[NCAA Football] Paterno Statue Removed

[JetWing34]

The statue of the late Nebulous Paterno, head coach from 1966 to the firing during the 2011 season who died in January 2012, was removed Sunday morning from its pedestal outside Beaver Stadium, and it will be stored in an unnamed secure location, Penn State president Rodney Erickson announced. Erickson also said the Paterno name will remain on the university's library.



http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8188530/Nebulous-paterno-statue-removed-penn-state-university-beaver-stadium



[font=comic sans ms, cursive]Do you agree with the removal of the statue?

 

[DrLeftover]

After all the kids Paterno raped, and then not doing anything else for the university or the community at all, ever, of course they should bow to Political Correctness, and they should vacate every win by the team since 1960, tear down the library, and do away with anything and everything he ever touched, and while they're at it, cancel the football program.



Of Course.



Right?



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Bunch of flaming arsewholes trying to make themselves look good after the fact and blame a dead man for their own stupidity.

 

[Fatal Dawn]

I was up in State College yesterday to visit the statue, the Bryce Jordan Center, and Beaver Stadium. I'm surprised they removed it so early when the President indicated otherwise. And don't even dare try to make this about political correctness. Coach Paterno had his role to play in covering up what happened there. And I want to know which flaming arsewholes you are talking about. To be honest, I have a great deal of respect for President Erickson. He communicates with the community more than Spanier ever did. I respect his decision for looking out for the best interest of the University instead of the legacy of one coach.

http://live.psu.edu/story/60474#nw4

 

[DrLeftover]

Essentially Paterno's only crime was respecting the chain of command and assuming his superiors would do their jobs.



At the time, he did what was required when he was told what he was told there was something going on he was not told, per court testimony, that Sandusky was raping a kid. Go look it up.



Perhaps he should have followed up to make sure something was done, and why he didn't we'll never know. But he acted by the letter of the law at the time. You cannot apply 2012 standards to an event in the past.



He had the word of one coach against another, he didn't directly see anything. Maybe he should have done a lot of things, but he did what he was required to do.



I find it funny how the report 'blames the dead guy' instead of the coach that witnessed the event and should have called the cops at the time.



So again, you have an administration in damage control mode doing nothing but making a bad situation worse.



And tomorrow, the NCAA will make it a lot worse.



NOTHING done today by anybody involved will prevent this from happening again when another predator goes after another kid in a locker room.

 

[Fatal Dawn]

You're right. McQueary should face hell for basically walking away from an abuse-in-progress and not reporting it to the police. However, I am not here to debate the sketchy details about what Paterno had or hadn't heard from McQueary when he was reporting up the chain of command.



Paterno pretty much did the bare minimum in his power to prod the issue. He did as he was legally obligated to do in sending up to the chain of command. However, it's not enough. Get the police involved, and make sure the issue was being investigated because it was a very serious accusation. Especially considering how much clout this guy had.



The report provides a pretty good idea for why he never followed up on the issue. He (Paterno) was probably looking out for the best interests of the football program. Many historical accounts were taken into consideration during the course of investigation. And the report goes into detail about others who had their part to play, instead of shouldering the blame entirely on Paterno. The whole line of command was given a black eye for their sheer inaction (including Paterno) which is the heart of what I'm trying to say. Now all the administration can do is try to save face. I hope the NCAA doesn't throw down the death penalty on the University.

 

[DrLeftover]

(Reuters) - The governing body of U.S. college sports took sweeping, unprecedented action against Penn State University's revered football program on Monday in response to a child sex abuse scandal, fining the school $60 million and voiding the team's victories for the past 14 seasons.

While the school was not given the so-called death penalty that could have suspended its football program, it was banned from post-season bowl games for four years and had the number of scholarships available to players reduced from 15 to 25.

http://www.reuters.c...E86L07F20120723

The Big Ten Conference issued its own penalties Monday to Penn State, banning the school's football team from appearing in the Big Ten championship game for four years and stating the school won't receive any conference bowl revenue during that same span.

That revenue is estimated to total about $13 million, bringing the grand total Penn State has been fined to $73 million. Earlier Monday, the NCAA announced its own sanctions against Penn State, which included a $60-million fine.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-big-ten-penn-state-20120723,0,257634.story







Happy, now?

 

[Fatal Dawn]

No..?

As a Penn State fan and collegiate, why would find any elation in all of this?



I feel they did what needed to be done, though.

 

[JetWing34]

Alrighty then...Penn State, with 1998 and '99 W's vacated, along with 2010 and last season and all of last decade, the Nittany Lions have well-deserved their death penalty. Now they're winless in the 2000s with the vacated wins.



Would be epic if the NCAA permanently ban the football program from bowl games and have all their wins, scores from wins, and stats from wins to not count.

 

[DrLeftover]

Why stop there?



Just ban the sport altogether and spare a lot of young men multiple traumatic brain and spine injuries.

 

[JetWing34]

Football may be dying due to a massive amount of head injuries, but the Penn State program is just about dead. All they want to do is to win the national championship and help raise the Coaches Trophy awarded to the championship winning school.