Obama State of the Union 2015 Address: President's [FULL] SOTU Speech Today on 1/20/1

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Obama State of the Union 2015 Address: President's [FULL] SOTU Speech Today on 1/20/15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8LqG_Ld0Dw



any words?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I watched HGTV as soon as that criminal came on the air. Could not stand watching a hour of constant lies and socialist ideas he wants to put forth with other peoples money.

 

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I watched HGTV as soon as that criminal came on the air. Could not stand watching a hour of constant lies and socialist ideas he wants to put forth with other peoples money.

you agree with socialist ideas...

what's your point?

you say this is socialist and that's socialist...

if you're for any type of tax than you're a socialist...

if you're for a police/fire/military force that's being paid for by the tax payers than you have socialist ideas...

if you're for war or anything else that's being paid for by the american tax dollar than you have socialist ideas...

 

[Webster]

.....best thought on the President's SOTU, as noted by the conservative blog Gay Patriot:

 

[+paradox]

a gay conservative...

ain't that like a black kkk member?

or a white black panther member?

or a black person that supports slavery?

or a female that's for rape?

or a christian that's against christ jesus?

or a musician that hates music?

i mean, i got millions of these...

 

[DrLeftover]

See thread: http://offtopix.com/showthread.php?tid=33848

 

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See thread: http://offtopix.com/showthread.php?tid=33848

thanks...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I watched HGTV as soon as that criminal came on the air. Could not stand watching a hour of constant lies and socialist ideas he wants to put forth with other peoples money.

you agree with socialist ideas...

what's your point?

you say this is socialist and that's socialist...

if you're for any type of tax than you're a socialist...

if you're for a police/fire/military force that's being paid for by the tax payers than you have socialist ideas...

if you're for war or anything else that's being paid for by the american tax dollar than you have socialist ideas...

Oh no! Certain taxes are required to run a country under the Constitution. Money taken from one individual and given to another by government is socialism. Having government supply courts, police and military is not socialism.


Nobody with any sense is for war. But anybody with any sense knows war is necessary for people to live under freedom and free of such things like socialism.

 

[+paradox]

I watched HGTV as soon as that criminal came on the air. Could not stand watching a hour of constant lies and socialist ideas he wants to put forth with other peoples money.

you agree with socialist ideas...

what's your point?

you say this is socialist and that's socialist...

if you're for any type of tax than you're a socialist...

if you're for a police/fire/military force that's being paid for by the tax payers than you have socialist ideas...

if you're for war or anything else that's being paid for by the american tax dollar than you have socialist ideas...

Oh no! Certain taxes are required to run a country under the Constitution. Money taken from one individual and given to another by government is socialism. Having government supply courts, police and military is not socialism.
oh yes, it's the same thing, redistribution of wealth... same thing, but the government tries to make it seem like it's not... you're taking money from people and giving it to others, that's the direct definition of redistribution of wealth... therefor, socialism...

Nobody with any sense is for war. But anybody with any sense knows war is necessary for people to live under freedom and free of such things like socialism.
obviously you're always for war and murder by the way you talk... the last 2 wars, we invaded third world countries unprovoked, and murdered a million people, destroyed people's homes, cities and countries... bush lied to the american public multiple times for the reasons he was going to war with iraq, and he didn't have any exit plans or nothing, he just waited until he was done with office to make somebody else deal with his mess... the iraq war should have never happened, it was a sham and a shame... and now look at the region? it's crazy worse than when saddam was in power... with thousands of americans wounded and killed... and they weren't protecting the united states nor america's freedoms or american's liberty...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I watched HGTV as soon as that criminal came on the air. Could not stand watching a hour of constant lies and socialist ideas he wants to put forth with other peoples money.

you agree with socialist ideas...

what's your point?

you say this is socialist and that's socialist...

if you're for any type of tax than you're a socialist...

if you're for a police/fire/military force that's being paid for by the tax payers than you have socialist ideas...

if you're for war or anything else that's being paid for by the american tax dollar than you have socialist ideas...

Oh no! Certain taxes are required to run a country under the Constitution. Money taken from one individual and given to another by government is socialism. Having government supply courts, police and military is not socialism.
oh yes, it's the same thing, redistribution of wealth... same thing, but the government tries to make it seem like it's not... you're taking money from people and giving it to others, that's the direct definition of redistribution of wealth... therefor, socialism...




Nobody with any sense is for war. But anybody with any sense knows war is necessary for people to live under freedom and free of such things like socialism.
obviously you're always for war and murder by the way you talk... the last 2 wars, we invaded third world countries unprovoked, and murdered a million people, destroyed people homes, cities and countries... bust lied to the american public multiple times for the reasons he was going to war with iraq, and he didn't have any exit plans or nothing, he just waited until he was done with office to make somebody else deal with his mess... the iraq was should have never happened, it was a sham and a shame... and now look at the region? it's crazy worse than when saddam was in power... with thousands of americans wounded and killed... and they weren't protecting the united states nor america's freedoms or american's liberty...

It is not even remotely the same thing. You are using taxes to give people freedoms to pursue what they want to do under the safety of a limited government called a Republic which is what we supposed to be. Not a government that takes freedoms and forces people to do what the government thinks what is good for all people and that is socialism. You are talking about redistribution of wealth that goes to a individual so we can take care of there needs. Under a true republic of what our Constitution is supposed to is allow you to succeed and or fail yourself and only provide the protections of courts, police and military and fair laws. Thats it! The rest is up to you to make of that freedom not socialism what you want with it.



I am for war when they are needed and those two were needed. The issues I have with those wars is how we fought it and ended it. Other then that I disagree with the premise you wrote.

 

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I watched HGTV as soon as that criminal came on the air. Could not stand watching a hour of constant lies and socialist ideas he wants to put forth with other peoples money.

you agree with socialist ideas...

what's your point?

you say this is socialist and that's socialist...

if you're for any type of tax than you're a socialist...

if you're for a police/fire/military force that's being paid for by the tax payers than you have socialist ideas...

if you're for war or anything else that's being paid for by the american tax dollar than you have socialist ideas...

Oh no! Certain taxes are required to run a country under the Constitution. Money taken from one individual and given to another by government is socialism. Having government supply courts, police and military is not socialism.
oh yes, it's the same thing, redistribution of wealth... same thing, but the government tries to make it seem like it's not... you're taking money from people and giving it to others, that's the direct definition of redistribution of wealth... therefor, socialism...




Nobody with any sense is for war. But anybody with any sense knows war is necessary for people to live under freedom and free of such things like socialism.
obviously you're always for war and murder by the way you talk... the last 2 wars, we invaded third world countries unprovoked, and murdered a million people, destroyed people homes, cities and countries... bust lied to the american public multiple times for the reasons he was going to war with iraq, and he didn't have any exit plans or nothing, he just waited until he was done with office to make somebody else deal with his mess... the iraq was should have never happened, it was a sham and a shame... and now look at the region? it's crazy worse than when saddam was in power... with thousands of americans wounded and killed... and they weren't protecting the united states nor america's freedoms or american's liberty...

It is not even remotely the same thing.
it is exactly the same thing...

You are using taxes to give people freedoms to pursue what they want to do under the safety of a limited government called a Republic which is what we supposed to be.
you do realize that this country changed government type many times fold over it's existence, right? and guess what, the liberals weren't the ones that kept changing this country... it was the wealthy and the elite, far from the poor liberals...

Not a government that takes freedoms and forces people to do what the government thinks what is good for all people and that is socialism.
like how the republicans love to take from the poor and give to the rich? like how bush jr. signed into law the patriot act which completely destroyed the constitution? you're denying the fact that the government is completely socialist because of tax and then some... and no, you can't just blame the poor liberals and the democrats either... get real...

You are talking about redistribution of wealth that goes to a individual so we can take care of there needs.
there's no difference between them... both taking money and giving money to others... what ever you want to call it, both are exactly the same thing...

Under a true republic of what our Constitution is supposed to is allow you to succeed and or fail yourself and only provide the protections of courts, police and military and fair laws. Thats it!
and how do you know this? is there something that stands behind your claim in the constitution?

The rest is up to you to make of that freedom not socialism what you want with it.
just like how the government, of both top parties love to bail out banks, corporations and businesses of their friends when they become bankrupt?


I am for war when they are needed and those two were needed.
and why were they needed? because of the lies and fallacy of iraq had wmd's and that afghanistan or the people inside the country did 9/11? and both are false...

The issues I have with those wars is how we fought it and ended it. Other then that I disagree with the premise you wrote.
so, you don't agree with me that both wars were a sham and a shame but you do agree that there were issues how bush fought it and didn't have a clue of ending them?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

No as clearly stated it is not even close to what you are suggesting.


Okay? That has nothing to do with what we are discussing.


Again nothing to do with what we are discussing.


But they are not the same. Not even close. We are taking tax payer money and are using it to provide a service of value so people can pursue freely what they want to do. Socialism takes tax payers money and uses it for people who provide no service and also uses it for more then just allowing people to do what they want with there freedoms and on top of that limiting those freedoms with my money.


From our own founding fathers words.


Again nothing to do with what we are discussing.


Again nothing to do with what we are discussing.


Yes!

 

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No as clearly stated it is not even close to what you are suggesting.
yes, as i clearly stated it is the same thing...

Okay? That has nothing to do with what we are discussing.
just giving you some truth, that's all... and it is relevant...

Again nothing to do with what we are discussing.
again, relevant truth, but i guess you don't like the truth...

But they are not the same. Not even close. We are taking tax payer money and are using it to provide a service of value so people can pursue freely what they want to do. Socialism takes tax payers money and uses it for people who provide no service and also uses it for more then just allowing people to do what they want with there freedoms and on top of that limiting those freedoms with my money.
but they are the same, taking money and giving it to others is the same as giving other people's money to people...

From our own founding fathers words.
which document, care to link?

Again nothing to do with what we are discussing.
again, it's relevant truth that you can't handle...

Again nothing to do with what we are discussing.
again, truth of relevance that goes against your politics and frame of mind...

Yes!
good talk and good game...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

But it isn't and makes no sense on top of that.


Could be some truth in there if this was a subject we discussing but has no relevance on this discussion.


Again there might be a little truth in there but has no relevance to the subject we are talking about.


No it is not the same. And trying to make it so is humorous.


Documents? From there own journals and letters written over the course of there lives.


No, it is not truth of relevance of any sort.