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One nation, under no duty to retreat

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Florida's notoriety as the "shoot first" state grows by the day. As its citizens pull guns on one another at gas stations and on basketball courts, at birthday parties and in movie theaters, the perception grows that the state's 2005 "stand your ground" law made it a safe haven for killers. • But like many caricatures of the Sunshine State, this one is too simple. The truth is that Florida did not pioneer the controversial rules of justifiable homicide it adopted nine years ago — though the rules' effects here might serve as a warning for other states. • The debate over "stand your ground" laws has never been more urgent than in the last eight months, a period in which Florida juries have twice delivered verdicts in heavily publicized murder trials that ignited the scorn of gun control and civil rights activists.

The July 2013 acquittal of George Zimmerman and the conviction on lesser charges last month of Michael Dunn — each had fatally shot a black teenager — renewed criticism of the laws, which erased the duty to retreat from violent confrontations.

Critics as prominent as U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder argue that such statutes, enacted by legislatures in Florida and 21 other states under pressure from the National Rifle Association, have emboldened gunmen and made it harder to bring them to justice once they are caught.

Some critics of Florida's law have also focused on its requirement that citizens must have a "reasonable belief" in a threat before using deadly force, not that the threat actually exist. But in this regard, Florida is even less of an outlier.

The idea that "reasonable belief" in a threat justifies homicide prevails throughout the country, according to legal experts. It is not, as some observers have claimed, carte blanche for killers to act on ungrounded fears, but a test of what an ordinary, rational person would do in the same circumstances.

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Debate statement:
We have no duty to retreat and have the right to stand our ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if we "reasonably believed" that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself.

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Do you agree or disagree with the debate statement? (please explain your answer)
 
What keeps being portrayed is the Zimmerman shooting was a stand your ground when it was no such thing.

The gas station shooting the law and courts did its job and I dont think there is any dispute he was guilty unlike the zimmerman trial. Plus this guy was obviously off in the mind and dont think stand your ground would have made the outcome any different.

And the ex cop who did not like popcorn thrown in face at the movie theater is going to have the same fate as the gas station trial. Guilty.

Have not heard about the basketball and birthday party shooting.

So we have a couple of high profile cases but they sure dont like to talk about all the lives saved from stand your ground. And specially it saving much more black lives then whites in Florida. But racists scum bags like Al Sharpton does not fit there agenda of spreading division.

Blacks benefit from Florida ‘Stand Your Ground’ law at disproportionate rate

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/16/blacks-benefit-from-florida-stand-your-ground-law-at-disproportionate-rate/#ixzz2vhAVo5q8

And the fact crime rates have been dropping since stand your ground laws have been enacted the state is going to expand the law even further.

Florida Expanding 'Stand Your Ground' Law
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/09/Florida-Expanding-Stand-Your-Ground-Law

Next push is to get open carry in the state. Im would bet Trayvon would have never attacked Zimmerman if he was open carrying his gun.

Stand your ground in Florida is not going anywhere. Our state government is in support of it and the overall majority of the people here are for it. The federal government needs to stay the hell out of Florida.

Florida House Overwhelmingly Votes to Keep Stand Your Ground Law
http://gunssavelives.net/blog/gun-laws/breaking-florida-house-overwhelmingly-votes-to-keep-stand-your-ground-law/#
 
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