Corporal punishment

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

What is corporal punishment? The National Association of School Nurses defines it as “the intentional infliction of physical pain as a method of changing behavior. It may include methods such as hitting, slapping, punching, kicking, pinching, shaking, use of various objects (paddles, belts, sticks, or others), or painful body postures.



Corporal punishment is still legal in several places throughout the world. Maps here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment



Do you think should be illegal? Is it perfectly acceptable for schools (or wherever else) to use corporal punishment?

 

[Psychognosis]

Not in schools. Is it a good idea for kids who are our future to believe since they were beat in school they can do it to others??

 

[Evil Eye]

Illegal here.

You do NOT, ever for any reason, lay your hands on my kid in violence. Period. End of sentence. Next question please. What happens to you afterward will not be a memorable or pleasant experience; you can bank on that. Don't touch my kid. EVER.

You're awesome.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

I believe that corporal punishiment is alright for the parents to use (if they decide to use it.. There is other ways of discipline) but not anyone else. If anyone ever struck my child I'd do whatever they did to my child back to them.. Only harder and repeatedly. While doing it I will say HOW YOU LIKE IT? HUH? HOW DO YOU F**KING LIKE IT?!?!?!

 

[Evil Eye]

You're pretty ok yourself, Evil!!

(And thanks.)

Thanks.

While doing it I will say HOW YOU LIKE IT? HUH? HOW DO YOU F**KING LIKE IT?!?!?!

Very cute, -edit-.

 

[Masri]

Only the parents should have the right to corporal punishment, and only for discipline. If it's not your child, you should not have the right to beat them.

 

[Masri]

It's still not alright to beat and abuse your child(ren) to a certain extent though...



That's why there's laws that are in effect to protect the children...

Yeah, I know, I meant that but kinda forgot to put it in the post... oops, lol.

 

[Bluezone777]

Not really for it because it teaches children that violence is an acceptable answer to life's problems and that's no lesson I would want to teach any child.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

Not really for it because it teaches children that violence is an acceptable answer to life's problems and that's no lesson I would want to teach any child.

If that were true just about everyone who was ever spanked as a child would be a violent maniac.

I dont think it teaches the children that at all. All it really does is teach the children that there is consequences for their actions. However, I dont trust people and how I do I know they are not going overboard with their punishments?

The only person who should be able to administer that type of discipline is the parents.

 

[Bluezone777]

While that is true, it does make some people violent and besides it don't teach the child to respect the parent but only to fear them. How does being the parent make you any better at knowing what is excessive? Most people hardly know their own strength so I doubt solely being the parent makes you any better at it.



There is a fine line between respect and fear and most don't see where that line is. Besides, the only thing you gain from fear is a child who doesn't see you as a person to talk to about anything. You wind up avoiding them instead of using them to ask for advice on things. This leads to making rather dumb choices because the child had no parent to turn to when in need of advice because they are afraid of them.



The only thing you need to do is set firm boundaries, actually follow your own rules so you don't sound like a hypocrite



Most parents discourage honesty and in fact encourage them to lie because they punish them for the things they did wrong and openly said they did. I rather they be honest about what they did so we can teach what is the right way to do things then feel the need to punish them for it which only enforces the notion that being honesty with people is bad and gets you punished. Most don't teach the lessons that they need to learn and let other people and influences teach the wrong things and then try to put in the right way after being shown how not to be. A lot of things in life that make us feel good are not good things to be doing so it's not easy to break habits once they form. You are better off never allowing the habit to form instead of trying to get a child to break nasty habits that they pick up because of lack of guidance.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

Different things work for different kids. Some kids (like mine) need a stern talking to and loss of privileges (no tv, favorite toy taken away, etc etc) but others (like I was), none of that stuff is effective and the message needs to be put across in a different way. The kids are not afraid of their parents. They are afraid of doing bad things because there will be consequences. Wether it be no tv or a spanking. The parent is instilling values into the child. Teaching them that there is consequences for doing bad things and giving them a sense of right and wrong.



The only time the child is afraid of their parents is when they are being abused and they need to notify someone about it.



Anyways getting back to the point, I am not for corporal punishment but I'm all for parents taking the right steps to ensure they have a well behaved / disciplined / well rounded child. All the hippie BS in the world isn't going to instill morals & a sense of right and wrong into a child. If anything it will produce a child who is constantly testing their limits and see how far they can push it.. pretty much until they are an out of control teen on the Maury show going to boot camp.

 

[Corleone]

Corporal punishment worked for me growing up. Whenever I was really bad, my dad would get the belt and all he had to do was threaten me with it and I knew that I'd either straighten up then and there, or I was going to get whipped.



Today, I'm fine. Make straight A's, obey my parents, and don't cause or get into trouble. Why? Because my parents taught me discipline, not to beat my children for no apparent cause so they'll do the same when they get older.



There's abusive parents out there, but that's a completely different argument.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

Corporal punishment worked for me growing up. Whenever I was really bad, my dad would get the belt and all he had to do was threaten me with it and I knew that I'd either straighten up then and there, or I was going to get whipped.



Today, I'm fine. Make straight A's, obey my parents, and don't cause or get into trouble. Why? Because my parents taught me discipline, not to beat my children for no apparent cause so they'll do the same when they get older.



There's abusive parents out there, but that's a completely different argument.

Thanks for proving my point.

 

[Raven]

I believe that corporal punishiment is alright for the parents to use (if they decide to use it.. There is other ways of discipline) but not anyone else. If anyone ever struck my child I'd do whatever they did to my child back to them.. Only harder and repeatedly. While doing it I will say HOW YOU LIKE IT? HUH? HOW DO YOU F**KING LIKE IT?!?!?!

If I ever had kids, I would be the same.

 

[xneseyx]

ok, this is something I heard about:

one woman's child was having a temper tantrum in the parking lot, so the mother spanked her child. with her hand, once. another woman saw this and charged the mother with assault. we do need discipline, or else we'll all go to hell in a hand basket. there needs to be corporal punishment. teachers shouldn't be allowed unless maybe it's a teenager who has decided he is going to beat upon said teacher. but they can't be allowed with kids.