A Mr. Jazzy-esque Debate Room Thread

[Temerit]

Is there any truth in this quote?



Forgive me for noting that conservatives seem to believe that the rich will work harder if we give them more, and the poor will work harder if we give them less.

 

[DrLeftover]

On the surface, it would seem to be a true statement.



Although I know absolutely nothing about 'the rich'.



However, I have some experience with the 'welfare class', and some of them (I said SOME of them) will not work no matter what is or is not 'given' to them. Period.





“One of the consequences of such notions as entitlements is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.”



Thomas Sowell (American Writer and Economist, b.1930)

 

[DrLeftover]

So, you want my opinion on the quote?



Or?

I have an idea what he was fishing for, and I wasn't going to go that way even though I have been declared 'a Troll'.

 

[Temerit]

‎We only notice government when it inhibits us; when a small business confronts a new regulation. Most of us don't notice (because it's invisible) when government programs allow us to sleep well at night. We never really worry that airplanes are going to crash, or that trucks with hazardous materials that trundle by each morning are going to explode; or whether the electricity is going to be on today, or whether the Internet is going to be on, or whether the breakfast food we eat is going to poison us, or whether a bridge is going to collapse as we drive to work, or whether, if we have a heart attack and no health insurance, the ER doc isn't going to give us an ECG. Obviously, sometimes these things happen, and maybe the private sector can play a larger role than it does. But they would happen all the time if the silent machinery of government weren't working pretty well.

 

[DrLeftover]

Agreed.



But do we really need government regulation of the size of the holes in Swiss Cheese?

 

[Evil Eye]

But do we really need government regulation of the size of the holes in Swiss Cheese?

Once the holes start getting bigger than the cheese, yes. Until then... no.

 

[DrLeftover]

If you're buying by weight, it won't matter how large the holes are.



And if you don't like it, don't buy it.

 

[Temerit]

Sometimes I wish analogies didn't exist.



They are worse than language itself for equating unequal things.

 

[DrLeftover]

Mine wasn't an analogy.



It's real.



http://www.ams.usda....=STELDEV3004468

 

[Temerit]

Still using it as a generalization for government regulation as a whole.

 

[Evil Eye]

Mine wasn't an analogy.

Oh dear...

 

[DrLeftover]

Do you want more examples of Excessive regulation? There are at least a couple more.



Yes, it is a good idea to have government oversight over radioactive vapor releases from nuclear power plants and making sure that there aren't too many toxins in over the counter medication, but is there any sense to well, federal law defining duck down versus goose down in pillows? A sample of which is-

When a label identifies a particular species (e.g., goose down, duck down), only a modest deviation reflecting unavoidable manufacturing variations, despite the exercise of due care, is acceptable. Truthful, nondeceptive disclosures of any species (waterfowl or landfowl) are acceptable.

http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus37-down-not-out-advertising-and-labeling-feather-down