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should vaccinations be mandatory for children?

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should vaccinations be mandatory for children?

why or why not?
 
you can't mandate common sense, or legislate against stupidity (unfortunately)

I worked for a company once where I was hired specifically for the purposes to improve the company's relationships with it's customers which were at rock bottom with loads of complaints and issues.

Over eight years later, when customer service survey results were at their highest ever and we had amazing relationships with our customers in every region, my entire department was laid off including myself. Why? The company had great customer relationships... what did they need us for??

What they forgot is why they now had great relationships and the effort and work that goes into it, but is hard to measure so easy to say we no longer need it.

The reason I say this is that it is the same with vaccinations. Polio, measles, rubella and other illnesses use to be the leading causes of death prior to vaccines, but because of it's success, no one any longer sees the risks, they only focus on the 'risks' of the vaccine itself.

So like my company laying everyone off, people forget what it was like in the past and choose to bring back the days where the illnesses become the risk because they no longer feel that the vaccine is needed, that is until their child gets one of these illnesses and is either disabled or dies, but by then of course it is too late.

The risk however of making things like this mandatory comes down to where does it stop?
Many vaccines are rushed to market these days and with some of them like the SARS was so rushed the side effects are now questionable, so no, I would not want all vaccines to be mandatory.
 
Unless the child has some sort of allergy then yes by all means it should be mandatory. Not only does it put your child's health at risk but it also makes it possible for diseases which should be long dead to come back again.
 
They should be mandatory unless the child is too young and their immune system can't handle the vaccination or they are sick and again the immune system cannot handle it. Not only would they be protecting themselves, but the people who can't be vaccinated for health reasons.
 
Of course not!
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Dee said:
They should be mandatory unless the child is too young and their immune system can't handle the vaccination or they are sick and again the immune system cannot handle it.  Not only would they be protecting themselves, but the people who can't be vaccinated for health reasons.
Well, if some people cannot be vaccinated (young, old, weak or sick) then it is by definition not mandatory!
Also, if your kids are vaccinated then why worry about the others? It is not like your kids will get sick since they are vaccinated...
 
wirelessguru1 said:
Also, if your kids are vaccinated then why worry about the others? It is not like your kids will get sick since they are vaccinated...
There's this new thing called empathy.
 
fantanoice said:
wirelessguru1 said:
Also, if your kids are vaccinated then why worry about the others? It is not like your kids will get sick since they are vaccinated...
There's this new thing called empathy.

I know right. :huh:
 
Unless there are special circumstances (i.e. the child's immune system is too weak for whatever reason) then yes. There is absolutely no reason the there to be measles outbreaks in the U.S. in 2015.
 
The Supreme King said:
Unless there are special circumstances (i.e. the child's immune system is too weak for whatever reason) then yes. There is absolutely no reason the there to be measles outbreaks in the U.S. in 2015.

or, the real question is how and why the measles outbreak even happened in the first place...

and why and how it came back after all of these years...

i smell fish...
 
Although people have a right to have or not to have their children vaccinated.

I think they should and I feel strongly about that, so they don't go out and make some one else's kids sick or get really sick them selves. But that's just my humble opinion.
 
Richard said:
Although people have a right to have or not to have their children vaccinated.

I think they should and I feel strongly about that, so they don't go out and make some one else's kids sick or get really sick them selves. But that's just my humble opinion.

nazi germany made their school children take "shots" too...
 
+Justice said:
The Supreme King said:
Unless there are special circumstances (i.e. the child's immune system is too weak for whatever reason) then yes. There is absolutely no reason the there to be measles outbreaks in the U.S. in 2015.


or, the real question is how and why the measles outbreak even happened in the first place...

and why and how it came back after all of these years...

i smell fish...

Measels came back (in the US) because people stopped giving their kids vaccines. 
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+Justice said:
Richard said:
Although people have a right to have or not to have their children vaccinated.

I think they should and I feel strongly about that, so they don't go out and make some one else's kids sick or get really sick them selves. But that's just my humble opinion.


nazi germany made their school children take "shots" too...

Nazi Germany's citizens also ate bread and drank water. Spooky, I know.
 
The Supreme King said:
+Justice said:
The Supreme King said:
Unless there are special circumstances (i.e. the child's immune system is too weak for whatever reason) then yes. There is absolutely no reason the there to be measles outbreaks in the U.S. in 2015.


or, the real question is how and why the measles outbreak even happened in the first place...

and why and how it came back after all of these years...

i smell fish...

Measels came back (in the US) because people stopped giving their kids vaccines. 
how can you be so sure? don't the deep dark laboratories of the cia and rogue/secret government agencies/groups have such things in stock? or is it too impossible to have the u.s. government release things upon the public? 


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+Justice said:
Richard said:
Although people have a right to have or not to have their children vaccinated.

I think they should and I feel strongly about that, so they don't go out and make some one else's kids sick or get really sick them selves. But that's just my humble opinion.


nazi germany made their school children take "shots" too...

Nazi Germany's citizens also ate bread and drank water. Spooky, I know.
my point, this type of mandatory safety precaution tactic to keep people safe and healthy can and most likely be used in a negative manner and lives can be lost if too much power gets into the hands of the government and the elite... what? you don't think it never happened before or can't be done? killing with deadly vaccines? with deadly medicine, does and will happen in the future as well... the real question is, if 'we the people' keep giving up rights and freedoms, then what's there left for the people? and who will make sure that these vaccinations won't be tainted on purpose or switched with something else upon the public and masses?
 
#assassin said:
why would the us govt use vaccines to kill people

why does the us government kill anyone?
 
+Justice said:
how can you be so sure? don't the deep dark laboratories of the cia and rogue/secret government agencies/groups have such things in stock? or is it too impossible to have the u.s. government release things upon the public?
They most certainly do have it, just like they have vials of Smallpox. But is there even a plausible reason why they would release something like Measles? It is far far far far more likely that in California where people saw a debunked ex-doctor's paper from 15 years ago claiming vaccines give children autism and stopped giving their children the vaccine and allowed an outbreak of measles brought over from another country where they don't have the US's medical field. The fact of the matter is that it was essentially eradicated in the United States. If the government wanted to do shady stuff they could have done it with any number of other vaccines.

+Justice said:
my point, this type of mandatory safety precaution tactic to keep people safe and healthy can and most likely be used in a negative manner and lives can be lost if too much power gets into the hands of the government and the elite... what? you don't think it never happened before or can't be done? killing with deadly vaccines? with deadly medicine, does and will happen in the future as well... the real question is, if 'we the people' keep giving up rights and freedoms, then what's there left for the people? and who will make sure that these vaccinations won't be tainted on purpose or switched with something else upon the public and masses?
Yes, this type of stuff has and is still happening around the world. There have been cases like in Israel where they have given immigrants contraceptive shots without their consent. But there is no reason to do that with something as trivial as a measles vaccine on random sections of the population. And I know the last question you ask is a fun slippery slope, but I'm going to have to refrain from riding it.
 
evil men will do anything and everything, including killing... as history already proves that time after time...

to the good people that want to keep diseases away and gone, it wont be tainted and manipulated as if an evil entity could use it as a tool and/or weapon...

it's sort of like the gun issues...

can't take people's guns because if the people wasn't armed then the people don't win or at least wont have a chance of winning against an oppressor, but some think and been thinking that the usa is already oppressed and been an tyrannical empire while pretending to be just and free with the people...
 
The Supreme King said:
+Justice said:
The Supreme King said:
Unless there are special circumstances (i.e. the child's immune system is too weak for whatever reason) then yes. There is absolutely no reason the there to be measles outbreaks in the U.S. in 2015.


or, the real question is how and why the measles outbreak even happened in the first place...

and why and how it came back after all of these years...

i smell fish...

Measels came back (in the US) because people stopped giving their kids vaccines. 

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+Justice said:
Richard said:
Although people have a right to have or not to have their children vaccinated.

I think they should and I feel strongly about that, so they don't go out and make some one else's kids sick or get really sick them selves. But that's just my humble opinion.


nazi germany made their school children take "shots" too...

Nazi Germany's citizens also ate bread and drank water. Spooky, I know.

Measles came back because we ignore our borders and allow illegals to cross with diseases.
 

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