israel is only defending itself

[TommyTooter]

i normally refuse to use infowars media, but watson nails the hypocrisy and lies of the zionists and their claims about israel's 'right to defend itself', how they are giving the palestinians so much warning to evacuate and why it's hamas's fault that the israelis are bombing civilians.

since this video was made, the death count has gone over 800 and injuries over 5000.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cbHSiQyCPTw

 

[DrLeftover]

I hate to agree with Tooter about anything.

but, here we go:

Infowars is almost as bad as this one....

But lately, they seem to be the only ones with anything resembling the truth.

Ron Dermer, the Israeli Ambassador to the US, hits hard and doesn’t let up over the course of this interview with CNN host Erin Burnett. He cites CNN for being a “disservice” to their viewers for not once mentioning the fact that the UN Secretary General just issued a statement warning people that Hamas is storing weapons in these UN schools, thus making them a target.

CNN only wants to point out that the children are dead and how tragic it is (and it is), but they are failing to see the greater atrocity. The fact is that Hamas is using these schools to house their weapons, even furthering the statement made by Prime Minister Netanyahu that “Hamas uses its people to protect its weapons.”

With Video:
http://www.westernjournalism.com/epic-israeli-ambassador-utterly-destroys-cnn-for-its-disservice-to-viewers/

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

If the people in Gaza got rid of Hamas and stopped taking missiles and explosives from Iran this war would end today. If Israel got rid of all it's weapons and defensive ones every last one would be dead or running for their lives.

 

[DrLeftover]

If Israel got rid of all it's weapons and defensive ones every last one would be dead or running for their lives.

The stated objective of Hamas, Iran, Hezbolah, Muslim Brotherhood, etc.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Bill Whittle one of my favorite guys for listening to logic explains it expertly once again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Zg1IVjnRuXk

 

[TommyTooter]

:nope: i've seen that one and the bullshit is boggling. i'll need to watch it again if you want to go over it point by point.

despite any arguments that you may consider to be valid from a statist's viewpoint, the fact remains that what the architects of the balfour declaration and the engineers of the palestinian occupation and genocide have done and continue to do is expressly forbidden by hebrew law, in the three oaths of the talmud which say jews are not to govern any territory until moshiach comes, the ten commandments and deuteronomy 6-11, which is the core of hebrew law.

there is no exception that mandates lying, stealing or killing in the name of the state.

to call it a 'jewish state' is an oxymoron and to call it a democracy is even more preposterous when it is a plutocratic oligarchy whose central bank is owned by the rothschilds.

 

[TommyTooter]

I hate to agree with Tooter about anything.

but, here we go:

Infowars is almost as bad as this one....

But lately, they seem to be the only ones with anything resembling the truth.

Ron Dermer, the Israeli Ambassador to the US, hits hard and doesn’t let up over the course of this interview with CNN host Erin Burnett. He cites CNN for being a “disservice” to their viewers for not once mentioning the fact that the UN Secretary General just issued a statement warning people that Hamas is storing weapons in these UN schools, thus making them a target.

CNN only wants to point out that the children are dead and how tragic it is (and it is), but they are failing to see the greater atrocity. The fact is that Hamas is using these schools to house their weapons, even furthering the statement made by Prime Minister Netanyahu that “Hamas uses its people to protect its weapons.”

With Video:
http://www.westernjournalism.com/epic-israeli-ambassador-utterly-destroys-cnn-for-its-disservice-to-viewers/

when you open with a line like that, it really undermines your credibility as an academic.

 

[DrLeftover]

I'm a half-drunken, half-crippled, ex-sportswriter... I've NEVER had any "credibility as an academic", nor have I sought any beyond what I have already accomplished, which was in a field that, until recently, wasn't even allowed on this forum.

But that's neither here nor there.

What did you think of the ambassador pounding on CNN for being everything except "objective"?

 

[TommyTooter]

I'm a half-drunken, half-crippled, ex-sportswriter... I've NEVER had any "credibility as an academic", nor have I sought any beyond what I have already accomplished, which was in a field that, until recently, wasn't even allowed on this forum.

But that's neither here nor there.

What did you think of the ambassador pounding on CNN for being everything except "objective"?

ok. i guess that explains it. thank you for clarifying that. i'm a stoner who is a blacklisted biochemist/zoologist forced into the arts when i found myself a life scientist in a death culture under raygunomics. i landed in the streets when reagan decided to cut the funding for the job i had lined up with brown and goldstein at utexas-dallas (nobelists - good cholesterol/bad cholesterol) in favor of SDI in the winter of 1985.

honestly, i try not to think any more unless i'm getting paid to do it, otherwise i'm running on autopilot.

i'm a little too busy right now to slow down enough to give what you posted any serious thought, but i promise to look into deeper this evening after the work day is over. i'm multi-tasking too hard right now.

 

[+paradox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU1cqodponQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ReF4UUa4E

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Well Anonymous is a force for evil so them giving any opinion on a country defending themselves would be like Hitler defending Manson that he was a really nice guy.

 

[+paradox]

Well Anonymous is a force for evil so them giving any opinion on a country defending themselves would be like Hitler defending Manson that he was a really nice guy.

explain.

 

[DrLeftover]

I think Mr. Sowell says everything that needs said on the topic:

Talk-show host Geraldo Rivera says that there is no way Israel is winning the battle for world opinion. But Israel is trying to win the battle for survival, while surrounded by enemies. Might that not be more important?

Has any other country, in any other war, been expected to keep the enemy’s civilian casualties no higher than its own civilian casualties? The idea that Israel should do so did not originate among the masses but among the educated intelligentsia.

In an age when scientists are creating artificial intelligence, too many of our educational institutions seem to be creating artificial stupidity.

More:
http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/is-thinking-now-obsolete/

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Well Anonymous is a force for evil so them giving any opinion on a country defending themselves would be like Hitler defending Manson that he was a really nice guy.

explain.

Explain what?

 

[TommyTooter]

Well Anonymous is a force for evil so them giving any opinion on a country defending themselves would be like Hitler defending Manson that he was a really nice guy.

explain.

Explain what?

how anonymous is a force for evil might be a good place to start.

 

[TommyTooter]

I think Mr. Sowell says everything that needs said on the topic:

Talk-show host Geraldo Rivera says that there is no way Israel is winning the battle for world opinion. But Israel is trying to win the battle for survival, while surrounded by enemies. Might that not be more important?

Has any other country, in any other war, been expected to keep the enemy’s civilian casualties no higher than its own civilian casualties? The idea that Israel should do so did not originate among the masses but among the educated intelligentsia.

In an age when scientists are creating artificial intelligence, too many of our educational institutions seem to be creating artificial stupidity.

More:
http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/is-thinking-now-obsolete/

world nut daily is one of the biggest distributors of raw stupidity in the entire world of spun out media.

the israelis lost three civilians. one of their own is now accusing them of shooting civilians as revenge for the killing of soldiers. who are the terrorists here?

http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Gaza-Child-Killed-By-Jews.jpg

 

[DrLeftover]

I think Mr. Sowell says everything that needs said on the topic:

Talk-show host Geraldo Rivera says that there is no way Israel is winning the battle for world opinion. But Israel is trying to win the battle for survival, while surrounded by enemies. Might that not be more important?

Has any other country, in any other war, been expected to keep the enemy’s civilian casualties no higher than its own civilian casualties? The idea that Israel should do so did not originate among the masses but among the educated intelligentsia.

In an age when scientists are creating artificial intelligence, too many of our educational institutions seem to be creating artificial stupidity.

More:
http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/is-thinking-now-obsolete/

world nut daily is one of the biggest distributors of raw stupidity in the entire world of spun out media.

the israelis lost three civilians. one of their own is now accusing them of shooting civilians as revenge for the killing of soldiers. who are the terrorists here?

http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Gaza-Child-Killed-By-Jews.jpg

So you are discrediting Thomas Sowell because his article is carried by World Net Daily?

How asinine is that?

You can also read his pieces on howevermany other outlets, including his own website, as well as various news sites.

But I wouldn't expect somebody who instantly dismisses one of the best minds of our time because they don't like a particular website, while they simultaneously post stuff from equally questionable sources I might add, to consider what the man has to say.

 

[TommyTooter]

people do it regularly to me. what's good for the goose is good for the gander. WND has no credibility to my readers. if the guy is such a great mind, you should be able to come up with a more reliable site for his work.

israel has no right to exist at all. it is nothing more than a rothschild colonial venture that is in complete violation of hebrew law. anybody apologizing for them is not somebody whose opinion i value in the least.

 

[DrLeftover]

Given that criteria, what nation does have the right to exist?

 

[TommyTooter]

Given that criteria, what nation does have the right to exist?

not many, certainly none of the big colonies created by the rothschild morgan cartel for the past 250 years or so or any of the faux democracies they've created in the past 100 years from the rubble of the empires toppled in the great wars of the 20th century.

when the planet was built, there were no lines drawn on the ground that defined anybody's habitat. certainly one of the biggest contributing factors in the middle east to all the mayhem was the carving up of the ottoman empire, with it's fluid borders into all the little states it's been carved into.