken against Iraq. It just doesn't make sense - on a logical basis...Until you include ulterior motives (when going into Iraq, and protecting Israel alike)
 
Okay.

They were blasted.

I stand corrected.



But what was ACTUALLY done about it?

Who paid the price for Israel's actions, besides those who died at Israel's hands?
 
Israel is an illegal state?



Using that same logic, Kuwait is also illegal.



The ruling family of Saudi Arabia is illegal as they usurped power from the Rasheeds.



An argument could be made that every modern country is illegal in one way or another. The USA and the UK certainly are. As is China and the current government of Japan.



Now. Because they are illegal they deserve to be attacked?
 
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