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Scotland Rejects Independence in Record-Breaking Referendum

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News from: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/scotland-independence-vote/scotland-rejects-independence-record-breaking-referendum-n206876

The United Kingdom remained intact Friday after 55.3 percent of Scottish voters rejected independence in a record-breaking national referendum.

Scotland's largest city, Glasgow, voted in favor of independence — itself a significant milestone in British history — but that was not enough to secure an overall victory for the 'Yes' campaign.

Despite a sudden and historic surge in support for separation, the final defeat came at 6:10 a.m. local time (1:10 a.m. ET) when Fife declared its results, pushing the 'No' side over the 50 percent threshold needed for victory. More than 84 percent of registered voters turned out.

"We've taken on the argument and we've won. The silent have spoken," Alistair Darling, leader of the Better Together campaign against independence, said in a victory speech. Darling acknowledged the campaign created deep political divisions among Scots and vowed to work hard to address cries for change among backers of separation.

The final tally had 'No' with 2,001,926 votes (55.3 percent) while 'Yes' garnered 1,616,989 votes (44.7 percent).

Conceding defeat, Scotland's pro-independence leader and First Minister Alex Salmond thanked the voters who backed independence, saying they had changed the face of British politics forever.

"It is important to say that our referendum was an agreed and consented process and Scotland has by a majority decided not at this stage to become an independent country," he said. "I accept that verdict of the people and I call on all of Scotland to follow suit in accepting the democratic verdict of the people of Scotland."

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Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond concedes defeat early Friday.


He also praised the record-breaking turnout, adding: "This has been a triumph for the democratic process."

Many Scots settled in to stay up all night in homes and bars to watch the results in what came close to being the U.K.'s biggest constitutional shakeup since 1707. Others across Britain had also been nervously awaiting the outcome, including Prime Minister David Cameron who earlier this week made an emotional plea to Scots to remain in the United Kingdom.

Cameron responded to the vote by reiterating that he'd offer a promised package of extra powers for Scotland's devolved government - as well as more localized government for England and Wales.

Speaking early Friday, Cameron said the "debate has been settled for a generation."

He added: "The Scottish people have spoken and it's a clear result. They have kept our country of four nations [England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland] together and like millions of other people I'm delighted. Now it's time for our United Kingdom to come together and to move forward."

Cameron said the referendum had "stirred strong passions" and would be remembered as a "powerful demonstration of the strength and vitality of our ancient democracy."

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Pro-independence supporters show their disappointment in Edinburgh, Scotland, early Friday.


Turnout was at record levels across Scotland - as high as 91 per cent in East Dunbartonshire, according to officials at the referendum result declaration center in Ingliston, on the outskirts of Edinburgh. In the far northwestern peninsula community of Knoydart, 100 percent of the 98 registered voters went to the polls, according to reports.

Edinburgh, Scotland's capital city, and Stirling, in the heart of Scotland, voted 'No' - but West Dunbartonshire, North Lanarkshire and the city of Dundee voted Yes.

The question on the ballot paper was: "Should Scotland be an independent country?"

Thoughts?
 
There's going to be a lot more devolution in the U.K., for starters, Freddy, along with I suspect more deference to Scottish views w/in the country at large.
 
Phossix said:
Heartbroken, but the public have spoken.

I know I've already mentioned this - or something to that effect in my earlier post, Phossix - but what do you think is going to happen now that the vote's been taken?:|
 
DrLeftover said:
Most likely....

The taxes in the entire UK will probably go up.

Given the general rut that austerity's taken the UK in recent memory, that might not be a bad thing, Doc.
 
Webster said:
DrLeftover said:
Most likely....

The taxes in the entire UK will probably go up.

Given the general rut that austerity's taken the UK in recent memory, that might not be a bad thing, Doc.

How much of your paycheck is claimed by the politicians who then keep some and then give what's left to people who don't/won't/can't work?
 
Westminster now continues to have control over Scotland, which is a shame. David Cameron promised that Scotland receive enhanced powers if we were to vote no.
About... what, 12 hours later? This happened.

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There is also this article here.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/cameron-this-is-the-settled-will-of-scotsbut-well-devolve-more-powers-around-uk.1411108470

Frankly, I'm not too pleased.
 
Don't get me wrong, I don't trust the guy, like most politicians.
The day they keep a promise is the day pigs fly.
 
so, is it really a country then?
 
+Justice said:
so, is it really a country then?

It is a country. But it's still the part of the United Kingdom.

Nebulous said:
Phossix said:
Scotland is now the only country to refuse its independence, apparently.
Far from proud of that.

Can you try again later?

I doubt Westminster would let us even try. Through empty promises that the 45% of Yes voters had already predicted, it seems as if they're just gonna tighten the grip on us now, since the other 55% have willingly given up their country. Cameron promised more power, and already, he broke the promise. He could have at least had the courtesy to do it at a later date, but nope.

THe sad thing is, the other day, I was called a traitor to my country because I had a 'Yes' badge in my name after the referendum.

Here are a few disgusting celebrations that have been occuring in the 'UK'.

https://vine.co/v/OWPzrhni0Aj

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZkTCwls5PE

Basically, this scene from Trainspotting sums it up right now.
 
Phossix said:
+Justice said:
so, is it really a country then?

It is a country. But it's still the part of the United Kingdom.

Nebulous said:
Phossix said:
Scotland is now the only country to refuse its independence, apparently.
Far from proud of that.

Can you try again later?

I doubt Westminster would let us even try.

So... one shot a independence, and that's it forever until the end of time?
 

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