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Australian Greens Respond To Catholic Guidelines on Gender Identity

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...apparently America's not the only country suffering from anti-trans bigotry....

(The Guardian) Greens respond to new Catholic guidelines on gender identity
The Greens have responded to reports the Catholic education system has adopted new guidelines on gender identity.

According to The Australian, the Australian Catholic Bishops Conference will advise schools that: Research data strongly suggests that, for the vast majority of children and adolescents, gender incongruence is a psychological condition through which they will pass safely and naturally with supportive psychological care.

It reportedly stipulates that pastoral care initiatives that are “in conflict with the generosity of the Christian vision” are also to be “respectfully avoided”, including concepts that say gender is arbitrarily assigned at birth, gender is fluid and that gender is separate from biological sex.

The Greens schools spokesperson, Penny Allman-Payne, said: As a teacher for 30 years I know how challenging school can sometimes be for young people figuring out their gender identity. They need to be supported and encouraged to affirm their genders, not abandoned during what can be an incredibly difficult and confusing time.

Archbishop Peter Comensoli says Catholic schools adhere to the principle that everyone is loved by God. Abandoning vulnerable students is an odd way for them to show it.

The party’s LGBTQ+ spokesperson, Stephen Bates, said: Trans and gender diverse children already suffer elevated rates of poor mental health outcomes and suicide risk as a result of the discrimination and bullying they regularly experience. Schools should be a place where we set young people up with the confidence and skills to thrive in our society, but instead the Catholic Bishops Conference wants to see schools undermine the agency and acceptance of already marginalised communities.

 
So we're back to the old "pray the gay away" mentality, but for gender identity, is that it? At least the church bigotry is consistent.
 
So we're back to the old "pray the gay away" mentality, but for gender identity, is that it? At least the church bigotry is consistent.
Pretty much, yeah....
 
...yeah, the Catholic church are a bastion of child safety...


Everyone has to make up for past sins. And this is a good start. They aren’t any better or worse than the governments we live under with their history but yet we all expect them to keep us safe.
 
Everyone has to make up for past sins. And this is a good start.
...wow. So as long as they're going after trans youths' ability to be themselves they can be forgiven, eh?
They aren’t any better or worse than the governments we live under with their history but yet we all expect them to keep us safe.
Well, you know, everyone has to make up for past sins...;)
 
...wow. So as long as they're going after trans youths' ability to be themselves they can be forgiven, eh?



If being yourself as a minor is to pump you up full of drugs that are non reversible and then possibly surgery. I damn well hope so! Now if they are just stopping the way you dress, act and who you want to be with then they wouldn’t have my support. But that’s not what they are doing.




Well, you know, everyone has to make up for past sins...;)






And it’s a good start as I said
 
WHO IS SERAFIN said:
If being yourself as a minor is to pump you up full of drugs that are non reversible and then possibly surgery. I damn well hope so! Now if they are just stopping the way you dress, act and who you want to be with then they wouldn’t have my support. But that’s not what they are doing.

...and that's not at all what they're stopping. They're stopping any form of gender expression outside of what the church considers normal. So yes, they are in fact stopping people from dressing, acting and being who they are.
 
I get it! Most kids by the time they are adults have a pretty good idea of who they are sexually and if you permanently damage them as minors then the radicals think you got all them for life. It’s evil but clever.
 
...and that's not at all what they're stopping. They're stopping any form of gender expression outside of what the church considers normal. So yes, they are in fact stopping people from dressing, acting and being who they are.


I’ve read it twice. Show me where it says specifically that.

Plus Catholic schools have a strict dress policy. Now are you saying they should give special privileges for kids who feel differently than other children?
 
I get it! Most kids by the time they are adults have a pretty good idea of who they are sexually and if you permanently damage them as minors then the radicals think you got all them for life. It’s evil but clever.
The mental gymnastics you're capable of...it's quite staggering.

"Oh, kids want to be themselves, let me jump on some right wing scare sites so I know how I feel about this. Right's against it? Got it! I don't know anything about this subject, but THEY'RE MUTILATING CHILDREN!!!"
 
The mental gymnastics you're capable of...it's quite staggering.

"Oh, kids want to be themselves, let me jump on some right wing scare sites so I know how I feel about this. Right's against it? Got it! I don't know anything about this subject, but THEY'RE MUTILATING CHILDREN!!!"


Why thank you!😂

They are called kids because they are learning who they are. Kids do it in many forms of experimentation. And that’s fine, most kids decide several times over before they realize what they like.

So yes permanent drugs is mutilation and you are taking that choice away from a still developing child of body and mind.
 
...and that's not at all what they're stopping. They're stopping any form of gender expression outside of what the church considers normal. So yes, they are in fact stopping people from dressing, acting and being who they are.
I will withdraw this remark here, in reading the actual guidelines released, the catholic schools will still allow flexibility with school dress codes, to a limited degree, for those who wish to express their gender identity. My apologies there, I'm wrong.
 
Everyone has to make up for past sins.
Then they should have their assets stripped and given to every child sexual abuse victim the Catholic Church ever harmed, for starters....
 
Then they should have their assets stripped and given to every child sexual abuse victim the Catholic Church ever harmed, for starters....


If you start with our government I’ll back you 100 percent.
 

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