Hotel owner facing gay boycott runs op-ed.

[DrLeftover]

Gay Extremists Must Not Silence Those Who Support Discussion and Dialogue

Since hosting a discussion with Texas Senator Ted Cruz in my home, I have been inundated with hateful, biased social media messages, and attacks from gay extremists (do I dare say the word?) who demand inclusion, but do not believe in dialogue. I know in my heart that these attacks do not represent the rich culture and diversity of the gay community. Yet, in our community, as in so many others, the most vocal often dominate the conversation. I hope this op-ed will help heal wounds and continue necessary progress and discussion.

It is amazing that my businesses are being boycotted by some because I hosted a discussion with an elected official. Not a fundraiser. Not an endorsement. A dialogue. What would we say if the Jewish community organized a boycott of a business leader who hosted a private discussion with an important Muslim politician? We know the answer. I am a longtime leader of my community – and proud of who I am and what I have accomplished.

Boycotting me for a discussion? Since when have we grown so small and intolerant?

http://observer.com/2015/05/gay-ext...ce-those-who-support-discussion-and-dialogue/

 

[Nebulous]

When you run a business, you should avoid alienating anyone who might be one of your customers I guess.

 

[Streller]

When you run a business, you should avoid alienating anyone who might be one of your customers I guess.

I agree.

If boycotting is the only way to get a message through, let it be the only way to get through.

 

[DrLeftover]

In case you missed the prior story.

The owners of the hotel ARE male homosexuals and gay activists, they had a discussion with Mr. Cruz, and now are being threatened and 'boycotted' by their own gay community, who is evidently threatened by people having a civil conversation.

 

[Streller]

In case you missed the prior story.

The owners of the hotel ARE male homosexuals and gay activists, they had a discussion with Mr. Cruz, and now are being threatened and 'boycotted' by their own gay community, who is evidently threatened by people having a civil conversation.

Excuse my ignorance, I didn't read the story and presumed that the hotel owner had been homophobic, thank-you for enlightening me.

 

[Nebulous]

In case you missed the prior story.

The owners of the hotel ARE male homosexuals and gay activists, they had a discussion with Mr. Cruz, and now are being threatened and 'boycotted' by their own gay community, who is evidently threatened by people having a civil conversation.

Either way... What I said still stands.

 

[+paradox]

In case you missed the prior story.

The owners of the hotel ARE male homosexuals and gay activists, they had a discussion with Mr. Cruz, and now are being threatened and 'boycotted' by their own gay community, who is evidently threatened by people having a civil conversation.

then why did you create a new thread for the same thing?

and why does this matter so much to you @DrLeftover?

who cares if a group of people or some people are boycotting a business for whatever the reason(s) are?

 

[DrLeftover]

I just find it interesting that The Movement feels that threatened by somebody on the inside having a conversation with the opposition.

The only difference between that and The Caliphate, is if it happened over there, say, an Imam was seen talking to a Christian, they'd both be dead, charged and executed for Apostasy.

Also, I created a new thread because I was in a hurry and couldn't find the old one quickly. If you locate it, let an Admin know and ask them to merge it.

 

[Webster]

*reads the article in the opening post* Once again, the Gay Activist Wing of the Deluded Left gets themselves all riled up 'cause someone dared to stray from the plantation...

 

[+paradox]

again, grouping everyone up into a large group when clearly not everyone thinks that way or is boycotting said business...

you never learn...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

*reads the article in the opening post* Once again, the Gay Activist Wing of the Deluded Left gets themselves all riled up 'cause someone dared to stray from the plantation...

Bingo! God I can't tell you how much my unadulterated hatred of everything left grows on a daily basis. If it was just the boycotts thats fine if they want to do it because he had a conversation with a man that they do not like. It is the high number of death threats coming at him. And since it has been the left coming out of the woodwork with high profile shootings these last couple of years he should be worried about some loon wanting to kill him. And I do believe he is going to be on the Glen Beck show some time soon. I can just see these crazies sharpening there knives as we speak hearing the words Glenn Beck.

 

[+paradox]

Bingo! God I can't tell you how much my unadulterated hatred of everything left grows on a daily basis. If it was just the boycotts thats fine if they want to do it because he had a conversation with a man that they do not like. It is the high number of death threats coming at him. And since it has been the left coming out of the woodwork with high profile shootings these last couple of years he should be worried about some loon wanting to kill him. And I do believe he is going to be on the Glen Beck show some time soon. I can just see these crazies sharpening there knives as we speak hearing the words Glenn Beck.

i agree, it's not okay to threaten people like that... which is against the law, and therefor you have no free speech right to say in words of things such as threatening a life or lives... and justice should be served for the few that has, right?

but everyone does this, and you act like only the crazy left people does it, which to be truthful, you're just trying to fool yourself with nonsense and half-truths, and at times just plain made up stuff you try to pass as facts...

grouping and announcing that the 'insert group here' does that because one of them did it so them all must do it...

but yet you don't remember that i can do the same about conservatives, and any other group of people like it's nothing like you try to do here...

so now, you don't care about them boycotting, because lets get serious here, who really cares?

that's out of the way, so lets now get into the few that threatened lives, should they be searched for? possibly... will people get caught and arrested? not sure...

anything else about this story you want to blow up and discuss?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

i agree, it's not okay to threaten people like that... which is against the law, and therefor you have no free speech right to say in words of things such as threatening a life or lives... and justice should be served for the few that has, right?

Well I think all words even death threats should be legal to say. But in that same token the people who write them should expect no protection when the receiver acts on those threats that there lives are in danger.

but everyone does this,

Threats, yes but the scale is broken on who the overwhelming majority is.

and you act like only the crazy left people does it, which to be truthful, you're just trying to fool yourself with nonsense and half-truths, and at times just plain made up stuff you try to pass as facts...


Sorry but since the 1960s the left owns outright political violence hands down no competition they are so far ahead of any other group in America. If you believe in a leftist idea you support there violent agenda that suppresses right on every level of your life. It is why the left loved and made excuses for the communist movement in the 70s and 80s. And it is why they make excuses for violent Islam and non violent Islam that has hundreds of million of women in slavery.

Left should mean violence because from the shooters in the last few years going nuts even though they try to blame it on the right after each incident.

• Neo-nazi James von Brunn, the US Holocaust Museum shooter, June 2009, has been labelled a "right-wing" terrorist, and no doubt many vaguely think of him as a "Christian" terrorist.
  • In fact, he could just as easily be called a "left-wing" terrorist: He hated Israel, opposed the Iraq War, thought 9/11 was an inside job, hated Fox News, hated neo-cons, hated Bush and McCain, and finally he hated Christianity, and said he was a socialist (the Nazis were collectivists).
  • He referred to "the insane teachings of Jesus", and said the gospels are: "stuffed with lies, miracles, guilt trips, betrayal, virgin birth, eternal damnation, salvation - a scenario appealing to the superstitious, vulnerable, ignorant yearning sheep - he named his hoax "Christianity." ... "Christianity" destroyed Roman Civilization." So he is not a Christian terrorist.
  
  
  
• Austin tax office suicide attack in Feb 2010, has been labelled a "right-wing" terrorist.
  • But he is a strange sort of "right-winger", one who hates George W. Bush, capitalism, the Catholic church, and drug and insurance companies.
  • "left-wing bogeymen all" as James Taranto notes.
  
  
  
• Pentagon shooting in Mar 2010, has been labelled a "right-wing" terrorist.
  • But he was a strange sort of "right-winger", one who was a registered Democrat, strongly opposed the Gulf War, hated Bush, believed Bush carried out 9/11, and called the Iraq War "Satanic".
  
  
  
• Roger Stockham arrested in Jan 2011 for threatening a Detroit mosque.
  • But, far from being a Tea Party member, he's leftist / Islamic / mentally ill.
  • He is a convert to Islam, and said in the threats that he was: "a local Muslim terrorist on a roll." A witness says that he: "called himself a mujahedeen".
  • In fact, this seems to be a case of a Sunni threatening a Shia mosque. And more. Not quite the Tea Party narrative, then.
  • Acts 17 Apologetics point out that some people rushed to call him a "Christian" terrorist, and the local Police Chief even said: "He picked Dearborn as a stop because of the huge Arab and Muslim population." When in fact he picked a Shia Muslim mosque because he was a Sunni Muslim.
  • In a similar phenomenon to the Tucson blood libel against Sarah Palin, people even accused Acts 17 Apologetics of inciting the attack! They have a lovely response: "It seems that our hate speech (i.e. drawing attention to disturbing facts about Islam, while maintaining our love for Muslims) somehow caused the Sunni-Shia split. Perhaps Jem believes that Nabeel and I constructed an Acts 17 time machine, travelled back to 632 and caused division in the Muslim community right after Muhammad died. Perhaps I went to Abu Bakr and said, "Hey! You should be leader!" Then Nabeel went to Ali and said, "You're better than Abu Bakr!" Fourteen centuries later, the division we caused led a Sunni convert to attack a mosque. Acts 17 must be even craftier than we thought!"
  
  
  
• The Washington Navy Yard shooting of Sept 2013 was not blamed on the right, but it was fascinating that the shooter turned out to be an Obama supporter.
  • A friend said about him: "He was more of a liberal type; he wasn't happy with the former [Bush] administration. He was more happy with this [the Obama] administration -- as far as presidential administrations."
  • Of course, primarily he was mentally ill.
  • But don't you think that if he was a Tea Party supporter, all hell would have broken loose?
  • It also emerged that the shooter created a webpage with the name "Mohammed Salem", though there is no evidence he was Muslim.
  
  
  
• The Las Vegas shooters in June 2014 were labelled as "right-wing".
  • However, it turned out they were supporters of the left-wing "Occupy" movement.
  
  
  
• Max Fisher gives an account of a horrific anti-Muslim crime in Dec 2014: "In December, a man in Kansas City wrote on his SUV that the Koran was a "disease worse than Ebola," then drove it into a 15-year-old Muslim boy in front of a local mosque, severing his legs and killing him."
  • However, he omits the fact that the killer was a black African Somali Christian immigrant.
  • Certainly not "right-wing" terrorism in any traditional sense.
  
  
  
• The Chapel Hill shooting in Feb 2015 was called a right-wing anti-Muslim hate crime.
  • However, it emerged that the shooter was a left-wing atheist who hated the GOP and was a fan of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
  
  
  
• Max Fisher portrays the murder of Ahmed Al-Jumaili in Texas in Mar 2015 as an anti-Muslim hate crime.
  • However, it seems the killer was a gangsta black teenager.

The left behind the scenes to make these recent riots happen. To every single president either assassinated or attempted to be assassinated were from left thinking individuals. To every summit like the G-6 summits and similar ones the left comes out and riots to have there opinions heard. To as recently as our last leftist president Clinton pardoned members of the Marxist-Leninist-inspired Puerto Rican terrorist group FALN. Clinton also pardoned leftist radical Susan Rosenberg, who was imprisoned for her role in the murder of two police officers and a security guard in a robbery in 1981. Then the left offer that insane woman a job at a college.

Let’s take a short look at the leftist violence in the United States.

1. It was Bill Maher who "joked" about Sarah Palin being the first of the useless people to be killed. That’s a real funny one Bill, almost as funny as your face.
2. Ed Schultz on PMSNBC has stated many times that Conservatives need to be killed.
3. SEIU beats down a black Conservative and an elderly Tea Party man.
4. Liberals want to kill Bush.
5. Vandals smashed a large glass door with a section of cinder block at the Republican Party headquarters in downtown Flagstaff.
6. Brownshirts for Kerry.
7. Leftist spits on Major Jerry Boyle, USMC Iraq War Vet and Congress candidate.
8. Joseph Stack crashes his plane into the Federal Building in Austin, TX.
9. Clay Duke walked into a Florida school board with a handgun, spray-painted a "V for Vendetta" (left-wing gang symbol) on the wall, and then tried to shoot the board members before shooting himself. (They tried to pin that one on the right as well.)
10. Norman Leboon (registered Democrat AND Obama donor) shot into Eric Cantor’s office in Virginia. He also wrote a Youtube video manifesto:

"My Congressman Eric Cantor, and you and your cupcake evil wife. Remember Eric, our judgment time, the final Yom Kippur has been given. You are a liar, you’re a Lucifer, you’re a pig, a greedy f*cking pig, you’re an abomination, you receive my bullets in your office, remember they will be placed in your heads. You and your children are Lucifer’s abominations."

11. The Left embraces a film where Bush gets assassinated.
12. An anonymous liberal called Congresswoman Jean Schmitt and left the following message:

"Yeah, I'm glad the president passed health care. Yeah. Funky ass, racist-ass Republicans hate that, don't you? Jean Schmitt, when you got hit by that car, you should've broke your back, b*tch. And Boehner, motherf****r that Mitch McConnell. All you racist f**king Republicans. Why don't you just change your party name to racist? Cuz if one of those f**king Tea baggers had spit on me, I'd have shot all them in the f**king face with my f**king 9 millimeter. F**k all you racist motherf****rs."

But they have a history that goes back to the 60’s.

It was Hanoi John Fonda Kerry who was involved with the Winter Soldier program that worked on a plan to assassinate Congressman/Senators who they disliked for whatever reason.

"In 1971, the pro-Hanoi anti-war group that presidential candidate John Kerry was principal leader and spokesman of debated and voted down a plot to assassinate U.S. Senators who supported the Vietnam War. Numerous media outlets claim witnesses and FBI documents conclusively place Kerry at that November 1971 meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) in Kansas City."

That Kerry resigned immediately afterwards is not clear but what IS clear is that he never reported the plot to the police. He also lied to the Senate as he slimed American Vietnam Vets.

For example, Valerie Jarrett and Van Jones, both Obomunists, have openly called for violent revolution in America. Van Jones left the Obama Administration and now works for the Soros mouthpiece, that spreads Obama propaganda, Media Matters and Valerie Jarrett is still in this corrupt administration and has Obama's ear. Sidenote: Valerie Jarrett's father In-law was very involved with the CPUSA and worked with the radical commie pedophile and Obama mentor Frank Marshall Davis.

1. Bill Ayer’s Weather Underground. Grew out of the SDS and Revolutionary Youth Movement (a faction of the SDS). Members included: Karen Ashley, Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, John Jacobs, Jeff Jones, Gerry Long, Howie Machtinger, Jim Mellen, Terry Robbins, Mark Rudd, and Steve Tappis. (Many now involved with the Democrat Party)

2. The Black Liberation Army (BLA) helped the WUO rob a Brink’s truck of $1.6 million. They murder a Brink’s guard and two police officers and wounded three others. The BLA is credited with murdering 13 police officers and over 60 acts of left-wing violence from 1970-1980.

3. M19CO was formed in the late 1970s. They had three objectives: to free political prisoners held in American prisons, to use appropriation of capitalist wealth to fund the third stage, and to initiate a series of bombings and terrorist attacks. They also freed JoAnne Chesimard who had murdered a state trooper.

The United Freedom Front: Responsible for 29 known robberies and bombings from October 4, 1975, to September 26, 1984. One of the members, Thomas Manning, was convicted of killing a New Jersey state trooper.

More recently:

In 2009, the Left came through Pittsburgh, smashing windows, setting fire to public and private property, and injuring police officers.

The shootings at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum were committed by a left-wing nutjob by the name of James Von Brunn.

Union thugs harassed the 14 y.o. son of a BoA executive in his home as the police did nothing.

At the RNC in 2008, they attacked buses with Boy Scouts in them and tried to drop rocks, bricks, and sandbags on the buses, trying to kill the drivers AND sprayed Republican delegates with toxic materials.

At the John Liebowitz (Steward) and Stevie Colbert rally, the Left trashed the mall AND the WW2 memorial.

Left-wing eco-terrorist groups like the Animal Liberation Front and the Earth Liberation Front have set to people’s homes and businesses on the West Coast since 1997. They have also burned down universities, car lots, government offices, ski resorts, and whaling vessels performing legal business on the high seas that the Discovery Channel sees fit to legitimize. (Sea Shepards)

Did WE on the Right erupt in violence when the Left took control of the House and Senate in 2007 and proceeded to run America into the ground? No. Did WE on the Right erupt in violence when the Left selected, what could possibly be an "illegal" president? No. We hold a rally on 8/28 and do it peacefully and cleanly. We vow to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND domestic, while the Left seeks to subvert it, bypass it, and shred it. So exactly WHO are the violent criminals in America? It appears that the Left, with people like Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dorhn, Rashid Khalidi (friend of Barry's), and all of the radical terrorists that comprise the coalition of the Left are the ones to blame. We on the Right want criminals PUNISHED, the Left wants them FREED, i.e. Abu Mumia, JoAnne Chesimard (BLA), William Morales(FMLN), Tookie, etc., often by violent means.

http://theantiliberalzone.blogspot.com/2011/01/leftist-violence-in-america-long.html

grouping and announcing that the 'insert group here' does that because one of them did it so them all must do it...


Grouping them because it is correct. A violent leftist wants you controlled or dead. A peaceful leftist wants the violent leftist to make it happen.

but yet you don't remember that i can do the same about conservatives, and any other group of people like it's nothing like you try to do here...

Go ahead and I will be happy to challenge it every time.

so now, you don't care about them boycotting, because lets get serious here, who really cares?

Oh I care that this mans business is being destroyed, I just don't care about them boycotting because I think they are a bunch of crazies who are evil little pieces of crap.

that's out of the way, so lets now get into the few that threatened lives, should they be searched for? possibly... will people get caught and arrested? not sure...

Highly doubt it.

anything else about this story you want to blow up and discuss?

Sure just pick something.

 

[+paradox]

and you expect me to reply to all of that nonsense? especially from a hate site that's probably worse than fox news?

nah, i'll spare my own time and efforts to pick my nose or something else that's more important...

 

[+paradox]

but i will comment on one thing that's in your horrific nonsense you call a post...

this: "4. Liberals want to kill Bush."

okay, but to be fair i've seen non-liberals say that they dislike, hate and/or even want to kill bush and obama, as well... so what's your point?

see, you're doing it again liberty, you're trying to spin things when every president gets death threats or citizens want them killed for a reason or two, it's not just one group or one political bunch...

besides liberty, don't you always express your hatred towards others and liberals? and want them all dead?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

and you expect me to reply to all of that nonsense? especially from a hate site that's probably worse than fox news?

nah, i'll spare my own time and efforts to pick my nose or something else that's more important...

I do not expect you to respond to anything.

 

[+paradox]

I do not expect you to respond to anything.

respond to a hate site full of fallacies, spins, untruths and half-truths? and to your words of ignorance?

who could blame me?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

but i will comment on one thing that's in your horrific nonsense you call a post...

this: "4. Liberals want to kill Bush."

Okay? So?

okay, but to be fair i've seen non-liberals say that they dislike, hate and/or even want to kill bush and obama, as well... so what's your point?

Well Bush was a progressive liberal most things except for a few policies so no surprise there. But wishing someone dead and actually acting on it and sending constant death threats is another.

see, you're doing it again liberty, you're trying to spin things when every president gets death threats or citizens want them killed for a reason or two, it's not just one group or one political bunch...

Again as shown above it is one group that owns it far and wide for hatred that turns into violence and never ending harassment.

besides liberty, don't you always express your hatred towards others and liberals? and want them all dead?

I openly despise the left and proudly say it. The difference is when they do something I disagree with, which is on hourly basis I don't nor do other conservatives go and try and kill them or go and try and ruin there business with bomb threats and worse. I don't want them all dead I just want them to live the life style they choose and leave me out of it. But they can't do it.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

respond to a hate site full of fallacies, spins, untruths and half-truths? and to your words of ignorance?


who could blame me?

You mean full of honesty, facts, truths and full truths. Yes who could blame you.

 

[+paradox]

you're a funny character in your own fantasy world...

just don't blame the core reason(s) of things, but instead blame the things that you despise because it's more convenient...

that's another reason why america is in such a hell hole, because people are blaming the wrong things and people for what they have to go through and/or fix...

the economy crashes, liberty blames the liberals...

if a business goes under, liberty blames the crazy nazi left for it...