New York reaches outline of settlement over Muslim surveillance

[Jazzy]

New York has reached the outline of a legal settlement with Muslims over police surveillance, a filing in the two-year-old lawsuit said.

The suit in Brooklyn federal court alleged that the New York Police Department had trampled on religious liberties and constitutional guarantees of equality by monitoring Muslim communities.

The June 2013 suit filed by the New York Civil Liberties Union was part of a battle between the police department and civil liberties advocates over the department's policing tactics.

"The parties have reached a settlement in principle," lawyers for the city said in a letter filed with U.S. Magistrate Judge James Orenstein on Friday.

The settlement is contingent on several details being worked out and on lawyers' consultation with those who brought the suit, the letter said.

The lawsuit was brought by a charity, religious leaders and mosques. It sought to put an end to police surveillance of Muslims, the destruction of records on people resulting from the program and the appointment of an independent monitor to oversee the department.

A similar lawsuit is before a federal appeals court in Philadelphia after a New Jersey federal judge dismissed it last year.

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Thoughts?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Yes lets destroy all the surveillance and records from the religion that is causing tens of thousands to die every month around the world. The muslim religion in America from the latest survey believe Sharia Law should be the law of the land and would murder every atheist, gay person and Jew in America tomorrow if they could. Great idea!

 

[Jazzy]

Let us recall the terrorism that was or was about to be perpetrated by members of the Muslim community: the Times Square bomber, the airline shoe bomber, the fuel lines at Kennedy Airport bomber, the Riverdale synagogue bombers, the Lackawanna Six in Buffalo, the 2004 NYC attempted subway bombers, the subway and bus bombers in London and Madrid, LA airport shooting, 2009 Fort Hood mass murder, and then there is the WTC on 9/11. I have only scratched the surface.

And some court is insane enough to rule that we're NOT supposed to be looking at these trouble makers? Ridiculous.

 

[DrLeftover]

Another case of where the facts do not matter.

Shall we call into evidence the way those who are not Muslim are treated in countries under their theocracy?

"No. That would be intolerant."

 

[Webster]

Yes lets destroy all the surveillance and records from the religion that is causing tens of thousands to die every month around the world. The muslim religion in America from the latest survey believe Sharia Law should be the law of the land and would murder every atheist, gay person and Jew in America tomorrow if they could. Great idea!

Let us recall the terrorism that was or was about to be perpetrated by members of the Muslim community: the Times Square bomber, the airline shoe bomber, the fuel lines at Kennedy Airport bomber, the Riverdale synagogue bombers, the Lackawanna Six in Buffalo, the 2004 NYC attempted subway bombers, the subway and bus bombers in London and Madrid, LA airport shooting, 2009 Fort Hood mass murder, and then there is the WTC on 9/11. I have only scratched the surface.

And some court is insane enough to rule that we're NOT supposed to be looking at these trouble makers? Ridiculous.

Another case of where the facts do not matter.

Shall we call into evidence the way those who are not Muslim are treated in countries under their theocracy?

"No. That would be intolerant."

This, this and this...agreed. *adds w/bitter deadpan* ...FWIW, the NYCLU better hope there's never another 9/11-style attack; if there ever is, they're gonna' look like rank idiots for doing this.

 

[DrLeftover]

no, my friend, they'll find somebody else to blame

 

[identityissues8]

If we're going to watch an entire section of the community, because a few idiots committed criminal acts, why not just watch everyone in general?
You can't profile people. It's so disgusting.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Except it is hardly by any means just a few idiots but instead tens millions.

Profiling works and the idea of wasting valuable resources profiling everyone is wasteful and ridiculous. It is not Christians, Amish, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Mormonism, Shinto, etc, etc, etc. No other religion is blowing up people and chopping off heads. So it is only common sense to profile the actual people or religion that is causing TERROR across the globe.

 

[identityissues8]

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[identityissues8]

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[Sinon]

"Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database"

"Between 1970 and 2011, 32 percent of the perpetrator groups were motivated by ethnonationalist/separatist agendas, 28 percent were motivated by single issues, such as animal rights or opposition to war, and seven percent were motivated by religious beliefs. In addition, 11 percent of the perpetrator groups were classified as extreme right-wing, and 22 percent were categorized as extreme left-wing."

Source: "Profiles of Perpetrators of Terrorism in the United States (PPT-US)" CLICK ME TO GET THE WHOLE STUDY

But yeah hate all the Muslims anyway I guess?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Sweet, so why don't we profile and watch police for shooting unarmed black men?

Sure if it was truly a wide spread problem instead of a great made up story for the press to rile up the public.

Or better yet, conservatives after the awful shooting in Charleston?

Except it was another left wing lunatic like all the rest.

Tens or millions of Muslims are a threat? You really believe that TL?

Does not matter if I believe it or not it is the facts.

Dude, I wish you lived closer so I could take you out and show you the mainstream Muslim community, I don't even have to wonder if you'd be impressed by the hospitality and love you would receive as a non-Muslim giving us the time of day without the biased hatred.
Seriously, try it. It will blow your mind - there is no comparison to true Islamic hospitality.

Never said they were all bad. I know there are great Muslims out there. But the facts are there is a problem within your religion.

With that said, yes it is Jews, Christians, Buddhists etc.
Christians in the form of the US Military, and the KKK.
Jews in the form of Israel.

We will ever so strongly agree to disagree with that statement.

And Buddhists, just look at the plight of the Rohingya people of Myanmar.

Weak!

It's not that people of no other religious persuasion causes awful acts. It's that when they do it's swept under the rug.

No its just not in the shear numbers of acts of brutality on almost every continent in the world.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

"Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database"

"Between 1970 and 2011, 32 percent of the perpetrator groups were motivated by ethnonationalist/separatist agendas, 28 percent were motivated by single issues, such as animal rights or opposition to war, and seven percent were motivated by religious beliefs. In addition, 11 percent of the perpetrator groups were classified as extreme right-wing, and 22 percent were categorized as extreme left-wing."

Source: "Profiles of Perpetrators of Terrorism in the United States (PPT-US)" CLICK ME TO GET THE WHOLE STUDY

But yeah hate all the Muslims anyway I guess?

Now lets see out of all those groups which one caused the biggest terrorist attack America has ever seen? Anyways you can just put left wing nut cases and Islamic extremists together in one group since there ideology is so much alike.