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History Of The Israeli Palestinian Conflict

my thoughts are its a good job tommy isnt still here ...we would never hear the end of it :lol2:
 
it only proves further that the palestinians were there in PALESTINE first and that their land were stolen from them...

end of story...
 
+freezy said:
it only proves further that the palestinians were there in PALESTINE first and that their land were stolen from them...

end of story...

It is amazing, the entire middle east was all carved up by the superpowers after WW1 when they toof apart the Ottoman empire.
New countries were created all over the place and borders drawn up to so that the superpowers could keep control of the Middle East and the oil.
The partitioning continued after WW2
Kuwait was a province of Iraq, until 1961 when the UK made it an independent country.
Quatar did not become a country until 1971
UAE also became a country in 1971
Yamen not until 1990

the entire middle east. like most of Africa has unnatural borders carved up and divided by the superpowers based on how they it best suited the UK, France, Russia and the USA.

One of those countries created was Israel.
Deal with it.
The entire world went to war against Iraq when they decided to take back the province which was partitioned from them, yet everyone bitches and moans about the Israel like they are the only country there that was 'stolen' or 'set up'.

The entire Middle East was created.. which is why it is the objective of ISIS to reinstate the Caliphate, which is basically the original orderless pre-WW1 territories.
 
deal with it?

then deal with the arab countries not wanting israel to be a state, and let them deal with it and not america, if any other country want to help who ever over there then they need to do it with their own blood, sweat and tears, but no more from americans!
 
+freezy said:
deal with it?

then deal with the arab countries not wanting israel to be a state, and let them deal with it and not america, if any other country want to help who ever over there then they need to do it with their own blood, sweat and tears, but no more from americans!

you mean like the way the whole world went to war with Iraq because they wanted their port back which was taken off of them when Kuwait was made a country?

I agree, the rest of the world should stay out of all of it and let them all fight it out among themselves, not just Israel.
They would all kill each other off, not just the Jews but Sunni, the Shiites all of them. the only problem is that it would end up with who ever would be left alive it could result in the Ottoman Empire back and that is not in the interest of the superpowers.
 
seasidemike said:
+freezy said:
deal with it?

then deal with the arab countries not wanting israel to be a state, and let them deal with it and not america, if any other country want to help who ever over there then they need to do it with their own blood, sweat and tears, but no more from americans!

you mean like the way the whole world went to war with Iraq because they wanted their port back which was taken off of them when Kuwait was made a country?

I agree, the rest of the world should stay out of all of it and let them all fight it out among themselves, not just Israel.
They would all kill each other off, not just the Jews but Sunni, the Shiites all of them. the only problem is that it would end up with who ever would be left alive it could result in the Ottoman Empire back and that is not in the interest of the superpowers.


but they can deal with it, like you said...



and comparing the palestinian / israeli conflict with any other conflict is just like comparing apples and oranges with potatoes and beans...
 
+freezy said:
seasidemike said:
+freezy said:
deal with it?

then deal with the arab countries not wanting israel to be a state, and let them deal with it and not america, if any other country want to help who ever over there then they need to do it with their own blood, sweat and tears, but no more from americans!

you mean like the way the whole world went to war with Iraq because they wanted their port back which was taken off of them when Kuwait was made a country?

I agree, the rest of the world should stay out of all of it and let them all fight it out among themselves, not just Israel.
They would all kill each other off, not just the Jews but Sunni, the Shiites all of them. the only problem is that it would end up with who ever would be left alive it could result in the Ottoman Empire back and that is not in the interest of the superpowers.


but they can deal with it, like you said...



and comparing the palestinian / israeli conflict with any other conflict is just like comparing apples and oranges with potatoes and beans...

why cause it involves Jews???

How strong would the Saudi monarchy be without US backing?
 
seasidemike said:
+freezy said:
seasidemike said:
+freezy said:
deal with it?

then deal with the arab countries not wanting israel to be a state, and let them deal with it and not america, if any other country want to help who ever over there then they need to do it with their own blood, sweat and tears, but no more from americans!

you mean like the way the whole world went to war with Iraq because they wanted their port back which was taken off of them when Kuwait was made a country?

I agree, the rest of the world should stay out of all of it and let them all fight it out among themselves, not just Israel.
They would all kill each other off, not just the Jews but Sunni, the Shiites all of them. the only problem is that it would end up with who ever would be left alive it could result in the Ottoman Empire back and that is not in the interest of the superpowers.


but they can deal with it, like you said...



and comparing the palestinian / israeli conflict with any other conflict is just like comparing apples and oranges with potatoes and beans...

why cause it involves Jews???

How strong would the Saudi monarchy be without US backing?


no, if it was america or china that took the land of the palestinians, i'd have the same opinion...

not sure, what does that have to do with palestine?
 
seasidemike said:
+freezy said:
it only proves further that the palestinians were there in PALESTINE first and that their land were stolen from them...

end of story...

It is amazing, the entire middle east was all carved up by the superpowers after WW1 when they toof apart the Ottoman empire.
New countries were created all over the place and borders drawn up to so that the superpowers could keep control of the Middle East and the oil.
The partitioning continued after WW2
Kuwait was a province of Iraq, until 1961 when the UK made it an independent country.
Quatar did not become a country until 1971
UAE also became a country in 1971
Yamen not until 1990

the entire middle east. like most of Africa has unnatural borders carved up and divided by the superpowers based on how they it best suited the UK, France, Russia and the USA.

One of those countries created was Israel.
Deal with it.
The entire world went to war against Iraq when they decided to take back the province which was partitioned from them, yet everyone bitches and moans about the Israel like they are the only country there that was 'stolen' or 'set up'.

The entire Middle East was created.. which is why it is the objective of ISIS to reinstate the Caliphate, which is basically the original orderless pre-WW1 territories.

*looks over towards Mike, then back over towards Freezy* Mike's got a point there; what matters in the Middle East isn't so much national borders (though those do still matter) as does tribal & ethnic allegiances..allegiances that got carved all to hell thanks to the post-WW1 view of the world... :ohmy:
 
Webster said:
seasidemike said:
+freezy said:
it only proves further that the palestinians were there in PALESTINE first and that their land were stolen from them...

end of story...

It is amazing, the entire middle east was all carved up by the superpowers after WW1 when they toof apart the Ottoman empire.
New countries were created all over the place and borders drawn up to so that the superpowers could keep control of the Middle East and the oil.
The partitioning continued after WW2
Kuwait was a province of Iraq, until 1961 when the UK made it an independent country.
Quatar did not become a country until 1971
UAE also became a country in 1971
Yamen not until 1990

the entire middle east. like most of Africa has unnatural borders carved up and divided by the superpowers based on how they it best suited the UK, France, Russia and the USA.

One of those countries created was Israel.
Deal with it.
The entire world went to war against Iraq when they decided to take back the province which was partitioned from them, yet everyone bitches and moans about the Israel like they are the only country there that was 'stolen' or 'set up'.  

The entire Middle East was created.. which is why it is the objective of ISIS to reinstate the Caliphate, which is basically the original orderless pre-WW1 territories.

*looks over towards Mike, then back over towards Freezy* Mike's got a point there; what matters in the Middle East isn't so much national borders (though those do still matter) as does tribal & ethnic allegiances..allegiances that got carved all to hell thanks to the post-WW1 view of the world... :ohmy:

why do you assume that i don't know my history? :P
 
+freezy said:
Webster said:
seasidemike said:
+freezy said:
it only proves further that the palestinians were there in PALESTINE first and that their land were stolen from them...

end of story...

It is amazing, the entire middle east was all carved up by the superpowers after WW1 when they toof apart the Ottoman empire.
New countries were created all over the place and borders drawn up to so that the superpowers could keep control of the Middle East and the oil.
The partitioning continued after WW2
Kuwait was a province of Iraq, until 1961 when the UK made it an independent country.
Quatar did not become a country until 1971
UAE also became a country in 1971
Yamen not until 1990

the entire middle east. like most of Africa has unnatural borders carved up and divided by the superpowers based on how they it best suited the UK, France, Russia and the USA.

One of those countries created was Israel.
Deal with it.
The entire world went to war against Iraq when they decided to take back the province which was partitioned from them, yet everyone bitches and moans about the Israel like they are the only country there that was 'stolen' or 'set up'.  

The entire Middle East was created.. which is why it is the objective of ISIS to reinstate the Caliphate, which is basically the original orderless pre-WW1 territories.

*looks over towards Mike, then back over towards Freezy* Mike's got a point there; what matters in the Middle East isn't so much national borders (though those do still matter) as does tribal & ethnic allegiances..allegiances that got carved all to hell thanks to the post-WW1 view of the world... :ohmy:


why do you assume that i don't know my history? :P

It is not assumed you do not know your history it is just that your view of history is tainted my your dislike of Jewish people.
 
seasidemike said:
+freezy said:
Webster said:
seasidemike said:
+freezy said:
it only proves further that the palestinians were there in PALESTINE first and that their land were stolen from them...

end of story...

It is amazing, the entire middle east was all carved up by the superpowers after WW1 when they toof apart the Ottoman empire.
New countries were created all over the place and borders drawn up to so that the superpowers could keep control of the Middle East and the oil.
The partitioning continued after WW2
Kuwait was a province of Iraq, until 1961 when the UK made it an independent country.
Quatar did not become a country until 1971
UAE also became a country in 1971
Yamen not until 1990

the entire middle east. like most of Africa has unnatural borders carved up and divided by the superpowers based on how they it best suited the UK, France, Russia and the USA.

One of those countries created was Israel.
Deal with it.
The entire world went to war against Iraq when they decided to take back the province which was partitioned from them, yet everyone bitches and moans about the Israel like they are the only country there that was 'stolen' or 'set up'.  

The entire Middle East was created.. which is why it is the objective of ISIS to reinstate the Caliphate, which is basically the original orderless pre-WW1 territories.

*looks over towards Mike, then back over towards Freezy* Mike's got a point there; what matters in the Middle East isn't so much national borders (though those do still matter) as does tribal & ethnic allegiances..allegiances that got carved all to hell thanks to the post-WW1 view of the world... :ohmy:


why do you assume that i don't know my history? :P

It is not assumed you do not know your history it is just that your view of history is tainted my your dislike of Jewish people.


no, i don't dislike or hate the jewish people...

i do dislike the zionist movement and how deceiving and greedy they are, and how the zionist generals are liars and murderers... there's a big difference...

just like i dislike the extremest islamists that are out there killing, but i don't dislike all musims because of it... a dislike the greedy and wrong-doers of the american government and politicians that are hijacking this country from the 'we the people', but i don't dislike all americans because of it...
 
This. It's clear Freezy does not hate Jews or Judaism. He, like myself, and other Muslims (yes, Muslims do not hate Jews) hate the Zionists and the Zionist lobby that is to this day killing children!
Yes, they did steal the land. I don't care who drew up the borders, I also do not care who's best interests they were in - because there was certainly no regard for the population already living on the land.

Murder is murder. Ethnic cleansing is ethnic cleansing.
I don't care who's 'purpose it serves' and nor should you.

These are human lives, as fragile as your own.
These are children, as precious as our own.

Get.a.clue!
 
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