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"Infanticide is OK."

DrLeftover

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A newborn is a 'potential person'....



Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say



Parents should be allowed to have their newborn babies killed because they are “morally irrelevant” and ending their lives is no different to abortion, a group of medical ethicists linked to Oxford University has argued.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/h...s-no-different-from-abortion-experts-say.html





The journal that published the paper defends it:



Editors Defend Decision to Publish in Face of Storm of Opposition
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Journal of Medical Ethics

http://jme.bmj.com/
 
It's a logical opinion. Why is there outrage over it being simply published?



For the record, I support the right to abortion, but not late-term abortion.
 
Personally, I despise abortion. But despite my own views on the topic even I have to admit this article is just wrong on so many levels.



[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]parents should be able to have the baby killed if it turned out to be disabled without their knowing before birth



[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]That's probably one of the most insensitive things I could hear. I would expect this from a Nazi, and these people are [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]supposed to be educated. What parent who deserves to be called a parent decides their child is unfit to live because of a disability? I think the article's authors have never been parents. If they were they would not publish something so insensitive.







[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“To bring up such children might be an unbearable burden on the family and on society as a whole, when the state economically provides for their care.”



[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]So what, we are going to be like China now. Killing a baby because of population control?







[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]The article's authors had received death threats since publishing the article. He said those who made abusive and threatening posts about the study were [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“fanatics opposed to the very values of a liberal society”



[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]They have a right to be upset. Abortion is not an American value. Our country was not founded on such principles. To the article's authors:

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Because people oppose your radical and senseless views on abortion doesn't make them any less American than you.
 
A 'potential person'? To Hell with that, they ARE a person. Saying its morally irrelevant to kill a new born is the stupidest thing I ever heard. If you don't want the kid. Give em up for adoption. Or give em to someone else in the family who might want em.



Common sense and Decency are two things that surely are going down the drain if we get stupidity like this.
 
How does disabled suddenly mean worthless?



How does money define the worth of any life on this planet?



How do these people see themselves as moral beings yet support such things that are the very definition of immorality?



Not surprised that some don't see it as being relevant to their morals. How could it be if they don't have any morals to begin with?



Then again, humanity has been slowly swirling around that proverbial toilet for a while now as I only wonder when it will finally do down the toilet and hit the proverbial sewer.
 
Let me tell you the people who wrote it must be so sheltered it's unbelievable. Their real only argument is that abortion would make life easier.

Life is never easy from the cradle to the grave. According to them I should have never been born. I was born with a crippling physical disability, but I don't blame my parents or anyone for it. My burden is no different from yours.



My point is that the definition of life is to struggle. That is no reason for abortion...
 
I believe that abort itself is only justifiable if the individual is raped thus causing the pregnancy, it's a touchy issue, but I believe otherwise it shouldn't be done, not particularly illegalized but rightfully looked down upon. The article itself was written by stupid people with the quest of informing stupid individuals, if there were a time for Dexter Morgan to rid the world of somebody than the formulator of that article should be considered. I wish the man with the tiny mustache would've targeted them, because at least putting idiots in a concentration camp makes sense.
 
Icy Sci-berg said:
A 'potential person'? To Hell with that, they ARE a person. Saying its morally irrelevant to kill a new born is the stupidest thing I ever heard. If you don't want the kid. Give em up for adoption. Or give em to someone else in the family who might want em.



Common sense and Decency are two things that surely are going down the drain if we get stupidity like this.
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Common sense and decency have been unexistent in worser extents before, I referenced somebody above, not defending them, but I'm just saying, stupid is nothing new.
 
And, in a couple of years, at least in the EU, and then Oregon and California... It will be policy.



To those who say 'nay'... ... check out the current status of the mobile euthanasia clinics:



Euthanasia has been legal in the Netherlands for a decade. But an organisation based in The Hague is now offering a mobile euthanasia service, prompting accusations that the law has been pushed too far.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17230102
 
It is justified by saying that they are ending suffering.



I swear this oath by Apollo physician, and by all the gods and goddesses: In whatsoever place that I enter I will enter to help the sick and heal the injured, and I will do no harm.



- The Doctor, Star Trek- Voyager, episode Tuvix, written by Kenneth Biller, Paramount/Viacom Television, 1996
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Full version of the oaths (classic and modern) available at:

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=20909
 
DrLeftover said:
It is justified by saying that they are ending suffering.
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Can't exactly argue with that, can you? It's still the patient's decision.

Besides, I'd rather have a doctor take care of this than let patients try to kill themselves...
 
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