Florida Woman Jokingly Slaps Man..Man Fatally Shoots Woman In Head

[Webster]

...let me guess: the man was just standing his ground, wasn't he?

A Florida man is facing manslaughter charges for allegedly fatally shooting a woman in the head after she slapped him as a joke.

The Clay County Sheriff’s Office said that witnesses told investigators that 26-year-old Elliott William Orsborn, 26-year-old Jamie Lee Martin and others had been drinking in Martin's garage in Middleburg early Saturday morning, according to The Florida Times-Union.

Orsborn had reportedly been playing with his .22 revolver throughout the night, but the Sheriff’s Office said that he had taken the bullets out earlier in the evening.

Martin's boyfriend asked Orsborn to "just chill" after he said something that upset her.

At some point, Martin "jokingly slapped the defendant across the face," the Clay County Sheriff’s Office said. Witnesses said that Orsborn took the gun out of his shorts pocket and shot Martin in the forehead.

Martin’s boyfriend recalled that Orsborn immediately said that he did not mean to shoot the victim. After a few minutes, Orsborn fled the scene.

Martin was transported to Orange Park Medical Center, where she was pronounced dead.

Authorities later found Orsborn at his home, but he refused to talk to them without first speaking with an attorney. He was arrested on manslaughter charges, and was being held in Clay County Jail. His first court appearance was scheduled for Sunday.

Orsborn pulled a knife on a courtesy officer in 2011, and was convicted of felony aggravated assault. He said at the time that he had as many as seven shots before that incident.(Florida Times-Union)

 

[DrLeftover]

...let me guess: the man was just standing his ground, wasn't he?

No. He was stupid. There is a difference. And with a prior conviction, he stands a good chance of having that charge upgraded to capital murder and taking a long nap in Raiford.

 

[Webster]

...let me guess: the man was just standing his ground, wasn't he?

No. He was stupid. There is a difference. And with a prior conviction, he stands a good chance of having that charge upgraded to capital murder and taking a long nap in Raiford.

Me thinks I was being just a 'wee bit sarcastic there with the question above, Doc..but yeah, I suspect that gentlemen's going to be spending a long time as a guest of the state of Florida...

 

[Dee]

Pulling a gun on someone who jokingly slapped you, even if it wasn't a joke, was a blatant act of unnecessary use of force and a dumb decision on that man's part, drunk or not. I hope he gets the punishment he deserves. He's got a violent criminal past, which doesn't help his chances of getting off easy.

 

[+paradox]

this guy is going down big time, trust me... (;

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

 

[Webster]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

 

[Nebulous]

this guy is going down big time, trust me... (;

Thanks for that stunning revelation.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

 

[Webster]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

 

[+paradox]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

there's justice in the world, but sometimes justice doesn't show it's face due to judges and juries...

 

[+paradox]

this guy is going down big time, trust me... (;

Thanks for that stunning revelation.

+1

wow, great post there...

i'd +1 you for it but nahh...

 

[Webster]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

there's justice in the world, but sometimes justice doesn't show it's face due to judges and juries...

That is so true, Justice...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

 

[+paradox]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!

thanks for the laugh... (;

 

[+paradox]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

 

[Dee]

There's also laws in some states (not sure if this is the case in Florida), where you can be accused of using too much force in order to stop a threat. Meaning that if you use more force than necessary to defend yourself, you could be the one in trouble. In this case, as it appears the woman did not have a deadly weapon, nor did she intend to cause life-threatening injuries or death to him, that he was most definitely in the wrong when he decided that pulling out his gun and shooting her point blank in the head.

If I were a juror in this case, I would definitely vote him guilty of manslaughter, at least. Although it wasn't premeditated, he killed someone when there was no logical reason to do such a thing. He should be punished for taking someone's life. This woman was already unfortunately given the ultimate punishment without any choice.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

Sure if any of that was true. Big difference between being charged and convicted. And no it was not bogus he was in danger for his life

 

[+paradox]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

Sure if any of that was true. Big difference between being charged and convicted. And no it was not bogus he was in danger for his life

how?

go ahead and keep making yourself look like a fool... (;

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Him using the Stand Your Ground law is about as good as him saying aliens made him do it.

Unfortunately, that line of thinking worked for George Zimmerman...I wouldn't be surprised if that dunderhead in the OP didn't try a similar line of thinking.

Except george zimmerman had nothing to do with stand your ground.

No, but if there was justice in this world, he'd be doing time as a guest of the state of Florida...

Both were idiots on how they managed situation but he broke no laws and defended himself.

so let me get this straight, it's not against the law to have or shoot, let alone shoot and kill someone while being a felon? it's not against the law to discharge while under the influence? and so it's also not illegal to shoot someone then run away from the crime scene?

defending himself or stand your ground law is bogus for this case... he wasn't in danger of his life to use excessive and deadly force... but if it was an "accident", he still should get charged...

Sure if any of that was true. Big difference between being charged and convicted. And no it was not bogus he was in danger for his life

how?

go ahead and keep making yourself look like a fool... (;

Your version of fool I am proud to keep doing.

Zimmerman was out of shape against a stronger and in better shape opponent.

Zimmerman was cold cocked.

Zimmerman was on his back while being punched in the face and having his head smashed into the concrete sidewalk.

If thats not a life threatening situation please tell me when it gets to that point.

Anyone who is on there back with someone on top of them should use deadly force.