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I joined another forum and after my first post, when I tried to post again, I got a message: "You must wait 30 seconds before posting again." It was seriously pissing me off. I don't have a damn countdown timer. :mad: Needless to say, I am not going back there.

Have you ever seen this on a forum? Would this piss you off too?
 
It generally doesn't affect me if it exists because I take time posting, and I don't go near forum games >_>
 
With the way I post, I likely rarely even know there was one. The restriction is usually in place to prevent spam attacks, and low quality posts. I normally only care to post in something when I feel I have something meaningful to say which isn't often as one might have figured out from my low post count in relation to how long I've been a member here for example.
 
Thirty seconds is a bit high. I'm not keen on automated moderation, but if I was going to use it I'd set it for 10 seconds.

That'd still frustrate the spammers, but give more flexibility for tweet size posting.
 
I personally think it's a bit high as well but people see things differently. If it was too much of a bother then I state that I felt it was too high and if they didn't want to change then I would just leave. I really have no right to be angry because someone runs their forum contrary to how I would. It also doesn't mean I need to stay there if I don't like how it's run.
 
I just saw a suggestion made on that forum from 2 days ago. The member was complaining that the wait time of 60 seconds was way too long. The admin cut it to 30 seconds. The member then stated that was too long as well and asked for 15 seconds. The admin wouldn't budge. The member who made the suggestion was not happy and asked for his account to be deleted. IMO, this forum is going to keep losing members with this 30 second wait. But, as stated, by Bluezone777 if this is how the admin wants to run his/her forum, then it's his/her right to keep the 30 second wait.
 
The best way to handle spam bots is to have security measures in place to keep them from registering to begin with. Flood limit does nothing but inconvenience the non-spam-bot human members.
 
Post wait times are effective when it comes to spambot attacks. But what about bypassing it only when the user wants to post on TWO different threads?
 
Nebulous said:
The best way to handle spam bots is to have security measures in place to keep them from registering to begin with. Flood limit does nothing but inconvenience the non-spam-bot human members.

True story, and with KeyCaptcha there's no excuse for any admin to have to worry about spam bots.

That service is a godsend.
 
Evil Teddy Bear of Doom said:
Nebulous said:
The best way to handle spam bots is to have security measures in place to keep them from registering to begin with. Flood limit does nothing but inconvenience the non-spam-bot human members.

True story, and with KeyCaptcha there's no excuse for any admin to have to worry about spam bots.

That service is a godsend.

There's another option for stand alone forums that works awesome too. There's a mod that prevents spambots from even accessing the forums by using a database of all known bots (IP, nickname, email, etc).

I used to use it on a forum a while ago. After it was installed spambots didn't bother us at all anymore.


As for flood control, I've never seen the use. Ppl will make spam posts regardless, they just wait a couple of second before pressing post...
 
Kirito said:
Evil Teddy Bear of Doom said:
Nebulous said:
The best way to handle spam bots is to have security measures in place to keep them from registering to begin with. Flood limit does nothing but inconvenience the non-spam-bot human members.

True story, and with KeyCaptcha there's no excuse for any admin to have to worry about spam bots.

That service is a godsend.
There's a mod that prevents spambots from even accessing the forums by using a database of all known bots (IP, nickname, email, etc).

We have that here too but I only have it set to check email address's because IP's can be recycled to different people and usernames can be used by other (non-spam bot) people.
 
Kirito said:
Evil Teddy Bear of Doom said:
Nebulous said:
The best way to handle spam bots is to have security measures in place to keep them from registering to begin with. Flood limit does nothing but inconvenience the non-spam-bot human members.

True story, and with KeyCaptcha there's no excuse for any admin to have to worry about spam bots.

That service is a godsend.

There's another option for stand alone forums that works awesome too. There's a mod that prevents spambots from even accessing the forums by using a database of all known bots (IP, nickname, email, etc).

I used to use it on a forum a while ago. After it was installed spambots didn't bother us at all anymore.

Project Honeypot is a quality service, but Stop Forum Spam is an amateur hack of a website that requires absolutely no confirmation that the details manually submitted to the database are actually spambots. This means any corrupt admin can basically blacklist a person they simply do not like from any site that utilizes the Stop Forum Spam service.

Project Honeypot uses a method of collating spambot IP's that doesn't rely on manual submissions, which makes it a much more effective tool.

As I've said in the past, I'm distrustful of anybody that leans too heavily on automated moderation. Allowing scripts to do one's job without discrimination surrenders too much control and removes the human element which turns forums into zombified bureaucracies.
 
Well, captcha doesn't stop any spam bot anymore, so where does that leave admins? Deleting a 100 posts and 100 members a day once you're targetted?

Stop forum spam does a very decent job for a free service and I've yet to see big amounts of blacklisted real people causing any drama. In a month we stopped nearly 10 000 spam bots from accessing our forum, that's pretty great for an amateur hack of a website...
 
Kirito said:
Stop forum spam does a very decent job for a free service and I've yet to see big amounts of blacklisted real people causing any drama. In a month we stopped nearly 10 000 spam bots from accessing our forum, that's pretty great for an amateur hack of a website...

SFS IIRC was used on QX Community, since it was getting spambot registrations with hard-to-remember usernames. Captcha codes are effective too.
 
Kirito said:
Well, captcha doesn't stop any spam bot anymore, so where does that leave admins? Deleting a 100 posts and 100 members a day once you're targetted?

Stop forum spam does a very decent job for a free service and I've yet to see big amounts of blacklisted real people causing any drama. In a month we stopped nearly 10 000 spam bots from accessing our forum, that's pretty great for an amateur hack of a website...

KeyCaptcha is all I use to prevent spambots, and I haven't had a single automated sign-up in the 3 years I've had it.

StopForumSpam is a seriously flawed service that is open to abuse (as I've experienced first hand), so I'll continue to attempt to educate people. It's quite simple to verify everything I've said about them.

I'll take secure and reliable over mass shun any day.
 
I'm a member of a forum with flood control. Don't really post there, just lurk.
They up it to 60s or more when a new game comes out and a lot of new people all start posting the same stuff :P
 
Jazzy said:
I joined another forum and after my first post, when I tried to post again, I got a message: "You must wait 30 seconds before posting again." It was seriously pissing me off. I don't have a damn countdown timer. :mad: Needless to say, I am not going back there.

Have you ever seen this on a forum? Would this piss you off too?

Chill. It isn't a big-deal, and it's to prevent spam, it also gives a wag of finger to the classic "lol cool" kind-of posts. I don't necessarily enforce it on any of my forums, but I understand the logic, and it's most certainly not something to be "not going back" to a forum for. Yes, there are other ways to prevent spam, but I have posted on so many forums with this. As for the member that asked for his account to be deleted, Jesus Christ, can we can the over-dramatics? The admin's silly for not budging after people request it, but both are taking it too seriously.
 
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