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How do you feel about Copyright laws?

MrDawn

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I've always thought that copyright laws were a bit over exaggerated. Especially on Youtube.
Anyways, I found this guy's opinion on the Internet and I think he has some valid points.

Thoughts?

I pirate music, all the time. And I don’t think this is wrong. At ALL. (Buh buh BUH!!!) How can I say this? Well, let’s start by clearing up a prevalent misconception.

That whole ‘Piracy is stealing’ thing is bullshit.

Remember the old advert on the front of movies? (You know, this one). “You wouldn’t steal a car…You wouldn’t steal a handbag…you wouldn’t steal a television….Downloading is stealing…etc.”

This is what is known in the game, kids, as a reframe. It is a cunning trick designed to change the meaning that you attach to a certain action. But, if you look at it closely, the argument doesn’t quite hold up, does it?

Of course, in one way the advert is dead right. I wouldn’t steal a car, I wouldn’t steal a handbag, or a television. BUT, if I owned a magic raygun that could make a perfect copy of whatever I pointed it at, AND if a friend gave me a book and said he didn’t mind me copying it, and I made a copy (with my raygun) then read the book, (while he kept his copy) then what is that?

It’s SHARING, kids. And we were all taught that sharing is good, weren’t we?

‘Stealing’ by definition is: when you take something that isn’t yours from somebody else and therefore (and here is the important part) deprive them of it. Do you deprive someone of their property when you create a copy? No. So, at best, it is inaccurate to equate piracy with stealing, (at worst it’s just plain wrong); it’s actually closer to sharing.

Now, for all of you lovely, law abiding folk out there in internet land, reading this and being like: ‘I would NEVER steal music, for that is WRONG’, I would ask you…Have you ever lent anyone a book? Or a DVD? Have you ever burnt a CD for someone? Or (if you are old enough to remember) made a mixtape? (image of mixtape for those puzzled by this archaic term)

Then you have already broken this law. It is exactly the same copyright infringement law that applies to downloading music, but it’s not really discussed in these forms because that would highlight the fact that:

A) this law is stupid and unenforceable, and

B) everyone is breaking it anyway (even my Granny, who used to lend out books like a motherfucking library on fire).

Can you imagine a SWAT team kicking your door in and being all like: “Sir, did you lend someone this copy of Harry Potter? GET ON YOUR KNEES! You have the right to remain silent..etc.”

Of course not, because that would be ludicrous, and stupid…. ;-)

I believe that there is something very vital and natural in the sharing of music and art. There is something in us that, when we hear or experience something amazing, instantly wants to share that with someone, and this is a good thing. Sharing things that we find of worth is an urge that comes from deep within us. Enforcing outdated, outmoded laws is not.

‘But you are an independent musician!’ I hear you cry. (In my mind). ‘How can you espouse sharing music and still expect to make a living?’. ‘Will your music not be covered by the same copyright laws? And will you not enforce them?’ ‘Will you not, in fact, be a big fat hypocrite when it comes to protecting your own Fat Stacks of Cash? How on earth do you plan to make a living doing what you are doing when you are talking up this brand of crazy?!’.

Good questions, one and all. And my answers are as follows: I espouse free sharing of music because I believe it’s vital and good, and I believe that it allows the permeation of good music and art into our culture, which ultimately benefits everyone. No, my music will not be covered under the same copyright laws, I will be releasing it under a seperate copyright (most likely, an Attribution Non-commercial No Derivatives license) which means that you can share the music as much as you want, but if you want to use it for a commercial purpose you should ask me, and if you are making money off it then I should have some too ;-)

I’ll answer the last question (how can you possibly hope to make a living, etc…) with a story.

About two years ago, I came across a lady called Zoe Keating. Zoe is a cellist, who makes beautiful, layered cello music using her instrument, a laptop and a footpedal. It is beyond beautiful, as is she. So, I ripped all of her albums off the net to listen to, and listened to them over, and over, and over again. I looked her up, and discovered that she is a fully independent musician, supported solely by her record sales and her touring income.

So, I did a little research about where she made the most money (physical CD sales thru her own site) and I went there and bought every album she had made. Then I bought extras to give to my friends. I have also talked her up to anyone who would listen, and now I am writing a blog about how awesome she is, and linking to her site (at the end of this article).

Now, why did I do this? Well, not to make a point. I did it for 2 reasons.

#1 Her music is amazing. It is kickass, beautiful, badass sexy and fantastic, I love it and it adds tremendous value to my life. And

#2: Her story. The fact that she is an independent musician and really receives the money I spend on her music. It is an exchange I feel good about being part of. Everybody wins.

I believe that, when music is good enough, when it really adds value to peoples lives, then those people will support it in some way. Reciprocity is a fundamental human impulse.

As is the need to share.

source: http://jamesradcliffe.com/2013/10/27/why-the-war-on-piracy-is-just-so-much-bullshit/
 
I tend to agree, the problem is, as always, economics.

The music industry robbed us blind for years, charging high costs for CDs when it costs maybe a few cents to burn a CD, and we all were amazed at pop stars making multi-millions per year.

The downloading comes along, and there is no production costs at all, yet they charge what 99cent a song to download.

if you look at the number of songs on a CD, and think of it as 99cent per song, you are actually being charged more per song by downloading than buying a CD, yet there is not manufacturing costs, then if you were to buy a CD.

So economics dictates, that you either lower your prices to drive demand, or keep your prices high and drive illegal downloading. But companies don't want to cut their prices and lower their margins cause they are so use to making millions and millions, so what do they do, spend millions on lawyers to chase people who download 'illegally'.
 
I agree, to a point.

I am an independent author.

I've got a couple of titles under contract with a publisher that, when the paperwork expires, I WILL NOT renew.

I thought it was a good deal, you know, to have an actual publishing house, carry my work.

In a word, no.

At first, they did publicize the titles, and had an add with the cover of my book, amongst several others, in magazines and what not.

But then they moved on to newer, 'sexier', works, and left mine forgotten on the shelf. And while it is still under their contract, I can't do anything about it.

So, there POWER.... sits. Years of work, tied down by a few lines penned by a lawyer.

And then they up and rejected one of mine, (after they had it for over a year) with the request that I "make it hotter"

So now, instead of fighting with some nameless suit in an office somewhere, I decided to GIVE IT AWAY!

To'ell wit'em.

WARNING: Adult Subject Matter and Situations.
[NOTE: This story was rejected by the publisher in 2012 because it wasn't hot enough. You be the final judge.
For this presentation, only formatting and other minor changes have been made. The story is essentially 'as rejected'. Complete with the author's original typos.]

http://themediadesk.com/newfiles6/steam.htm
 
I tend to pirate music. Most of the music I like is either made by bands whose works aren't actually made available for purchase here, or else they are made available but at such an extortionate price that I could literally buy a new TV for the cost of one of their CDs.

Plus, I consider music to generally be something passive. That is, I listen to music whilst performing other tasks. With videogames, books, movies and all that, when I'm using them, they have my undivided attention, because that is what they demand in order to provide true enjoyment. But music happens in the background. So I don't pirate books, or movies, or games.
 
The article above is just one big clever excuse to be a thief of other peoples property. That is the kind of society we are creating thinking I want it therefore I should have it off the backs of others.
 
Sinon said:
I tend to pirate music. Most of the music I like is either made by bands whose works aren't actually made available for purchase here, or else they are made available but at such an extortionate price that I could literally buy a new TV for the cost of one of their CDs.

Some of the indie bands over here often release their singles as free downloads on Bandcamp (or on SoundCloud, where I got those singles made by Patterns, a Costa Rican synthpop band). But when it comes to singles from outside here, I used to do that in the past but now I imagine a radio station and listen to those a la YT/Spotify style.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
The article above is just one big clever excuse to be a thief of other peoples property. That is the kind of society we are creating thinking I want it therefore I should have it off the backs of others.


And here I go on the other side.....

Flavius Josephus died in 100 AD.

He won't make a dime off the sale of his books.

His kids, and grandkids, won't. His great great etc etc step grand kids in law... won't got paid.

After the better part of 2100 years, there IS no estate to benefit and support the lifestyle of some Merry Widow with the same last name.

So why then should I go to Amazon.com and order a bound copy of his books and pay fifty bucks EACH for them when I can do....

THIS:

http://www.biblestudytools.com/history/flavius-josephus/
 
That is a good point but what I say above is for the living people and living family when it gets passed down who create something and a business spends millions of dollars putting it in print, cd or in some other fashion. While making it clear it is there product they created and do want it stolen for others to use. If you didn't create it you have not right to it without permission or paying for it.
 
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