GERMAN NEWS: Co-Pilot of Germanwings Airbus Was MUSLIM CONVERT’Hero of Islamic State?

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Come on who did not see this coming a mile away!

GERMAN REPORT —HE WAS RADICALIZED!

GERMAN CO-PILOT WAS MUSLIM CONVERT–
— STAYED AT Bremen Mosque

Police have reportedly found an “item of significance” at the apartment of the co-pilot who crashed the Germanwing passenger plane into the Alps this week.
The item was NOT a suicide note.

28-year-old German Andreas Lubitz trained in the Phoenix, Arizona and is pictured here in San Francisco.

A German news website claims Andreas Lubitz was a Muslim convert.
Speisa.com reported:

According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.

Translation from German:

All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of “radical”, ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he – as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York – received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.

Converts are the most important weapon of Islam. Because their resume do not suggests that they often are particularly violent Muslims. Thus Germany now has its own 9/11, but in a reduced form. And so it is clear that Islam is a terrorist organization that are in accordance with §129a of the Criminal Code to prohibit it and to investigate its followers. But nothing will happen. One can bet that the apologists (media, politics, “Islamic Scholars”) will agree to assign this an act of a “mentally unstable” man, and you can bet that now, once again the mantra of how supposedly peaceful Islam is will continue. And worse still, the attacks by the left against those who have always warned against Islam, will be angrier and merciless.

For now the German Islam supporters like never before have their backs against the wall.

Michael Mannheimer, 26.3.2015

Apparently from the comments at German PI – Andreas Lubitz was Muslim convert from his Facebook page.

ISLAMIC STATE PRAISES GERMAN CO-PILOT AND MASS MURDERER–
Another Facebook page was set up=> Support for Andrew Lubitz, hero of the Islamic State.
(The Facebook page has since been taken down)

But Pamela Geller captured a screengrab of the page before it was removed.

READ THE REST HERE
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/breaking-german-news-germanwings-airbus-co-pilot-was-muslim-convert/

 

[seasidemike]

I have just looked through a number of European news reports and the only one claiming this is your 'Gateway Pundit' website. There is nothing else in the news saying this.
Perhaps we should wait just a little longer before we start pointing fingers, the facts so far are bad enough without rushing to make them worse.

 

[Jazzy]

Nice Photoshop work!

Hate to blow the OP article out of the water but here are the true facts:

Pilot hid health condition that would have banned flying

The pilot who crashed a plane in the French Alps had received a sick note from doctors showing he suffered a health condition that would have prevented him flying the day of the crash, which he apparently hid from his employer, German prosecutors said.

"Documents with medical contents were confiscated that point towards an existing illness and corresponding treatment by doctors," said the prosecutors' office in Duesseldorf, where the co-pilot lived and where the doomed flight from Barcelona was heading.

"The fact there are sick notes saying he was unable to work, among other things, that were found torn up, which were recent and even from the day of the crime, support the assumption based on the preliminary examination that the deceased hid his illness from his employer and his professional colleagues," the German prosecutors said.

The documents were found in searches of Lubitz's homes in Duesseldorf and in the town of Montabaur in the state of Rhineland-Palatinate.

Reports in German media suggested that Lubitz had suffered from depression in the past, and that his employer would have been aware of his history.

Germany's Bild newspaper reported on Friday that Lubitz had suffered from depression during a period when he broke off his training six years ago. It said he spent over a year in psychiatric treatment.

Bild, citing internal documents forwarded by Lufthansa's Aero Medical Center to German authorities, reported that Lubitz had suffered from depression and anxiety, and had been judged to have suffered a "serious depressive episode" around the time he suspended his training.

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls urged patience on Friday but said the German airline had an obligation to share all information on Lubitz with investigators.

"We must wait for the end of the inquiry. I am careful when there is a judicial inquiry, but everything points to a criminal, mad, suicidal action that we cannot comprehend," Valls told iTELE.

Rest of article

 

[DrLeftover]

More:

Torn-up sick notes show crash pilot should have been grounded

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/27/us-france-crash-idUSKBN0MN11N20150327

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I have just looked through a number of European news reports and the only one claiming this is your 'Gateway Pundit' website.  There is nothing else in the news saying this.
Perhaps we should wait just a little longer before we start pointing fingers, the facts so far are bad enough without rushing to make them worse.

Yes because a politically correct Europe scared to death of putting anything about radical Muslim in out there would never cover up such a thing. And a chronically depressed person is the perfect candidate that they are Looking for to do such a thing.

The Facebook page tells the story.
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More:

Torn-up sick notes show crash pilot should have been grounded

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/27/us-france-crash-idUSKBN0MN11N20150327

It's real no photo shop

 

[seasidemike]

I have just looked through a number of European news reports and the only one claiming this is your 'Gateway Pundit' website.  There is nothing else in the news saying this.
Perhaps we should wait just a little longer before we start pointing fingers, the facts so far are bad enough without rushing to make them worse.

Yes because a politically correct Europe scared to death of putting anything about radical Muslim in out there would never cover up such a thing. And a chronically depressed person is the perfect candidate that they are Looking for to do such a thing.

The Facebook page tells the story.

yaaa.. that's it .. we politically correct Europe.. the same Europe that hold anti-Muslim demonstrations and all... like you have loads of those there in your non-politically correct America right..

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/antimuslim-protests-take-place-in-germany-despite-plea-from-angela-merkel-30885188.html

http://qz.com/340788/the-anti-islamic-far-right-is-spreading-in-europe-and-going-mainstream/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/anti-islam-groups-first-british-march-5107059

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/13/europe/france-anti-muslim-threats/

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I have just looked through a number of European news reports and the only one claiming this is your 'Gateway Pundit' website.  There is nothing else in the news saying this.
Perhaps we should wait just a little longer before we start pointing fingers, the facts so far are bad enough without rushing to make them worse.

Yes because a politically correct Europe scared to death of putting anything about radical Muslim in out there would never cover up such a thing. And a chronically depressed person is the perfect candidate that they are Looking for to do such a thing.

The Facebook page tells the story.

yaaa.. that's it .. we politically correct Europe.. the same Europe that hold anti-Muslim demonstrations and all... like you have loads of those there in your non-politically correct America right..

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/antimuslim-protests-take-place-in-germany-despite-plea-from-angela-merkel-30885188.html

http://qz.com/340788/the-anti-islamic-far-right-is-spreading-in-europe-and-going-mainstream/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/anti-islam-groups-first-british-march-5107059

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/13/europe/france-anti-muslim-threats/

You are talking about the people. This investigation is being handled by the government who controls all info. And this would probably go for America Also. So not sure what all the links are supposed to prove.

 

[seasidemike]

The links prove your wrong about yout views on Europe (again).
Europeans have no problem getting out and taking to the streets and standing up for themselves. Nothing politically correct in those links.
Je suis Charlie

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

The links prove your wrong about yout views on Europe (again).
Europeans have no problem getting out and taking to the streets and standing up for themselves.  Nothing politically correct in those links.
Je suis Charlie

No it doesn't. Again you are talking about the people and I am talking about the government. Europe's government runs everything on political correctness. Hell the attack in Paris proves the people can get past the pc craps.

 

[Dee]

Some more crack pot made-up news about how this man HAD to be a radical Muslim because they are the only one's who use airplanes to terrorize. There is no credible news source telling us that, so I refuse to believe it.

 

[Webster]

Some more crack pot made-up news about how this man HAD to be a radical Muslim because they are the only one's who use airplanes to terrorize. There is no credible news source telling us that, so I refuse to believe it.

I have to agree with Dee on this; at present, there's virtually nothing - depending on your definition of 'nothing' - that says the co-pilot was a Muslim or a secret Muslim or a radical Muslim or whatever; odds are, this was a horrific case of mass murder, not a terrorist act.

Now, that said, we don't know what the German authorities are looking at and it may come out at some point that he did this for terroristic reasons but for now, this appears to be a case where the co-pilot committed an act of mass murder and right now, we have no idea why.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Government officials won't discuss his religion. I am sure that has nothing to do with anything relevant as to why he crashed his plane. Move along! Move along! Nothing to see here!

When a reporter asked French Prosecutor Brice Robin of Marseille, during a news conference Thursday, whether he knew Lubitz’s religion, Robin said he did not know and added, “I don’t think that’s where the answer to this lies.”
The question suggested that Lubitz’s religious background was relevant to the investigation behind the pilot’s alleged deliberate downing of Germanwings Flight 9525 on Tuesday. Robin said the crash did not show any signs of terrorism. Some were appalled by the reporter’s inquiry.
“This line of questioning makes no sense to me whatsoever,” said Elizabeth Shakman Hurd, an associate professor of political science with a courtesy appointment in religious studies at Northwestern University in Illinois. “I find it disturbing and depressing that at a time like this some people feel compelled to search desperately for explanations that presume religious causation.”
Really, Professor Hurd? NO SENSE? It's all just a coincidence?
In 1999, the pilot of a Boeing 767 intentionally plunged the fully loaded plane into the Atlantic Ocean 30 minutes after takeoff from New York City on a nonstop flight to Cairo. An investigation found the pilot, Gamal al-Batouti, had said several times in Arabic, “I rely on God,” as the plane's autopilot function was disconnected and Egypt Air 999 plunged. The phrase is often associated with the moments before death.

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.de/2015/03/gee-do-you-think-this-is-relevant.html

 

[Dee]

Government officials won't discuss his religion. I am sure that has nothing to do with anything relevant as to why he crashed his plane. Move along! Move along! Nothing to see here!

When a reporter asked French Prosecutor Brice Robin of Marseille, during a news conference Thursday, whether he knew Lubitz’s religion, Robin said he did not know and added, “I don’t think that’s where the answer to this lies.”
The question suggested that Lubitz’s religious background was relevant to the investigation behind the pilot’s alleged deliberate downing of Germanwings Flight 9525 on Tuesday. Robin said the crash did not show any signs of terrorism. Some were appalled by the reporter’s inquiry.
“This line of questioning makes no sense to me whatsoever,” said Elizabeth Shakman Hurd, an associate professor of political science with a courtesy appointment in religious studies at Northwestern University in Illinois. “I find it disturbing and depressing that at a time like this some people feel compelled to search desperately for explanations that presume religious causation.”
Really, Professor Hurd? NO SENSE? It's all just a coincidence?
In 1999, the pilot of a Boeing 767 intentionally plunged the fully loaded plane into the Atlantic Ocean 30 minutes after takeoff from New York City on a nonstop flight to Cairo. An investigation found the pilot, Gamal al-Batouti, had said several times in Arabic, “I rely on God,” as the plane's autopilot function was disconnected and Egypt Air 999 plunged. The phrase is often associated with the moments before death.

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.de/2015/03/gee-do-you-think-this-is-relevant.html

That may have been the case in that situation, but it appears it is not the case here as far as we know. Knowing pilots, I have been told that any sort of mental condition, and many physical medical conditions can make it impossible for a pilot to get up in the skies if it is documented and reported to the airline.  This causes a LOT of stress on the pilot as that is their livelihood and something they quite enjoy (for the most part, I don't know all pilots).  It can cause a lot of stress if they can't do their job, and in this case--depending on what the doctor's note was all about--it could've meant the end of his career.  But until they thoroughly uncover things about this man, it is ridiculous to go and make wild accusations about a man's religion and intent to do what he did when there is no solid evidence pointing toward it. 

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Government officials won't discuss his religion. I am sure that has nothing to do with anything relevant as to why he crashed his plane. Move along! Move along! Nothing to see here!

When a reporter asked French Prosecutor Brice Robin of Marseille, during a news conference Thursday, whether he knew Lubitz’s religion, Robin said he did not know and added, “I don’t think that’s where the answer to this lies.”
The question suggested that Lubitz’s religious background was relevant to the investigation behind the pilot’s alleged deliberate downing of Germanwings Flight 9525 on Tuesday. Robin said the crash did not show any signs of terrorism. Some were appalled by the reporter’s inquiry.
“This line of questioning makes no sense to me whatsoever,” said Elizabeth Shakman Hurd, an associate professor of political science with a courtesy appointment in religious studies at Northwestern University in Illinois. “I find it disturbing and depressing that at a time like this some people feel compelled to search desperately for explanations that presume religious causation.”
Really, Professor Hurd? NO SENSE? It's all just a coincidence?
In 1999, the pilot of a Boeing 767 intentionally plunged the fully loaded plane into the Atlantic Ocean 30 minutes after takeoff from New York City on a nonstop flight to Cairo. An investigation found the pilot, Gamal al-Batouti, had said several times in Arabic, “I rely on God,” as the plane's autopilot function was disconnected and Egypt Air 999 plunged. The phrase is often associated with the moments before death.

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.de/2015/03/gee-do-you-think-this-is-relevant.html

That may have been the case in that situation, but it appears it is not the case here as far as we know. Knowing pilots, I have been told that any sort of mental condition, and many physical medical conditions can make it impossible for a pilot to get up in the skies if it is documented and reported to the airline.  This causes a LOT of stress on the pilot as that is their livelihood and something they quite enjoy (for the most part, I don't know all pilots).  It can cause a lot of stress if they can't do their job, and in this case--depending on what the doctor's note was all about--it could've meant the end of his career.  But until they thoroughly uncover things about this man, it is ridiculous to go and make wild accusations about a man's religion and intent to do what he did when there is no solid evidence pointing toward it. 

Hell it looks like it is very much the case in this situation. But in the coming weeks more will come out. They can only cover up his religion for so long.

 

[Dee]

Government officials won't discuss his religion. I am sure that has nothing to do with anything relevant as to why he crashed his plane. Move along! Move along! Nothing to see here!

When a reporter asked French Prosecutor Brice Robin of Marseille, during a news conference Thursday, whether he knew Lubitz’s religion, Robin said he did not know and added, “I don’t think that’s where the answer to this lies.”
The question suggested that Lubitz’s religious background was relevant to the investigation behind the pilot’s alleged deliberate downing of Germanwings Flight 9525 on Tuesday. Robin said the crash did not show any signs of terrorism. Some were appalled by the reporter’s inquiry.
“This line of questioning makes no sense to me whatsoever,” said Elizabeth Shakman Hurd, an associate professor of political science with a courtesy appointment in religious studies at Northwestern University in Illinois. “I find it disturbing and depressing that at a time like this some people feel compelled to search desperately for explanations that presume religious causation.”
Really, Professor Hurd? NO SENSE? It's all just a coincidence?
In 1999, the pilot of a Boeing 767 intentionally plunged the fully loaded plane into the Atlantic Ocean 30 minutes after takeoff from New York City on a nonstop flight to Cairo. An investigation found the pilot, Gamal al-Batouti, had said several times in Arabic, “I rely on God,” as the plane's autopilot function was disconnected and Egypt Air 999 plunged. The phrase is often associated with the moments before death.

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.de/2015/03/gee-do-you-think-this-is-relevant.html

That may have been the case in that situation, but it appears it is not the case here as far as we know. Knowing pilots, I have been told that any sort of mental condition, and many physical medical conditions can make it impossible for a pilot to get up in the skies if it is documented and reported to the airline.  This causes a LOT of stress on the pilot as that is their livelihood and something they quite enjoy (for the most part, I don't know all pilots).  It can cause a lot of stress if they can't do their job, and in this case--depending on what the doctor's note was all about--it could've meant the end of his career.  But until they thoroughly uncover things about this man, it is ridiculous to go and make wild accusations about a man's religion and intent to do what he did when there is no solid evidence pointing toward it. 

Hell it looks like it is very much the case in this situation. But in the coming weeks more will come out. They can only cover up his religion for so long.

I just find it hilarious that pathetic that you're so set on the fact that it has to be he was a radical muslim, and that it wasn't the fact that he was being treated for depression and dismissed by his doctor from work but went around and hid the fact and flew anyway. 

 

[Shole]

So false op, indeed the pilot had some mental issues but those weren't related to isis or the muslim faith at all.

 

[Dee]

I was reading a news article from Facebook about the co-pilot being a Muslim convert and the funny thing was the news source was a satirical and fake website with a disclaimer that made it clear the news wasn't real. The comments were real, however, as if they believed every word from this fake news source. I found it to be hilarious that people would take the word of a fake news source as true fact and not even question or do a little more research. It really only took some glancing around the top and bottom of the website to find the disclaimer, then a button-click and voila! Fake.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

And yet nothing will be released about his religion still. If there is nothing there let's hear it about.

 

[Dee]

And yet nothing will be released about his religion still. If there is nothing there let's hear it about.

It's already been made apparent that this is probably the result of something other than his religion. Quite obviously, what they've found has not anything to do with who he worships or what he believes in. And yet it's still very difficult for some people to understand that not everyone does things out of religious motivations.

 

[Jazzy]

The co-pilot of Germanwings Flight 9525 that crashed into the French Alps last week had received treatment for suicidal tendencies several years ago, prosecutors said Monday.

Duesseldorf prosecutors say co-pilot Andreas Lubitz, 27, had received psychotherapy "with a note about suicidal tendencies" for several years before becoming a pilot.

The crash has prompted wide-ranging questions about Lubitz's motivation, his mindset, aviation industry regulations — and in the minds of the flying public, concerns about air travel safety.

Lufthansa, asked whether the airline had been aware of Lubitz's previous psychotherapy treatment, said only that all medical information is subject to medical confidentiality rules.

German aviation officials say Lubitz's file at the country's Federal Aviation Office contained a notation that meant he needed "specific regular medical examination," but it did not specify whether it was for a physical or mental condition.

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