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Lawmakers push for 'Privacy Nightmare Disguised as Child Protection' Acts Thread

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Monke's Note: The original post was originally titled as "Colorado Lawmakers Push for Age Verification at the Operating System Level" referring to the first article posted here. It's renamed to "Lawmakers push for 'Privacy Nightmare Disguised as Child Protection' Acts Thread".



Rather than having people verify their age on every app they use, Colorado's SB26-051 would implement a way for devices to share an 'age-bracket' signal to third-party apps.

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PCMag by By Michael Kan

As more US states consider online age-verification requirements, two Colorado lawmakers want to implement the age checks at the operating system-level.

SB26-051, introduced last month, would require operating systems to register the owner’s age, which third-party apps can then leverage to determine if the user is an adult. The bill calls for the device owner to register their birthdate or age, but for the purposes of creating an “age bracket,” which can then be shared to an app developer through an API to learn their age range, according to BiometricUpdate.com.

The bill comes from state Sen. Matt Ball and Rep. Amy Paschal, both Democrats. Ball seems to view his measure as pro-privacy and as a way to stop kids from downloading adult-oriented apps. “No personal information is communicated that you could use to identify somebody; it’s just an age bracket signal,” he told the Colorado Springs Gazette.

The legislation seems to also centralize the age check through the OS, rather than mandating that each app enforce their own age-verification mechanism, which can involve scanning the user’s official ID, thus raising privacy and security concerns. The bill also forbids the sharing of the age-bracket data for any other purpose.

But it looks like it’s easy to bypass the age check proposed by SB26-051. The legislation itself doesn’t mention any state ID check to verify the owner’s age. In addition, the bill doesn’t seem to cover websites, only apps and app stores.

The legislation adds that “if a developer has clear and convincing information that a user's age is different than the age indicated by an age signal, the developer shall use that information as the primary indicator of the user's age range.” SB26-051 also includes a “civil penalty of not more than $2,500 for each minor affected by each negligent violation or not more than $7,500 for each minor affected by each intentional violation.”

“Hell no. You give an inch, they take a mile. Every single time. No compromises. No mass surveillance PERIOD,” wrote one user on Reddit.

Others are more sympathetic. Another Reddit user who identified themselves as a software engineer said the proposal lifts the burden of age verification from app developers and platform operators, which have faced lawsuits for failing to conduct adequate age checks.

But the software engineer added: “Just because the owner of the phone was 18 doesn't mean the USER is. I could be playing video games on my older brother's phone that he left lying on the desk. It's like 100% tying speeding tickets to license plates—you can try, but it doesn't stand up because somebody else might have been driving my car. You have to know the human, not the device.”

One site that supports device-level age checks is Pornhub. Its parent company, Aylo, has blocked Pornhub and the other adult sites it owns in states and countries that require age-verification in protest of those laws.

"The best and most effective solution for protecting minors and adults alike is to identify users at the source: by their device, or account on the device, and allow access to age-restricted materials and websites based on that identification," Pornhub says. "This means users would only get verified once, through their operating system, not on each age-restricted site. This dramatically reduces privacy risks and creates a very simple process for regulators to enforce."

STOP BEING SUCH A NANNY YOU DAMN BOOMERS
 
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I said it before over in the Question on Pornography & Society debate thread: if adults want to access porn, they're free to do so. Kids are another story and unfortunately, age-gating is looking like the go-to way to try and stop them.

And what works there probably works elsewhere.... :o :faint: :o
 
:no: I don't really believe this would really help stopping kids from trying. Just another one of the excuses they're imposing for surveillance, and the Internet is getting too obsessed with verifying everything recently, not putting into the equation how this shit is giving more opportunities to cyber criminals to exploit than really "solve" the age-gating problem. But that's the privacy-concern me speaking here. Do you know one of the most porn-aggregating sites happened to be the big few? Facebook, Instagram, X (and Bluesky even), and bloody Roblox.

Just set a up a family computer and only white-list a couple of website, I don't want nation-wide nannies to do the babysitting for me. Not to mention, this is easy to get around by reinstalling the computer with open-sourced OS and Linux distros :LOL:
 
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I said it before over in the Question on Pornography & Society debate thread: if adults want to access porn, they're free to do so. Kids are another story and unfortunately, age-gating is looking like the go-to way to try and stop them.

And what works there probably works elsewhere.... :o :faint: :o

Parenting is the solution though, not invading our privacy. Parents shouldn't be giving their children free access to electronic devices without parental restrictions in place.
 
Parenting is the solution though, not invading our privacy. Parents shouldn't be giving their children free access to electronic devices without parental restrictions in place.
Problem is, most parents either don't or are ignorant of what their children do.
 
Problem is, most parents either don't or are ignorant of what their children do.
I understand that. And that's make it all the more frustrating. It's like declawing the cat so it won't hurt the kid instead of teaching the kid not to mess with the cat far enough that it scratches. We are the cats here...
 
It's like declawing the cat so it won't hurt the kid instead of teaching the kid not to mess with the cat far enough that it scratches.
The rub there is that we'd rather declaw the cat.
Society always looks for the easiest solution, civil liberties be damned. (Remind me to explain my opposition to sex offender registries on those grounds)
 
Society always looks for the easiest solution
Yes, It's not just the easiest solution around, it's one of the most tiring excuse for easy mass surveillance (always "about the Children™") actively being pushed by lawmakers and it works because normies don't like inconveniences by switching to another OS-- what's worse that even Linux distro, now that I heard the rounds, are affected. For those who actually cared would look for alternative, maybe a cracked Windows OS or switch to an underground distro that overlooks this.

I hope the court trashed this law because as someone aptly puts it but I couldn't remember them verbatim... it would also affects the infrastructures and business, creating competition from USA rivals (in a bad way). It may elude people from here but it's one of the reasons why the Chinese are catching up in the A.I. arms race because they're not being restricted by American laws.

Relevant video:


 

The App Store Accountability Act Is a Privacy Nightmare Disguised as Child Protection

Washington has discovered a familiar political trick: wrap a flawed policy in the language of protecting children and hope nobody reads the fine print.

American Greatness article By Julio Rivera

Washington has discovered a familiar political trick: wrap a flawed policy in the language of protecting children and hope nobody reads the fine print. The latest example is the App Store Accountability Act, a bill championed by lawmakers who appear eager to regulate the internet without understanding how it actually works.

Supporters insist the legislation will protect kids online. In reality, it risks undermining privacy, violating constitutional protections, and creating a cybersecurity disaster in the process.

And remarkably, Congress is pushing forward with this even though federal courts have already signaled that this exact regulatory model is unconstitutional.

The App Store Accountability Act would require app stores to verify the ages of every user and share age information with app developers. On paper, that sounds straightforward. In practice, it would force companies to collect massive amounts of sensitive personal data simply to download everyday apps.

Want to download a weather app? Verify your age.

Want to install a calculator? Verify your age.

Want to read the news? Verify your age.

The practical result is obvious: app stores would be compelled to gather highly sensitive identity data on tens of millions of Americans and then distribute that information to countless third-party developers.

This could be one of the largest digital identity honeypots ever conceived.

Security experts have been warning about this for months. In fact, 419 cybersecurity and privacy academics from 30 countries recently signed an open letter warning that large-scale age verification systems are “dangerous and socially unacceptable” because they create enormous new attack surfaces for hackers and data thieves.

The logic is simple. If every app download requires age verification, that means sensitive identity data must be stored, transmitted, and accessed across thousands of services. Instead of limiting the spread of personal information, the bill effectively multiplies it.

For cybercriminals, it would be a dream target.

Equally troubling is the bill’s blatant disregard for recent federal court rulings. Lawmakers promoting the legislation often claim that age-verification mandates have already received judicial approval.

That claim collapses under even basic scrutiny.

Just months ago, a federal judge blocked a nearly identical Texas law modeled on the same concept, ruling that it was “exceedingly overbroad” and failed strict constitutional scrutiny.

The court compared the requirement to a government mandate forcing bookstores to check the ID of every customer before allowing them inside. Such a system, the judge explained, would restrict minors from participating in the “democratic exchange of views online.”

In other words, it violates the First Amendment.

Despite that ruling, Congress now appears ready to repeat the same mistake on a national scale.

Supporters of the bill, including lawmakers like Representatives John James (R-MI), Gus Bilirakis (R-FL), and Erin Houchin (R-IN), argue that forcing app stores to verify the age of every user will protect children online. But critics warn the approach risks creating new privacy and security problems while doing little to address the real harms children face on the internet.

Additionally, the proposal ignores the practical realities of how the modern app ecosystem actually functions.

Most apps are not social media platforms. They are mundane tools: banking apps, airline apps, school apps, fitness trackers, weather alerts, home security dashboards, and so forth. The App Store Accountability Act would force age verification for all of them.

Even worse, the bill requires verification across four distinct age brackets: under 13, 13 to 15, 16 to 17, and adults. That may sound bureaucratically tidy, but in the real world, it creates a massive liability problem for app stores.

If a company guesses wrong about whether someone is 12 or 13, it could face penalties from federal regulators. The only way to avoid that risk is to demand hard identification, such as driver’s licenses, credit cards, or even birth certificates to prove parental relationships.

That is the inevitable outcome of the bill’s legal structure.

And millions of Americans do not even possess the required credentials. More than 45 million Americans are either credit unserved or underserved, meaning the law could effectively force them to hand over government IDs simply to download basic apps.

Ironically, many parents do not even support this approach. Surveys show parents overwhelmingly prefer tools that protect children while they use apps rather than a one-time age verification at the app store level.

In other words, the bill creates a massive bureaucracy that fails to solve the problem it claims to address.

More importantly, it distracts from real solutions that actually help protect kids online.

Digital literacy education, stronger parental control tools, and targeted enforcement against platforms that knowingly facilitate exploitation are all more effective approaches. These strategies address harmful behavior without building a nationwide surveillance system for internet users.

The App Store Accountability Act does the opposite. It places the burden on every user, every developer, and every app store while doing little to target the bad actors responsible for real harm.

That is why critics from across the technology and cybersecurity communities are raising alarms. The legislation threatens to create new privacy risks while inviting years of constitutional litigation that will likely end with the law being blocked in court.

If lawmakers truly want to protect children online, they should start by listening to experts instead of rushing through legislation that ignores both legal precedent and technical reality.

Unfortunately, Washington often prefers symbolic victories to workable solutions.

The App Store Accountability Act is a perfect example of what happens when lawmakers regulate technology they clearly do not understand. It risks undermining privacy, weakening cybersecurity, and violating free speech rights all at the same time.

And if Congress insists on passing it anyway, the courts will almost certainly remind them why the Constitution still matters.
 
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