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is federal income tax a scam?

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do you think united state's federal income tax is a scam?

do you think there's a law for federal income tax?

if so, where's the law?

do you think federal income tax hurt or help the economy and the public?
 
+Justice said:
do you think united state's federal income tax is a scam?
do you think there's a law for federal income tax?
if so, where's the law?
do you think federal income tax hurt or help the economy and the public?

Hmmm...good question. :|
First off, here are the justifications for the income tax as currently understood:
--16th Amendment to the United States Constitution
The Sixteenth Amendment (Amendment XVI) to the United States Constitution allows the Congress to levy an income tax without apportioning it among the states or basing it on the United States Census.
When the states ratified the 16th Amdt., it overturned the then-current case law on the subject, notably Pollock v. Farmers Loan & Trust Company, an 1895 case which had declared the 1894 Income Tax Act as an unconstitutional violation of the Constitution's Apportionment Clause in regards to taxation. Current case law is predicated on the 2006 Murphy decision (Murphy v. IRS, D.C. Circuit Ct. of Appeals), which reaffirmed the income tax's constitutionality.

As to whether it helps or hurts the economy, that pretty much depends on where the statutory rates are at present; generally, the higher the rate, the less revenue the government gets back (contrary to basic economic theory, ironically)....conversely, in most cases, the lower the rate, the higher amt. of revenue the government receives.
 
is there a law in the books that says americans MUST pay income tax?

if so, where is it?
 
some people believe that the elite that wrote up the federal reserve bill wrote that as well before 1913 and the fraudulent president, wilson, signed it into action in 1913...

after wilson did that, he said that he regretted it...
 
They tax our paychecks, they tax the stuff we buy then they want more in April. Enough is enough!

...unless you're getting a refund then, yeah, its all good.
 
Nebulous said:
They tax our paychecks, they tax the stuff we buy then they want more in April.  Enough is enough!

...unless you're getting a refund then, yeah, its all good.

and even then they get it wrong a lot of the times... ;)
 
+freezy said:
do you think united state's federal income tax is a scam?

Yes it is a absolute scam. It is part of the reason why we have so much waste and endless welfare programs. If we went to some kind of flat tax and back to a gold standard this would be one of the biggest ways to get a out of control government back in check.

do you think there's a law for federal income tax?

It really does not matter if we think there is a law or not many people have challenged it and lost.

if so, where's the law?

do you think federal income tax hurt or help the economy and the public?

Hurts, hurts and hurts. There is no good from having a income tax.
 
remember captain obvious on south park? :P

but euh is right, but there's still americans out there that think the government doesn't lie on the daily bases...
 
+freezy said:
Nebulous said:
They tax our paychecks, they tax the stuff we buy then they want more in April.  Enough is enough!

...unless you're getting a refund then, yeah, its all good.

and even then they get it wrong a lot of the times... ;)

Yeah I hear if people don't give it back, they can go to jail. Better not spend it if there's a mistake! :fright:
 
there's times that they don't figure out the mistake until it's too late...
 
+freezy said:
there's times that they don't figure out the mistake until it's too late...

Thats why peeps need to be on top of their stuff and can spot mistakes.
 
DrLeftover said:
Of course it is a scam.

It takes your hard earned money and gives it to the lazy, the incompetent, and the criminal, to spend.

And that's just the politicians.

This.


Then if you do end up getting money at the end of the year, its your spent money anyways.

If you owe, they just mooch and steal more of your working money while people on assistance are stealing all the credits and take 200 when pass go.
 
the people don't control the economy, it's the powerful that does...

people need to start blaming the government instead of the people...

the government and powerful enjoy it when people are divided and fight against each other while still a slave to them...
 
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