Poll of U.S. Muslims Reveals Ominous Levels Of Support For Shariah, Jihad "We have a serious problem

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I wonder how many of these surveys straight from the mouths of Muslims combined with acts of continuous violence before people realize far, far from a majority actually want to be part of the country the decided to live in but instead mold it into there religion.

In light of the murder of five American military personnel in Chattanooga last week at the hands of presumed jihadist Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez, it's worth revisiting a worrying poll of American Muslims released last month by Frank Gaffney's Center for Security Policy (CSP). That survey of 600 Muslims revealed that "significant minorities embrace supremacist notions that could pose a threat to America’s security and its constitutional form of government."

As CSP notes,

The numbers of potential jihadists among the majority of Muslims who appear not to be sympathetic to such notions raise a number of public policy choices that warrant careful consideration and urgent debate, including: the necessity for enhanced surveillance of Muslim communities; refugee resettlement, asylum and other immigration programs that are swelling their numbers and density; and the viability of so-called “countering violent extremism” initiatives that are supposed to stymie radicalization within those communities.

According to the survey, a slim majority (51%) agreed that “Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to shariah.” That's 51% as opposed to the 86%-2% margin of respondents from the broader population in an earlier national survey who held that "shariah should not displace the U.S. Constitution."

Again, a slim majority (51%) of U.S. Muslims polled also believe either that they should have the choice of American or shariah courts, or that they should have their own tribunals to apply shariah. Only 39% of those polled said that Muslims in the U.S. should be subject to American courts.

Respondents from the national survey believe by a margin of 92%-2% that Muslims should be subject to the same courts as other citizens here in the U.S.

The CSP continued:

Even more troubling, is the fact that nearly a quarter of the Muslims polled believed that, “It is legitimate to use violence to punish those who give offense to Islam by, for example, portraying the prophet Mohammed.”

By contrast, the broader survey found that a 63% majority of those sampled said that “the freedom to engage in expression that offends Muslims or anybody else is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and cannot be restricted.”

Nearly one-fifth of Muslim respondents said that the use of violence in the United States is justified in order to make shariah the law of the land in this country.

CSP President Frank Gaffney, Jr. observed:

The findings of the Center for Security Policy’s survey of Muslims in America suggests that we have a serious problem. The Pew Research Center estimates that the number of Muslims in the United States was 2.75 million in 2011, and growing at a rate of 80-90 thousand a year. If those estimates are accurate, the United States would have approximately 3 million Muslims today. That would translate into roughly 300,000 Muslims living in the United States who believe that shariah is “The Muslim God Allah’s law that Muslims must follow and impose worldwide by Jihad.”

It is incumbent on the many American Muslims who want neither to live under the brutal repression of shariah nor to impose it on anybody else to work with the rest of us who revere and uphold the supremacy of the U.S. Constitution in protecting our nation against the Islamic supremacists and their jihad.
See the actual poll here.

 

[DrLeftover]

Like I've been saying


"get used to it"

 

[Jazzy]

From another source:

Estimates range that between 5 to 12 million Muslims live in the United States. About one-third of them are African-Americans. Another third are originally from the Indian subcontinent, including Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. The last third include Arab immigrants, Latinos, other European and Caucasian Muslims, and converts to Islam.

From your posted article:

A worrying poll of American Muslims released last month by Frank Gaffney's Center for Security Policy (CSP). That survey of 600 Muslims revealed that "significant minorities embrace supremacist notions that could pose a threat to America’s security and its constitutional form of government."

I would hardly call a survey of only 600 Muslims "Reveals Ominous Levels Of Support For Shariah, Jihad and "We have a serious problem" as per the title of your thread. Quite laughable to be honest with you.....

 

[DrLeftover]

However, in certain quarters, being a "moderate" Muslim or supporting a "secular" society instead of Sharia makes one guilty of Apostasy and they should be killed.

Remember the infamous articles covering the statement of the "unofficial" Muslim chaplain at Harvard?

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2...ail-sparks-controversy-span-stylefont-weight/

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

From another source:


From your posted article:


I would hardly call a survey of only 600 Muslims "Reveals Ominous Levels Of Support For Shariah, Jihad and "We have a serious problem" as per the title of your thread. Quite laughable to be honest with you.....

As I said no matter how much evidence people get it will be ignored. How many people would be exceptable? I mean I have posted a much larger poll done on many occasions. I'd be happy to post that one again if you like.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

However, in certain quarters, being a "moderate" Muslim or supporting a "secular" society instead of Sharia makes one guilty of Apostasy and they should be killed.

Remember the infamous articles covering the statement of the "unofficial" Muslim chaplain at Harvard?

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2...ail-sparks-controversy-span-stylefont-weight/

Moderate just means a quiet supporter of radicals.

 

[Jazzy]

As I said no matter how much evidence people get it will be ignored.

What evidence? 600 out of 5 to 12 million Muslims living in the United States, is what I consider NO evidence to back up anything contained in your OP article.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

What evidence? 600 out of 5 to 12 million Muslims living in the United States, is what I consider NO evidence to back up anything contained in your OP article.

The evidence in the original article. Again how many is acceptable because most polls do from several hundred to several thousand to get a idea of what all 300 million Americans aret thinking. But I have a feeling even if the poll had every Muslim in America in this poll people would still be in denial of the evidence.

 

[Jazzy]

The evidence in the original article. Again how many is acceptable because most polls do from several hundred to several thousand to get a idea of what all 300 million Americans aret thinking. But I have a feeling even if the poll had every Muslim in America in this poll people would still be in denial of the evidence.

Once again, there is no evidence. There is a conclusion being made by CSP President Frank Gaffney, Jr. without any proof. I will highlight that in bold for you:

CSP President Frank Gaffney, Jr. observed:
The findings of the Center for Security Policy’s survey of Muslims in America suggests that we have a serious problem. The Pew Research Center estimates that the number of Muslims in the United States was 2.75 million in 2011, and growing at a rate of 80-90 thousand a year. If those estimates are accurate, the United States would have approximately 3 million Muslims today. That would translate into roughly 300,000 Muslims living in the United States who believe that shariah is “The Muslim God Allah’s law that Muslims must follow and impose worldwide by Jihad.”

Now, go find me a poll with roughly 300,000 Muslims to prove what I bolded. Thanks in advance and good luck.

 

[DrLeftover]

Another problem is that many Muslims believe speaking to outsiders about such a thing is haraam (forbidden).

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Once again, there is no evidence. There is a conclusion being made by CSP President Frank Gaffney, Jr. without any proof. I will highlight that in bold for you:


Now, go find me a poll with roughly 300,000 Muslims to prove what I bolded. Thanks in advance and good luck.

Once again that would be a wrong conclusion that this is not evidence. This is very clear evidence of where the Muslim population is going.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

But we can clearly see where we are going by this poll if we do not reverse the trend here.

 

[Webster]

But we can clearly see where we are going by this poll if we do not reverse the trend here.

....I'm becoming more & more convinced, Liberty, that there is no such thing as a "moderate" Muslim....somewhere, Samuel Huntington is shaking his head and going, "And people thought I was nuts to suggest a clash of civilizations back in the early 1990's..."

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I just hate the word moderate which to me suggests some tendency to have radical thinking. For me ANY Muslim that thinks women should dress up like a rolled up rug to not be seen and would be killed or out casted if not obeyed is a radical nut. And this not even the middle east we are talking about, this is Europe and America where this kind of thinking disease has spread to.