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Conspiracies

DrLeftover

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Conspiracies, in general, can be a lot of fun to discuss and debate.



But as evidenced by a couple of examples which I'll list in a moment, a complex, multi-phased endeavor, with multiple players, carried out over several days, or even years, is extraordinarily hard to both see through to the end, and to keep secret along the way.



Take for instance the infamous Lincoln Conspiracy and the fates of those involved, most of whom turned on each other once 'the heat' was on. Yes, the attacks were carried out, and two of the 'killers' managed to get out of town, but even those with only minor involvement found themselves coming to trial, such as Dr. Mudd. As to whether some of those convictions were just, we'll let the conspiracy debaters debate that.



Another good example is the D-Day invasion. It was held to be the highest level secret of the war, and yet there is evidence that there were leaks, and coincidences that suggested leaks, such as the 'crossword puzzle'. But even then, even with the German High Command in possession of some of what was going on, in particular, the role of the Resistance, Eisenhower and his team still pulled it off.



On the other side, you have Al Qaeda, who is actively trying to keep their every move secret, and there are reported cases where MI5, the FBI, and various news networks were setting up their posts outside their new command post before the terrorists themselves knew where they were moving to due to reports from moles and wiretaps.



It would be unlikely to the point of being improbable that any group can 'keep the lid' on anything with more than a few players for more than a few days. Even the feared Illuminati would have 'leaks' over time. Somebody would talk. Such is the case with real world groups such as the Masonic Lodge and the Church of Scientology who find some of their 'secret' documents out in the wild where they cannot pull them back.



Especially now with the Internet at everybody's fingertips. And here shall stand Wikileaks as the lead example.



Have there Been, Are there Now, Will there Be- Vast Right Wing Conspiracies (to use a worn out phrase). Yes.



But remember, the Best conspiracy is the one that is never even suspected.
 
+all hearing ear said:
Human Beings are growing wiser as well as their technology and science, that can prove and/or disprove key things...





Oh?



(turn your speakers on, the clip is from a radio show)



[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CI8UPHMzZm8[/media]



audio clip from Y94 Playhouse Fargo, ND radio station
 
I've dealt with similar individuals over the years.



Most recently one gentleman didn't understand that when he disconnected his office's land line telephone that he also disconnected his voice mailbox and all of his saved messages went away.



My wife relayed the story about a lady shopper who came to my wife's register with a one hundred dollar gift card that she had already made at least one purchase with, and to which she admitted, but she expected it to still have $100 on it.





Like the man said.......



A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

Agent K

Men In Black, 1997, Columbia Pictures.
 
Ah yes, that's a good quote.

DrLeftover said:
Most recently one gentleman didn't understand that when he disconnected his office's land line telephone that he also disconnected his voice mailbox and all of his saved messages went away.
Aren't those messages saved on the machine?
 
DrLeftover said:
Not when the machine is a Phone Company server based in another state.
I suppose not. Didn't know such a service existed...
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Just a point of information.....



Most 'POTS' (Plain Old Telephone Service) is now in fact VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) based. Which means that services offered by the various 'Bells' and their local incarnations are now dirt cheap, for them at least, and carried in the 'Cloud'. So while the dial tone to your house may be 'traditional' once your call to order a pizza hits the Central Office, it is translated into Digital and dropped onto a Fiber circuit, the switching may be done in another city, or even another state, then routed back to the pizza shop on the corner over fiber, then sent to the pizza shop so they can send you a hot Italian Sausage pizza with two different cheeses instead of the Vegetarian Delight you ordered.



The same holds true for Cellular and, of course, IP services like Magic Jack and Cable.



In case you want to see more on the subject: http://themediadesk....files3/voip.htm
 

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