Fake Democracy

[Naiwen]

But when imagination is executed it then becomes REAL!

So yes, ideologies are indeed "ideal" (idealism) but when the idealism is then put in practice (executed, run) it immediately become real...

Really, is democracy truly there (100% practiced in "democratical" countries)? No, so it's still fake and an "ideal", just like many other ideologies. So yes, political ideals aren't real, they're just an illusion and any political ideal can lead to corruption, fake ideology... and etc...

 

[wirelessguru1]

But again, democracy is not truly there because the ruling elites are deliberately running a slavery system...

In other words, the ruling elites are deliberately misleading the sheeople...

 

[Naiwen]

But again, democracy is not truly there because the ruling elites are deliberately running a slavery system...

In other words, the ruling elites are deliberately misleading the sheeople...

yep like in every other political system (meant to deceive, to exploit it's people), imagined by us humans, so therefore democracy is fake too.

 

[wirelessguru1]

No. You are missing the point that the sheeople (99%) are being deliberately mislead by the ruling elites (1%). So the ruling elites are deliberately not executing the idealism but rather running a global debt-based slavery system!!

 

[Naiwen]

No. You are missing the point that the sheeople (99%) are being deliberately mislead by the ruling elites (1%). So the ruling elites are deliberately not executing the idealism but rather running a global debt-based slavery system!!

Yep. Exactly my point too, just another way to say it.

 

[wirelessguru1]

yep like in every other political system (meant to deceive, to exploit it's people), imagined by us humans, so therefore democracy is fake too.

Look, in reality (vs. idealism) every political system is designed for and executed by the ruling elites (Lords) and not for or by the sheeople (servants & slaves)...

 

[Naiwen]

yep like in every other political system (meant to deceive, to exploit it's people), imagined by us humans, so therefore democracy is fake too.

Look, in reality (vs. idealism) every political system is designed for and executed by the ruling elites (Lords) and not for or by the sheeople (servants & slaves)...

And, I agreed with this...? I just said it another way, to confirm with you.

 

[wirelessguru1]

Yep. Exactly my point too, just another way to say it.

But your point was that the political systems are fake and in reality they are not fake. They are deliberately run (executed) the way that they are in order to mislead the sheeople.

So they deliberately sell a dream to the sheeople (since it becomes a nightmare to most), so it is the dream that it is fake and not the system itself...

 

[wirelessguru1]

And, I agreed with this...? I just said it another way, to confirm with you.

Well, it is very important to understand the difference between the dream (imagination, ideal) and the reality (code in execution).

+1 (Neo)

 

[Naiwen]

Yep exactly and precisely. So every ideology is a dream, destined to deceive humans or
the people. And it's the politician's job to do it.

 

[Sinon]

In this thread: The English language is altered completely to fit the skewed viewpoint of someone not smart enough to look at a thesaurus.

 

[Naiwen]

In this thread: The English language is altered completely to fit the skewed viewpoint of someone not smart enough to look at a thesaurus.

and someone who's too hurt to debate over an opinion. And to think that an opinion is neither wrong or right (What I'm doing here is to make you all think about a matter of opinion, not to "troll" you.) You're welcome to prove me wrong anytime, Princess. By definition, a democracy=ideology or an ideal political system, which doesn't exist, come to think of it huh?

 

[wirelessguru1]

Yep exactly and precisely. So every ideology is a dream, destined to deceive humans or
the people. And it's the politician's job to do it.

No, no, no! You are twisting it!!! :s

Ideology is indeed being sold as a dream but reality (a slavery system) is what is being executed. So only fools believe in dreams and no wonder they (YOU) are so easily deceived!!!

 

[Sinon]

In this thread: The English language is altered completely to fit the skewed viewpoint of someone not smart enough to look at a thesaurus.

and someone who's too hurt to debate over an opinion. And to think that an opinion is neither wrong or right (What I'm doing here is to make you all think about a matter of opinion, not to "troll" you.) You're welcome to prove me wrong anytime, Princess. But don't call me dumb because you're hurt over a personal opinion.

Your opinion is wrong because you're using the argument incorrectly, lol. Fake doesn't mean what you're using it to mean, so please try learning what you want to say first.

 

[Naiwen]

In this thread: The English language is altered completely to fit the skewed viewpoint of someone not smart enough to look at a thesaurus.

and someone who's too hurt to debate over an opinion. And to think that an opinion is neither wrong or right (What I'm doing here is to make you all think about a matter of opinion, not to "troll" you.) You're welcome to prove me wrong anytime, Princess. But don't call me dumb because you're hurt over a personal opinion.

Your opinion is wrong because you're using the argument incorrectly, lol. Fake doesn't mean what you're using it to mean, so please try learning what you want to say first.

fake can mean that too. What is fakeness? Something made-up by humans or "something that doesn't exist, that isn't real". And my opinion is that "real democracy doesn't exist".

 

[wirelessguru1]

Your opinion is wrong because you're using the argument incorrectly, lol. Fake doesn't mean what you're using it to mean, so please try learning what you want to say first.

If nothing else this thread clearly shows why so many are deceived by politicians. They confuse dreams with reality...

 

[Naiwen]

Your opinion is wrong because you're using the argument incorrectly, lol. Fake doesn't mean what you're using it to mean, so please try learning what you want to say first.

If nothing else this thread clearly shows why so many are deceived by politicians. They confuse dreams with reality...

Yep exactly, you got my point. Even some people are believing these lies now... by them (the politicians) and will simply defend something that doesn't exist and fanatically believing in it.

 

[wirelessguru1]

fake can mean that too. What is fakeness? Something made-up by humans or "something that doesn't exist, that isn't real". And my opinion is that "real democracy doesn't exist".

So what does real (reality) mean (is) to you!!!???
What is real to you?

 

[wirelessguru1]

Yep exactly, you got my point. Even some people are believing these lies now... by them (the politicians) and will simply defend something that doesn't exist and fanatically believing in it.

Interesting that you keep agreeing with me yet we are really (in reality) not in sync yet! LOL!!!

Look, many people believe in lies regardless of politicians...

 

[Naiwen]

Yep exactly, you got my point. Even some people are believing these lies now... by them (the politicians) and will simply defend something that doesn't exist and fanatically believing in it.

Interesting that you keep agreeing with me yet we are really (in reality) not in sync yet! LOL!!!

Look, many people believe in lies regardless of politicians...

Yes, and thats what's really sad and because you can see through their lies.