Biden or Trump?

[Prometheus]

ruined our national standing among other countries (and clearly Russia wants to use him as a puppet)

How did he ruin our national standing among other countries? He made sure that we were taken seriously and weren't the pushover that we were quickly becoming under the administration of Obama where we went out of the way to do what was better for other countries and not our own. The President is our president, elected to do what's best for the US, first and foremost. Then we can look to helping the rest of the world.

Sunk us into a debt we will truly never get out of with his give everyone stimulus money with many big compines sucking it up for personal gain (no one likes more taxes, but I'll happily pay them if it means future infrastructure)

The debt you're referring to is nothing compared to Obama's administration and the Obamacare. The stimulus money was a joint venture by both political parties. The Democrats pushed for a lot of things like increasing the unemployment bonus to the point that people didn't want to go back to work when things started opening up again because they made more money sitting at home.

Being a symbol of the white supremacist people by being a bigot

Verge, seriously? You're quoting and referencing a severely Democratic leaning news organization for facts? How is Trump a symbol of white supremacist? You can't blame him for the actions of other people or groups who claim him in some manner. You'd have to do the same with the various groups rioting and burning in the name of George Floyd.

Wasting more time and money on a 'wall' that will never work

The wall may not work but the funding he's helped push to the agencies who monitor the borders has helped hire and train more personnel and allowed them to spend money to develop new technologies that will help monitor.

His many abuse of powers from the air strike to all the things that actually got him impeached and mishandling money by funneling it into his own stuff (he has a ton of illegal dealings under his name, the second he isn't president I'll bet you anything he flees the country)

Are you conveniently forgetting that he turned down the wages of the President, approximately 400k a year, because he wanted the money to go to other things? And you might as well point that same finger at Pelosi (known to have stocks in airlines and other ventures that she began moving around and investing in masks before the knowledge became public), Biden, etc. 90% of the members of the political game are corrupt and do insider trading using knowledge privy only to them before it gets to the public.

 

[Duskpire]

Are you conveniently forgetting that he turned down the wages of the President, approximately 400k a year, because he wanted the money to go to other things?

He's doing as promised. He recently donated 100k of his salary to repair damages done by Black Supremacist rioters who want to cover up history*cough* *cough* BLM. I think Trump is one of the most misunderstood and unappreciated presidents of our time. I honestly wish he got more recognition.

President Trump has donated $100,000 of his 2020 salary to the National Park Service to help pay for repairs on national monuments.

It marked the second time in three years that Trump has turned over part of his earnings to the park service. In 2017, the president donated $78,333 to help pay for the restoration of a historic house at the Antietam National Battlefield in Maryland (Greenwire, Oct. 23, 2017).

"I promised YOU I would not take a dime of salary as your President," Trump tweeted Friday night. "I donate the entire $400,000! It is my honor to give $100,000 to @NatlParkService to help repair and restore our GREAT National Monuments. So important to our American History! Thank You!!"

Article: https://www.eenews.net/stories/1063711849

 

[Prometheus]

He's doing as promised. He recently donated 100k of his salary to repair damages done by Black Supremacist rioters who want to cover up history*cough* *cough* BLM. I think Trump is one of the most misunderstood and unappreciated presidents of our time. I honestly wish he got more recognition.

I don't remember Obama ever donating any of his salary and I highly doubt that Biden or Harris would.

 

[Duskpire]

I don't remember Obama ever donating any of his salary and I highly doubt that Biden or Harris would.

Trump donated not Obama. It says it in my post that it was Trump who donated some of his earnings.

 

[Demon_skeith]

How did he ruin our national standing among other countries? He made sure that we were taken seriously and weren't the pushover that we were quickly becoming under the administration of Obama where we went out of the way to do what was better for other countries and not our own. The President is our president, elected to do what's best for the US, first and foremost. Then we can look to helping the rest of the world.

Mostly because he sounds like he is still talking to a scripted television audience. Which at this point we import some of our most important things from other (mostly china) countries, so we got to play global peace keeping or lose those imports. This pandemic has shown americans can't give anything up.

The debt you're referring to is nothing compared to Obama's administration and the Obamacare. The stimulus money was a joint venture by both political parties. The Democrats pushed for a lot of things like increasing the unemployment bonus to the point that people didn't want to go back to work when things started opening up again because they made more money sitting at home.

For the record I'm not saying in my replies that Democrats are any better, at least with obamacare people were getting healthcare they needed, though not in ways it should have worked out. And yeah, not a big fan of making more money while sitting at home, that was completely wrong.

Verge, seriously? You're quoting and referencing a severely Democratic leaning news organization for facts? How is Trump a symbol of white supremacist? You can't blame him for the actions of other people or groups who claim him in some manner. You'd have to do the same with the various groups rioting and burning in the name of George Floyd.

Cool, you hate the site. Fine:

here, here, and here

The wall may not work but the funding he's helped push to the agencies who monitor the borders has helped hire and train more personnel and allowed them to spend money to develop new technologies that will help monitor.

only thing I ever read is about the wall, not more training or increasing actual surveillance. I'll give him props for that.

Are you conveniently forgetting that he turned down the wages of the President, approximately 400k a year, because he wanted the money to go to other things? And you might as well point that same finger at Pelosi (known to have stocks in airlines and other ventures that she began moving around and investing in masks before the knowledge became public), Biden, etc. 90% of the members of the political game are corrupt and do insider trading using knowledge privy only to them before it gets to the public.

By that logic Trump is just as guilty, because he has all foreign visitors at his estates, which funnels all right back to him.

 

[Prometheus]

Trump donated not Obama. It says it in my post that it was Trump who donated some of his earnings.

I know that, I was agreeing with you. Read my post again bro.

Mostly because he sounds like he is still talking to a scripted television audience. Which at this point we import some of our most important things from other (mostly china) countries, so we got to play global peace keeping or lose those imports. This pandemic has shown americans can't give anything up.

He's actually working to fix that and bring a lot of those critical manufacturing back. We allowed a lot of critical manufacturing to move outside the US, including the production of masks and other medical equipment. He is bringing it back.

As to your point about him talking like its a script. Are you not aware that 90% of Presidents do that? He's not the first and won't be the last. Biden is even worse, he can't even form coherent sentences without the help of a teleprompter.

For the record I'm not saying in my replies that Democrats are any better, at least with obamacare people were getting healthcare they needed, though not in ways it should have worked out. And yeah, not a big fan of making more money while sitting at home, that was completely wrong.

Yet, you'd prefer to have Biden and his crew in the highest office in the US, who have been the main supporters pushing to keep the unemployment bonus at the extra $600/week and other welfare benefits. They want to push for a socialist society where you are reliant on the government for an income and thus will continue to vote for what they want.

By that logic Trump is just as guilty, because he has all foreign visitors at his estates, which funnels all right back to him.

Ooookay, let's just forget the fact that Hunter Biden was just busted for human trafficking, a far more heinous crime.

Like I said, Trump isn't the best individual on a personal level; but, I don't have to like him for him to do his job, which he has been. He's been pushing back against China to try to keep them from getting their fingers in everything here and while people claim that Russia influenced the last election, why has no one been suspicious of the Chinese? They stand more to gain by allowing and aiding the Democratic candidates to win this election.

Let's also not forget that Trump is not racist. He could care less what your skin color is as long as you work hard and earn your money, not be given a check like most people in this country are happy with.

 

[Duskpire]

Cool, you hate the site. Fine:

here, here, and here

That's a pretty weak argument considering Trump is white. They have no proof. Those are just opinions of celebrities accusing him of being a racist in videos that YOU posted made by someone with the same views. The reason why your argument in that area is weak is that you don't have an official statement or have it in writing of Trump being a racist.

If you haven't realized by now there's been several Presidents that were even BIGGER racists. You'll hate Woodrow Wilson even more as he was a member of the KKK. At least with Woodrow Wilson there was a crap load of proof that he was a racist towards African Americans.

And yes, these are official statements and it's in writing that Wilson is and was a racist, not to mention he was very open about it. So, that makes a big big difference.

Trump doesn't even come close to any of that. All you're presenting to us are back handed comments he's made. That doesn't prove he's a racist at all. Yes, I get it. Trump's an asshole and he has been known to treat people as if they were beneath him. Yes, assholes, they're every where. Yes, it's easy to accuse an asshole of being something they're not.

Woodrow Wilson is best known as the World War I president who earned a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to found the League of Nations. A progressive reformer who fought against monopolies and child labor, he served two terms starting in 1913.

But Wilson was also a segregationist who wrote a history textbook praising the Confederacy and, in particular, the Ku Klux Klan. As president, he rolled back hard-fought economic progress for Black Americans, overseeing the segregation of multiple agencies of the federal government.

https://www.history.com/news/woodrow-wilson-racial-segregation-jim-crow-ku-klux-klan

 

[TopSilver]

I don't want to vote for either of them; but, if you think Biden is a better candidate, you need to do some fact-checking. He literally called an entire race of individuals out if they didn't vote for him; but, he's not racist?

I actually agree with you. Biden seems to be also having issues with a very minor case of Dementia. But no matter how minor it is you can see that from his loss of attention but he may not be fit to be in office after his 8 year term as Obama's vice president.

 

[JoyFreak]

Tbh, I don't follow either but if I had to pick one, I'd say Trump. That is based on how much he's done for the country over the last few years.

 

[Duskpire]

Speaking of racists. Biden gave an official statement and apology on racial slurs that he made towards African Americans and Hispanics. He admitted to it lol.

 

[Prometheus]

After last night's debate, I'm going to be surprised if anyone can vote for Biden. He clearly doesn't have the mental faculties to work on his feet. How can he run a country as the President if he can't even handle a debate?

 

[Duskpire]

After last night's debate, I'm going to be surprised if anyone can vote for Biden. He clearly doesn't have the mental faculties to work on his feet. How can he run a country as the President if he can't even handle a debate?

There's a reason why Biden has lost twice already. If Trump stays in office, this will be the 3rd historic time Biden has lost in a presidential race.

Biden didn't show how he was better and his ideas were horrible. He can't do better than Trump. Biden mostly complained about how Trump was attacking Obama Care. No one wants that monstrosity. Trump fired back saying that Obama Care was stupidly expensive and how no one wants to pay for it. He was right about it. Biden should know that no one, not one person I know in Missouri or Arkansas, wanted Obama Care.

Biden was even more stupid and blamed the COVID-19 deaths on Trump. But Trump says that's on China and he's right. It is China's fault and I believe several countries including Australia are sueing China.

Still, Trump shouldn't have interrupted Biden or the Moderator multiple times. He wasn't very respectful. But still, I don't think that impedes his duties as President. I do feel that Trump has improved the economy while Obama before him made employment at an all time low.

I don't think Biden needs to be president. I do not want a another round of shit like Obama gave us. If Biden becomes president, he'll just cause financial problems for everyone in the US and I don't want that.

 

[Prometheus]

There's a reason why Biden has lost twice already. If Trump stays in office, this will be the 3rd historic time Biden has lost in a presidential race.

Biden didn't show how he was better and his ideas were horrible. He can't do better than Trump. Biden mostly complained about how Trump was attacking Obama Care. No one wants that monstrosity. Trump fired back saying that Obama Care was stupidly expensive and how no one wants to pay for it. He was right about it. Biden should know that no one, not one person I know in Missouri or Arkansas, wanted Obama Care.

Biden was even more stupid and blamed the COVID-19 deaths on Trump. But Trump says that's on China and he's right. It is China's fault and I believe several countries including Australia are sueing China.

Still, Trump shouldn't have interrupted Biden or the Moderator multiple times. He wasn't very respectful. But still, I don't think that impedes his duties as President. I do feel that Trump has improved the economy while Obama before him made employment at an all time low.

I don't think Biden needs to be president. I do not want a another round of shit like Obama gave us. If Biden becomes president, he'll just cause financial problems for everyone in the US and I don't want that.

Trump was only interrupting Biden and the moderator because it was a joint attack against him. Early on, I was curious to know the political affiliation of the moderator and when I saw he was a Democrat, I knew that it wouldn't be a fair and non-biased debate. The moderator proved it time and time again when he would jump in to save Biden.

For example;

Biden was asked who supported him and he struggled to think of a group for an example and the moderator jumped in and chimed an answer to save him.

The moderator is supposed to be impartial and make sure that the debate stays on topic and that each participant is given fair time to answer the questions.

Yes, Biden was insistent on Trump's failure for COVID and the Obamacare, stating that he would be robbing a bunch of impoverished people of the help they need.

Yeah, like all of the illegal immigrants we're already paying for the healthcare of.

 

[Duskpire]

Trump was only interrupting Biden and the moderator because it was a joint attack against. Early on, I was curious to know the political affiliation of the moderator and when I saw he was a Democrat, I knew that it wouldn't be a fair and non-biased debate. The moderator proved it time and time again when he would jump in to save Biden.

For example;

Biden was asked who supported him and he struggled to think of a group for an example and the moderator jumped in and chimed an answer to save him.

The moderator is supposed to be impartial and make sure that the debate stays on topic and that each participant is given fair time to answer the questions.

Now it makes sense. It's almost like Trump was being set up for failure.

 

[Prometheus]

Now it makes sense. It's almost like Trump was being set up for failure.

Who Is Chris Wallace? Fox Anchor, a Registered Democrat, First Asked Trump About Presidential Ambitions in 1988​

Source.

 

[Smokey]

They gave that debate to Biden, because the left gonna left. Chris Wallace is a fucking disgrace, much like Biden he can barely put a sentence together without help.

Pretty sure Biden was wearing an ear piece or some kind of wire through that debate because his answers sounded like they were being fed to him. He isn't that smart or that sharp, ever.

The debate was extremely biased and one-sided. People, you need to wake up if you think Biden is the solution.



Spoiler alert: He isn't, if anything, he's the worst option for America. I mean, unless you want the US to quickly turn into a bankrupt, 3rd world country.

 

[Prometheus]

They gave that debate to Biden, because the left gonna left. Chris Wallace is a fucking disgrace, much like Biden he can barely put a sentence together without help.

Pretty sure Biden was wearing an ear piece or some kind of wire through that debate because his answers sounded like they were being fed to him. He isn't that smart or that sharp, ever.

The debate was extremely biased and one-sided. People, you need to wake up if you think Biden is the solution.



Spoiler alert: He isn't, if anything, he's the worst option for America. I mean, unless you want the US to quickly turn into a bankrupt, 3rd world country.

Welcome to the club man, there's a bunch of us who have tried to explain to people that the Bidens are an extremely corrupt family who have ties to China in the worst way and have no problem dragging the country through the dirt for their own personal gain. I agree on the earpiece. The way he was reciting facts and regurgitating CNN news headlines was kind of obvious.

You could tell Trump wasn't doing the same in the way he worded his responses.

 

[Demon_skeith]

So who is looking forward to the chaos, the madness this week will bring? Going to be hard topping Trump supporting those who run people off the road.

 

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Well it gets to be a big party hype soon with them two old farts

 

[Bizdustry.com]

I'm from the UK, so I won't have to vote for either of them. Well, as much as I would like Trump for another 4 years, I think it's time for a new spirit to be in the Whitehouse. Biden!