Saudi Cleric: "Earth does NOT rotate"

[DrLeftover]

Watch: Saudi cleric tells students 'Earth does not rotate'
Sheikh Bandar al-Khaibari, a Saudi cleric, mocked on social media for claims about Earth's rotation made at lecture on anniversary of Galileo's birth


Sheikh Bandar al-Khaibari, answering questions from students at a university in the United Arab Emirates on Sunday, told his audience the Earth is "stationary and does not move".

With Video:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/11419428/Watch-Saudi-cleric-tells-students-Earth-does-not-rotate.html

 

[Evil Eye]

If we pick the Earth as reference point, I suppose that'd technically be true... His arguments are just a little sad though.

 

[seasidemike]

What a Gobshyte

 

[Webster]

What a Gobshyte

^ ^ ^
...what he said.

 

[+paradox]

What a Gobshyte

What a Gobshyte

^ ^ ^
...what he said.

haha, so funny!

 

[identityissues8]

Subhan'Allah.
He really needs to read a book or two.

 

[DrLeftover]

Subhan'Allah.
He really needs to read a book or two.

Unfortunately.

Many of the 'students' he was speaking to will take his word as, pardon the expression, "Gospel", and never consider another point of view.

And, as he was speaking as a Teacher, not doing so might well be considered Anti-Islamic by the Mutaween, and we all know where that ends up.

 

[beowulf]

 

[+paradox]

good one @beowulf!

 

[identityissues8]

Subhan'Allah.
He really needs to read a book or two.

Unfortunately.

Many of the 'students' he was speaking to will take his word as, pardon the expression, "Gospel", and never consider another point of view.

And, as he was speaking as a Teacher, not doing so might well be considered Anti-Islamic by the Mutaween, and we all know where that ends up.

Saudi ain't exactly a beacon for Islam, believe me.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

It just has the most sacred place in Islam the Ka'ba in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. What better place to make millions into radical terrorists.

 

[identityissues8]

It just has the most sacred place in Islam the Ka'ba in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. What better place to make millions into radical terrorists.

You are a serious bigot, aren't you?
Just because it has our holiest site, does not mean the culture of the place is that of Islam.

Muslims are stringent. We value authenticity and truth (and Science.) We don't excuse nor tolerate falsehood creeping into our faith, or among our brothers/sisters. We're not like Christians, in that regard.

Also, get off the terrorist band-wagon, it's not as common as you seem to think.
Of the 1.6 Billion of us, there's not even a million you could call terrorists.
There's a couple million terrorists/terror supporters in the USA/Israel however.

 

[DrLeftover]

Excuse me Identity.

If your brothers in the faith "value authenticity and truth (and Science.)"

How do you explain how the nutjob in the video still has a job?

 

[identityissues8]

Excuse me Identity.

If your brothers in the faith "value authenticity and truth (and Science.)"

How do you explain how the nutjob in the video still has a job?

Maybe I could have worded it as 'Islam', rather than 'Muslims'.
We are supposed to value these things, in practice, many don't.

Muslims = worst representatives of Islam.
As any group are, of any ideology.

Also, Islam is not hierarchical. This man is not hired by the Vatican, as per the Catholics would be for instance. He was hired by an independant, possibly equally as ignorant group.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

It just has the most sacred place in Islam the Ka'ba in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. What better place to make millions into radical terrorists.

You are a serious bigot, aren't you?
Just because it has our holiest site, does not mean the culture of the place is that of Islam.


You have to go to Saudi Arabia to visit Islams holiest place. Saudi Arabia is the epicenter of funded terrorism. That means they pervert what you believe in the mosques and create the people who caused 911. If that is being a bigot then I am the biggest one on the planet and none can be bigger then me!!!!!!!


Muslims are stringent. We value authenticity and truth (and Science.) We don't excuse nor tolerate falsehood creeping into our faith, or among our brothers/sisters. We're not like Christians, in that regard.


I am sure you do, but your faith right now has some serious denial issues. And it needs to wake up before a another world war is created because of that denial.


Also, get off the terrorist band-wagon, it's not as common as you seem to think.
Of the 1.6 Billion of us, there's not even a million you could call terrorists.
There's a couple million terrorists/terror supporters in the USA/Israel however.

There is a estimated 300 million people either radicalized to go forth and do terrorism or support it and fund it. And as much as terrorism is a huge issue it is not the entire issue. Almost the entire middle east is treating women like pet dogs!!!!!!! Where are the Muslims now enjoying the countries who took them in away from the middle east protesting to change the ways of such a culture in that region? Please tell me!

 

[identityissues8]

You have to go to Saudi Arabia to visit Islams holiest place. Saudi Arabia is the epicenter of funded terrorism. That means they pervert what you believe in the mosques and create the people who caused 911. If that is being a bigot then I am the biggest one on the planet and none can be bigger then me!!!!!!!

You're not the biggest bigot. But you're up there.

Sure. Saudi are allies with the USA, and friends of Israel.
They are terrorists.

Just because our holiest site, and history is within their borders, does not mean we have to support their deviant regime.

There is a estimated 300 million people either radicalized to go forth and do terrorism or support it and fund it. And as much as terrorism is a huge issue it is not the entire issue. Almost the entire middle east is treating women like pet dogs!!!!!!! Where are the Muslims now enjoying the countries who took them in away from the middle east protesting to change the ways of such a culture in that region? Please tell me!

It's easy to cry sexism when you know nothing about Islam, though yes, some Muslims are guilty as hell - you cannot hold a 1400 women right's movement, the world's first feminist movement (Islam, as was revealed in it's purity to Prophet Muhammad (saws).) accountable for that. You hold people.
The same women's issues exist and are rampant in the West. Again, it's an indiscriminately human problem. If you don't accept that, you're denying domestic violence globally.

300 million? Sure. You realise the world would be screwed if that were true.
Stop reading TheReligionOfPeace.com, please.

Where are the Muslims speaking up? Um, every major city in the Western world, perhaps?
We just don't get the same reporting power.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

You have to go to Saudi Arabia to visit Islams holiest place. Saudi Arabia is the epicenter of funded terrorism. That means they pervert what you believe in the mosques and create the people who caused 911. If that is being a bigot then I am the biggest one on the planet and none can be bigger then me!!!!!!!

You're not the biggest bigot. But you're up there.


Well I will try harder.

Sure. Saudi are allies with the USA, and friends of Israel.
They are terrorists.

They are allies of corrupt American politicians not millions of Americans who know better.

Just because our holiest site, and history is within their borders, does not mean we have to support their deviant regime.


Of you don't. And I am sure many don't. But sadly to many do fall for the propaganda.

There is a estimated 300 million people either radicalized to go forth and do terrorism or support it and fund it. And as much as terrorism is a huge issue it is not the entire issue. Almost the entire middle east is treating women like pet dogs!!!!!!! Where are the Muslims now enjoying the countries who took them in away from the middle east protesting to change the ways of such a culture in that region? Please tell me!

It's easy to cry sexism when you know nothing about Islam, though yes, some Muslims are guilty as hell - you cannot hold a 1400 women right's movement, the world's first feminist movement (Islam, as was revealed in it's purity to Prophet Muhammad (saws).) accountable for that. You hold people.
The same women's issues exist and are rampant in the West. Again, it's an indiscriminately human problem. If you don't accept that, you're denying domestic violence globally.


I know enough. And even if I knew nothing treating millions of women like property and not even a attempt to give them equal rights you don't need to know anything about the religion. And I am not even talking about a movement in the middle east I am talking about any hint of a movement in the countries outside of the middle east. The issues in the west are not even remotely close. Women can drive on there own. Honor killings are not the norm. Genital mutilations are non existent here. Women can freely choose what they want to wear without fear of harm. Women can vote. Women can be leaders in business and government. And the list goes on and on. And that is a huge difference between domestic violence and a government allowing and enforcing such actions on women.


300 million? Sure. You realise the world would be screwed if that were true.
Stop reading TheReligionOfPeace.com, please.

They do not all have to be the violent ones taking up arms to keep a movement going forward. Its the ones who quietly support such actions that allow this global violence to continue. But let me show the stats once again just how wide spread this is.

Where are the Muslims speaking up? Um, every major city in the Western world, perhaps?
We just don't get the same reporting power.

WHO? Where are the protests to stop the bombings and give women in that region equal rights? I can think of one guy who does all of the above. But no others that do both.

M. ZUHDI JASSER, M.D

M. Zuhdi Jasser, M.D. is the Founder and President of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy (AIFD).  A devout Muslim, Dr. Jasser founded AIFD in the wake of the 9/11 attacks on the United States as an effort to provide an American Muslim voice advocating for the preservation of the founding principles of the United States Constitution, liberty and freedom, through the separation of mosque and state.  Dr. Jasser is a first generation American Muslim whose parents fled the oppressive Baath regime of Syria in the mid-1960’s for American freedom.  He is leading the fight to shake the hold that the Muslim Brotherhood and their network of American Islamist organizations and mosques seek to exert on organized Islam in America.

Dr. Jasser earned his medical degree on a U.S. Navy scholarship at the Medical College of Wisconsin in 1992. He served 11 years as a medical officer in the U. S. Navy.  His tours of duty included Medical Department Head aboard the U.S.S. El Paso which deployed to Somalia during Operation Restore Hope; Chief Resident at Bethesda Naval Hospital; and Staff Internist for the Office of the Attending Physician to the U. S. Congress.  He is a recipient of the Meritorious Service Medal. Dr. Jasser is a respected physician currently in private practice in Phoenix, Arizona specializing in internal medicine and nuclear cardiology.  He is a Past-President of the Arizona Medical Association.

AIFD seeks to counter political Islam the ideology that fuels radical Islamists. AIFD’s current passions include the Muslim Liberty Project (MLP) and involvement in the newly formed American Islamic Leadership Coalition (AILC). The Muslim Liberty Project seeks to instill the ideas of liberty into young Muslim adults in order to inoculate them against the viral threat of political Islam. The project brought together its first class of Muslim Youth in March 2011 with tremendous success. AILC is a broad based coalition of diverse Muslim organizations that provide a stark alternative to the domestic and global network of Islamist organizations.