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California Cmte Approves Legislation To End Use Of "Redskins" Name
- Thread starter Webster
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Webster,
Nothing I can think of, is a better argument for having a GOOD immigration policy in place!!!
Not sure but I do know our government should not be dictating what is appropriate when naming something. If enough of a free public does not like a name with there wallets and a true majority of a outcry effects that bottom line then that is when real change comes.
True Liberty,
Thanks for the reply (I was beginning to think no one was going to answer that question!)
I tend to agree with your response about government, but for a different reason.. Yes, government should not be dictating what is appropriate when naming football teams or mascots. But my reasoning is this...
I take a philosophical stance on this. (See my siggie
)
There is a proper role for government. Governments are instituted to protect Natural Rights, first and foremost and after that, Political Rights and the means to implement enforcement of same (in that order). And to me that is pretty much the entire list.
For examples (by no means a complete list), for Natural Rights I will just take a page from Jefferson, "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" ("Happiness" and/or "property"), for examples of Political Rights think Citizenship and voting, and for the means to implement enforcement think taxes and fees.
That's it.
So Philosophically, there is a proper role for government, and the laws they pass should be in those areas and those areas alone. Anything else is not a proper role of government.
I have a Natural Right to Freedom, Life and Liberty. If someone is trying to kill me or enslave me, I fully expect government to be there for me. This is a good and right and proper role for the government.
If I am a Black man in Alabama, and they turn me away at the precinct just because of the color of my skin, I fully expect government to be there for me. This is a good and right and proper role for the government.
And to have the ability to enforce same, there has to be somebody there to come to my rescue, the army, the police, the courts, whatever. So I expect I should pay taxes and fees for this (just not as much as I do).
So please to note, the scenario we are discussing does not fall into those areas.
Whatever somebody names their team does NOT infringe upon my Natural or Political Rights!
It might offend me, but it is not good and right and proper for me to change it via my government.
Doesn't matter if it offends just me, or me and 51% of the population. It simply is NOT a proper role of government.
Thanks for the reply (I was beginning to think no one was going to answer that question!
)I tend to agree with your response about government, but for a different reason.. Yes, government should not be dictating what is appropriate when naming football teams or mascots. But my reasoning is this...
I take a philosophical stance on this. (See my siggie
)There is a proper role for government. Governments are instituted to protect Natural Rights, first and foremost and after that, Political Rights and the means to implement enforcement of same (in that order). And to me that is pretty much the entire list.
For examples (by no means a complete list), for Natural Rights I will just take a page from Jefferson, "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" ("Happiness" and/or "property"
), for examples of Political Rights think Citizenship and voting, and for the means to implement enforcement think taxes and fees.That's it.
So Philosophically, there is a proper role for government, and the laws they pass should be in those areas and those areas alone. Anything else is not a proper role of government.
I have a Natural Right to Freedom, Life and Liberty. If someone is trying to kill me or enslave me, I fully expect government to be there for me. This is a good and right and proper role for the government.
If I am a Black man in Alabama, and they turn me away at the precinct just because of the color of my skin, I fully expect government to be there for me. This is a good and right and proper role for the government.
And to have the ability to enforce same, there has to be somebody there to come to my rescue, the army, the police, the courts, whatever. So I expect I should pay taxes and fees for this (just not as much as I do
).So please to note, the scenario we are discussing does not fall into those areas.
Whatever somebody names their team does NOT infringe upon my Natural or Political Rights!
It might offend me, but it is not good and right and proper for me to change it via my government.
Doesn't matter if it offends just me, or me and 51% of the population. It simply is NOT a proper role of government.
True Liberty,
Thanks for the reply (I was beginning to think no one was going to answer that question!
I tend to agree with your response about government, but for a different reason.. Yes, government should not be dictating what is appropriate when naming football teams or mascots. But my reasoning is this...
I take a philosophical stance on this. (See my siggie
There is a proper role for government. Governments are instituted to protect Natural Rights, first and foremost and after that, Political Rights and the means to implement enforcement of same (in that order). And to me that is pretty much the entire list.
For examples (by no means a complete list), for Natural Rights I will just take a page from Jefferson, "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" ("Happiness" and/or "property"
That's it.
So Philosophically, there is a proper role for government, and the laws they pass should be in those areas and those areas alone. Anything else is not a proper role of government.
I have a Natural Right to Freedom, Life and Liberty. If someone is trying to kill me or enslave me, I fully expect government to be there for me. This is a good and right and proper role for the government.
If I am a Black man in Alabama, and they turn me away at the precinct just because of the color of my skin, I fully expect government to be there for me. This is a good and right and proper role for the government.
And to have the ability to enforce same, there has to be somebody there to come to my rescue, the army, the police, the courts, whatever. So I expect I should pay taxes and fees for this (just not as much as I do
So please to note, the scenario we are discussing does not fall into those areas.
Whatever somebody names their team does NOT infringe upon my Natural or Political Rights!
It might offend me, but it is not good and right and proper for me to change it via my government.
Doesn't matter if it offends just me, or me and 51% of the population. It simply is NOT a proper role of government.
Fantastic response! Thank you for posting it.
Thank you for saying so, you are very kind...
And I am not just saying that, I do appreciate it. I have been posting in various places around the internet for years now. So as you might expect, sometimes when I have waxed philosophic about my government...I have gotten a far different response!
So it IS appreciated, thanks...
And I am not just saying that, I do appreciate it. I have been posting in various places around the internet for years now. So as you might expect, sometimes when I have waxed philosophic about my government...I have gotten a far different response!
So it IS appreciated, thanks...
