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Marijuana Legalization
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I'm against it. Don't need more people taking up drugs.
As for people who have health problems..
Here are some marijuana heath facts (Source: sanfranciscocannabisclubs.com)
Medical marijuana helps many people with a number of wide-ranging symptoms. Research concludes that medical marijuana has three major properties which are medically useful. Medical marijuana is:
Medical marijuana is used for medicinal purposes for a large number of diseases, illnesses and disabilities without many of the side affects that accompany todays most commonly-prescribed medications. Medical marijuana is one of the safest active substances known and has a wide variety of therapeutic applications including:
Marijuana is frequently beneficial in the treatment of the following conditions:
Here are some marijuana heath facts (Source: sanfranciscocannabisclubs.com)
Medical marijuana helps many people with a number of wide-ranging symptoms. Research concludes that medical marijuana has three major properties which are medically useful. Medical marijuana is:
- An analgesic (relieves pain)
- An anti-emetic (relieves nausea and vomiting)
- An appetite stimulant (induces hunger)
Medical marijuana is used for medicinal purposes for a large number of diseases, illnesses and disabilities without many of the side affects that accompany todays most commonly-prescribed medications. Medical marijuana is one of the safest active substances known and has a wide variety of therapeutic applications including:
- Reduction of muscle spasms.
- Relief from chronic pain.
- Relief from nausea and increase of appetite.
Marijuana is frequently beneficial in the treatment of the following conditions:
- AIDS. Medical marijuana can reduce the nausea, vomiting, and loss of appetite caused by the ailment itself and by various AIDS medications.
- Glaucoma. Medical marijuana can reduce interlobular pressure, thereby alleviating the pain and slowing -- and sometimes stopping -- the progress of the condition.
- Cancer. Medical marijuana can stimulate the appetite and alleviate nausea and vomiting, which are common side effects of chemotherapy treatment.
- Multiple Sclerosis. Medical marijuana can limit the muscle pain and spastically caused by the disease, as well as relieving tremor and unsteadiness of gait.
- Epilepsy. Marijuana can prevent epileptic seizures in some patients.
- Chronic Pain. Medical marijuana can alleviate the chronic, often debilitating pain caused by myriad disorders and injuries.
- Many patients also report that medical marijuana is useful for treating arthritis, migraine, menstrual cramps, alcohol and opiate addiction, and depression and other debilitating mood disorders.
I just got asked this question for a school survey today, and I said No to making it legal.
I do not smoke but I am against the federal ban of Marijuana because it is, quite frankly, unconstitutional.
dynastygal said:
Tylenol, Asprin, and everything else used for medication is a drug. You'd rather take a drug that is made in a lab with chemicals, then one that naturally grows in the ground and also is proven to have medical benefits?
Sounds flawed.
Funny that you assume something of someone you never met. That my dear, is flawed debating. My opinion on lab drugs has nothing to do with my opinion on recreational drugs. Marijuana is just another thing to promote cancer and various other ailments, and like cigarettes and alcohol, should be banned outright. Children already drink underage and smoke underage due to legality of the items making it piss easy to obtain them. We don't need them smoking this too.
dynastygal said:
Sorry, if you knew about actual debating (Which I do, on a Provincial level), then you would know that an impromptu debate such as this results in people making assumptions. Just a little bit of information for the future for you
Can you show a source where Marijuana causes cancer and other aliments that match or surpass cigarettes or alcohol? Alcohol is a depressant therefore slows down your central nervous system, thus too much is dangerous. Cigarettes are not a drug, so it's irrelevant, but they do damage your lungs and other organs. Marijuana is a hallucinogenic (yet you do not see things), and it's side effects are red eyes, you get tired, and maybe a bit hungry. Trust me, banning it (which it already is, if you were unaware) doesn't do anything. If I wanted to go buy an ounce of Marijuana right now, I could walk down the road and meet up with the local dealer. Prohibition has never worked before, and it won't work in an advanced society such as this.
Legality of the items in relation to the usability of them are nulled. Just because speeding is illegal doesn't mean people will do it. Just because under age drinking is illegal doesn't mean kids will only drink pop at parties. Just because underage smoking is illegal doesn't mean a kid won't pull out a pack of smokes on his lunch break and have a puff. If you want to talk about assumptions, you just made a major one.
No, it's called straw manning. That's poor debating. For some so called debater, you should at least know that.
Cigs are a drug...do you know what nicotine is?
And it doesn't have to be equal to or surpass. Marijuana does cause cancer, and that's been well documented.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7869709.stm
http://www.fhcrc.org/about/ne/news/2009 ... juana.html
And just marijuana is used in medicine doesn't mean it should be used recreationly, especially when side effects lead to accidents.
I'm fully aware it is banned. I'm not ignorant of these issues like you clearly are. And clearly you don't know how easy children can get cigarettes and alcohol, yet have little ease getting Marijuana because they'd a) have to know a dealer,
be able to obtain money for said dealer and so on. Youngsters aren't as capable of getting money , be it legal or not as older people, nor are they likely to mix with a crowd that knows a dealer. However, as for alcohol and cigs, they just knick their parents, ask someone to buy it for them, fake ids, etc.
Also, next time, please read what I have put instead of claiming I've made assumptions.
Children already drink underage and smoke underage due to legality of the items making it piss easy to obtain them.
Where in that sentance do I indicate kids cannot get a hold of cigs/alcohol due to it being illegal to smoke/drink under a certain age? I clearly haven't. Seriously, for a so-called debater, your reading and debating skills are piss poor. Mind I find that a lot with people who try to debate something they haven't got a rat's ass clue about.
You fail to realise that a warning sticker is a lot different to a total ban. That's where your attempt to refute my arguments fail because you've totally ignored what I've said and gone off on a tangent that isn't what I said.
Cigs are a drug...do you know what nicotine is?
And it doesn't have to be equal to or surpass. Marijuana does cause cancer, and that's been well documented.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7869709.stm
http://www.fhcrc.org/about/ne/news/2009 ... juana.html
And just marijuana is used in medicine doesn't mean it should be used recreationly, especially when side effects lead to accidents.
I'm fully aware it is banned. I'm not ignorant of these issues like you clearly are. And clearly you don't know how easy children can get cigarettes and alcohol, yet have little ease getting Marijuana because they'd a) have to know a dealer,
Also, next time, please read what I have put instead of claiming I've made assumptions.
Children already drink underage and smoke underage due to legality of the items making it piss easy to obtain them.
Where in that sentance do I indicate kids cannot get a hold of cigs/alcohol due to it being illegal to smoke/drink under a certain age? I clearly haven't. Seriously, for a so-called debater, your reading and debating skills are piss poor. Mind I find that a lot with people who try to debate something they haven't got a rat's ass clue about.
You fail to realise that a warning sticker is a lot different to a total ban. That's where your attempt to refute my arguments fail because you've totally ignored what I've said and gone off on a tangent that isn't what I said.
Being a great debater that you think you are, stooping down to personal attacks just makes you look dumb. I don't feel like debating with a child, so when you want to drop the personal attacks, I'll rejoin this thread.
I love that you being an amazing debater (self proclaimed), you need to use profanity and poor language. Maybe you should grow up, then try participating in discussions with people.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently - Friedrich Nietzsche
Process that, chode.
Edit: Also, Cigarettes are not drugs, though the INGREDIENT (one of thousands) called nicotine is. You really should learn to word yourself properly, or get a clue.
I love that you being an amazing debater (self proclaimed), you need to use profanity and poor language. Maybe you should grow up, then try participating in discussions with people.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently - Friedrich Nietzsche
Process that, chode.
Edit: Also, Cigarettes are not drugs, though the INGREDIENT (one of thousands) called nicotine is. You really should learn to word yourself properly, or get a clue.
Duck Sauce said:
The fact that you won't admit fault, i.e. your straw manning and accusing me of things because you clearly cannot read shows you are backed up into a corner, and you're the one using petty insults, like calling me a child, not me. So kindly go back to school yourself and learn some manners.
And by the by, you're the one who said Which I do, on a Provincial level, not me. So I'm not the one up my own rear end, you are.
Oh, btw, even children know cigs are classed as drugs; http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/find_ ... 609624.stm
How does that make you feel?
Again with the personal attacks, You really are incapable of being mature aren't you? I'm not backed into any corner, I just don't waste my time with petty people who can't hold themselves in intelligent discussion without getting butthurt.
I do debate on a provincial level, ever consider we use different terms here as to where you life? Maybe you should consider that before you jump down someones throat for no reason. Calling me Ignorant, saying I have piss poor debating and reading skills, are direct insults.
You are starting to seem like a brick wall of stupid, no going around it.
I do debate on a provincial level, ever consider we use different terms here as to where you life? Maybe you should consider that before you jump down someones throat for no reason. Calling me Ignorant, saying I have piss poor debating and reading skills, are direct insults.
You are starting to seem like a brick wall of stupid, no going around it.
I'm not the one who made false claims and called you a child.
You're the one personally attacking, not me. Sorry you're incapable of seeing that.
But if you want personal insults, fine have at it.
You are an incompetent moron. You claim to know debating yet instantly use straw man arguments which are frowned upon by proper debaters. Then you bitch and whine like a little fucking brat that I'm personally attacking you when I'm pointing out all the flaws in your pathetic excuse for a debate against me. You have the nerve to claim you know debating or anything when I've provided clear evidence to back up my claims where as you just assume things.
That's why you a fucking incompetent debater and that's why I am showing you now what a true personal insult it. So kindly fuck off from this thread till you learn to fucking provide a decent attempt at apologising for calling me a child (and now stupid, funny how you bitch about personal attacks but make them yourself), making a straw man argument and accusing me of things I have not done.
Twat. In fact, any twat like you who dares speak to me like you have will be placed on my foe list here on out. I debate with intelligent people, not cavemen.
You're the one personally attacking, not me. Sorry you're incapable of seeing that.
But if you want personal insults, fine have at it.
You are an incompetent moron. You claim to know debating yet instantly use straw man arguments which are frowned upon by proper debaters. Then you bitch and whine like a little fucking brat that I'm personally attacking you when I'm pointing out all the flaws in your pathetic excuse for a debate against me. You have the nerve to claim you know debating or anything when I've provided clear evidence to back up my claims where as you just assume things.
That's why you a fucking incompetent debater and that's why I am showing you now what a true personal insult it. So kindly fuck off from this thread till you learn to fucking provide a decent attempt at apologising for calling me a child (and now stupid, funny how you bitch about personal attacks but make them yourself), making a straw man argument and accusing me of things I have not done.
Twat. In fact, any twat like you who dares speak to me like you have will be placed on my foe list here on out. I debate with intelligent people, not cavemen.
Yeah, I'm personally attacking you...
You are an incompetent moron.
That's why you a fucking incompetent debater
Twat.
Then you bitch and whine like a little fucking brat
I'll be the bigger person and let this little girl stomp around and throw a fit. Have you ever heard of saying your opinion, and not shouting it? Do you attack people online because you yourself are ignored in real life? Just keep in mind, you little girl, even in a land of babies, a toddler seems to grow up.
You are an incompetent moron.
That's why you a fucking incompetent debater
Twat.
Then you bitch and whine like a little fucking brat
I'll be the bigger person and let this little girl stomp around and throw a fit. Have you ever heard of saying your opinion, and not shouting it? Do you attack people online because you yourself are ignored in real life? Just keep in mind, you little girl, even in a land of babies, a toddler seems to grow up.
<3 you too.
I love how you take the quotes from a post where I said I would show you what personally attacking is really like, and not the posts before where you claimed I was insulting you. Just shows you up to be an even bigger moron.
dynastygal said:
I find people who wish to make sin laws disgusting. Prohibition was an attempt by the federal government at clean ueginics. Alchohal & tobacco are legal because people want to drink & smoke. No one is tieing you down & pouring liquour down your throat nor are they forcing you to smoke. However your backwards, unconstitutional views of alchohal & tobacco are irrelevant in this debate. We are here to discuss Marijuana which is less addictive than tobacco & has much less health complications. Regardless of your personal views on the morality of marijuana, the government has no constitutional right to ban marijuana for medical uses or otherwise.
Once again, it all comes down to the government being allowed to tax marijuana, but without looking bad at the same time for allowing it just so they can tax it. All drugs, legal or not, have pros and cons, but ultimately the legal factor comes down to the allowance of taxation.
civilwarrocks said:
I find people who wish to make sin laws disgusting. Prohibition was an attempt by the federal government at clean ueginics. Alchohal & tobacco are legal because people want to drink & smoke. No one is tieing you down & pouring liquour down your throat nor are they forcing you to smoke. However your backwards, unconstitutional views of alchohal & tobacco are irrelevant in this debate. We are here to discuss Marijuana which is less addictive than tobacco & has much less health complications. Regardless of your personal views on the morality of marijuana, the government has no constitutional right to ban marijuana for medical uses or otherwise.[/quote]
This person has their shit figured out. +rep
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