Race card ain’t working for woman basketball player in Russia pleads guilty

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I’m betting she loving America now!

 

[Webster]

FWIW, I don't think its' so much the race card and more of the "Russia is milking her arrest and criminal process as much as possible", knowing that as high-profile as Ms. Griner is, they can priobably trade her back to the U.S. for someone of value to them.

That's all this is; anything else is incidental.

 

[Webster]

knowing that as high-profile as Ms. Griner is, they can priobably trade her back to the U.S. for someone of value to them.

And here's why Russia did what they did, @WHO IS SERAFIN....

Opinion | Take the Deal: Brittney Griner in Exchange for the ‘Merchant of Death’

Viktor Bout is responsible for unspeakable atrocities. But at this point, it’s not worth keeping him imprisoned if Biden can secure an innocent’s freedom.

www.politico.com

In November 2011, the notorious Russian weapons trafficker Viktor Bout was sentenced by a New York court to 25 years in prison for his crimes. In February 2022, Brittney Griner, the legendary WNBA basketball player, was arrested in Moscow for allegedly having illegal vape cartridges. Now Russia is reportedly asking for an exchange — the Merchant of Death for the All-Star.

Bout provided tons of guns and ammunition to some of the most vicious warlords in the world and empowered them to carry out unspeakable atrocities. He is responsible for enabling murderous groups to kidnap and train thousands of child soldiers; use rape as a systematic method of terror and control; torture through the mass amputations of arms, legs, ears and lips; slaughter civilians, and help the Taliban take power in Afghanistan. Griner may have been carrying vape cartridges that were banned in Russia but not in much of the world.

There is no parity in the negotiations or symmetry in the lives or actions of the two potential protagonists. But President Joe Biden should take the deal.

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So why even consider the potential offer? First, Bout is a spent force who will be out of jail in a few years anyway. His business depended on personal relationships and trust among the parties. After being out of the business for more than a decade, Bout has neither of those left in the shadowy world in which he once operated. Second, Bout needed access to a global network stretching from Afghanistan to Europe, Africa and South America. That network has morphed through several generations of new actors, markets and gatekeepers. Bout has no currency in that world now.

Finally, Bout depended in the early years on the gross negligence of the former Soviet states to allow him to simply fly out aircraft and weapons in a spree of de facto privatization of one of the world’s most advanced arsenals. In his later years, he was reined in by the Russian state under Putin, no longer able to freelance at will and without unfettered access to massive caches of weapons. It is unlikely he would have any freedom of movement in the weapons trade unless he was in the direct service of the Russian intelligence services, and now he is burned beyond the ability to be useful in any significant capacity.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

FWIW, I don't think its' so much the race card and more of the "Russia is milking her arrest and criminal process as much as possible", knowing that as high-profile as Ms. Griner is, they can priobably trade her back to the U.S. for someone of value to them.

That's all this is; anything else is incidental.

What I mean is here she would be claiming racism and where it might work here over there they don’t care about any of that.

 

[Webster]

What I mean is here she would be claiming racism and where it might work here over there they don’t care about any of that.

I get that but in the broader context it doesn't work here.

Yeah, she can play the race grievance card all she wants to...and we can call her out on it when she does.
That part I agree with you on.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I get that but in the broader context it doesn't work here.

Yeah, she can play the race grievance card all she wants to...and we can call her out on it when she does.
That part I agree with you on.

Doesn’t work here????? It works fantastic here in the democrat controlled states. Hell the 2020 riots show that.

 

[Webster]

Doesn’t work here????? It works fantastic here in the democrat controlled states. Hell the 2020 riots show that.

I meant with regards to her arrest in Russia.....

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I meant with regards to her arrest in Russia.....

Oh! From a list of ten million for considerations it’s ten billion! I think because Russia is the most hated country in the world right now she is going to be doing hard time

 

[Webster]

Oh! From a list of ten million for considerations it’s ten billion! I think because Russia is the most hated country in the world right now she is going to be doing hard time

Or like the Politico article said earlier, they'll trade her back to us for that arms dealer (who I suspect knows a lot of stuff they'd like to keep private)....in that respect, who's more valuable: Griner or Bout?

 

[Nebulous]

What drugs was she doing?

 

[Webster]

What drugs was she doing?

She got busted for trying to bring vape canisters with hashish oil in them into Russia.

 

[Nebulous]

She got busted for trying to bring vape canisters with hashish oil in them into Russia.

Wow, how harmless. 10 years for that?

 

[Webster]

Wow, how harmless. 10 years for that?

Yep.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Wow, how harmless. 10 years for that?

In ain’t about the drugs, the government is sending a message to America. She knew she was breaking the law and took a chance with a hostile government.

 

[Webster]

the government is sending a message to America.

Yeah, its' out of the hostage diplomacy playbook.

 

[Nebulous]

In ain’t about the drugs, the government is sending a message to America. She knew she was breaking the law and took a chance with a hostile government.

Bet she wont do that again!

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Bet she wont do that again!

If she survives

 

[Webster]

If she survives

Like I said, its' hostage diplomacy at work here.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Like I said, its' hostage diplomacy at work here.

She ain’t going anywhere unless we’re going to completely not get involved in Ukraine.

 

[Nebulous]

I heard them talking about this girl on Joe Rogan's podcast today.