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transgenderism

is transgenderism natural or an abomination?

  • natural

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • sick degeneracy

    Votes: 2 50.0%

  • Total voters
    4
TommyTooter said:
fortunately, the hippocratic oath reared its ugly head to pediatricians. if doing nothing is potentially more harmful than the proposed treatment, they have to do something and so they are now advising parents of trans kids to allow them to express themselves naturally. there is nothing irreversible that they do until the children are in their teens and a fair number of them grow out of it and go on as cis gender people. for the ones who don't, the therapy meant the difference between a happy childhood and one frought with suicidal ideations.

I think this is the most important piece of that response, and here's why:

Support for transgender individuals and ANYONE going through something that is not socially accepted is severely emotionally, mentally, and physically traumatizing. Many people are so blinded by their own ignorance that they forget they're dealing with human beings just like themselves. It's no different than when slavery was rampant, simply because of their genetics. However, it was easier to see because their skin color is different as opposed to what's going on in the brain with a transgender individual.

This isn't just biology 101. And there are MANY individuals who are physically intersex, which breaks the idea that only male and female sexes exist. Many living organisms are capable of spontaneously changing sexes, but we don't say they're male or female just because they came out with what we consider a penis, or vice versa. We know it exists. We know it has happened and continues to happen, yet we, as human beings, continue to deny it for our own species.

If we continue to deny it and deny folks who are intersexed or who are genetically and cognitively hard-wired in a different way, if we don't continue to try to discover the answers for why it exists and what we can do to accept it, then we're doomed to keep repeating our own ignorance for the rest of humanity.
 
great strides have been made on many fronts, but there is still much to do. there is also a terrific amount of infighting across the gender spectrum, with many transsexuals getting or having gotten gender reassignment surgery getting all trannier than thou on non-operative transgender people, particularly crossdressers and sex workers all pumped up with silicone, and dictating political correctness to the rest of us who won't be getting our genitals modified.

it appears that there are more and more people being born transgender or becoming transgender due to mutations caused by pharmaceuticals and food additives. i believe i mentioned that my condition is likely to be due to exposure to DES in utero and not a recessive sport known to occur in about 0.1 % of live births.

what is needed is for cis gender people to be educated to the facts of transgenderism and learn what is appropriate and inappropriate to say to or about a transgender person. one of the worst things you can do is insist that they are not men or women because of their genitals being wrong for their 'choice' of gender. as i stated, it is not a choice. female to male people want to be called 'ma'am' and be referred to as 'she' or 'her' and the opposite for female to male.

it's always best to not be asking a lot of questions and it really shouldn't come up beyond a simple statement of fact and acceptance.
 
TommyTooter said:
some men are born with vaginas and some women are born with penises. is this something that is natural and should be accepted and respected or an abomination that needs to be eliminated from the planet? please give your reasoning in the comment box.

i think all humans should be respected and not reject... doesn't matter what color of the skin or gender...

as far as if it's natural or not, maybe or maybe not...

it could be just a birth deformation like twins, but do we demonize twins?
 
Khalessi said:
Dee said:
I'm not going to claim to know what it's like as I consider myself a female having been born in a body I'm comfortable with, but there have been studies that suggest while people are born with a certain genitalia and assigned a sex at birth due to social and gender norms, that there is simply more there that meets the eye. There are theories about genetics and brain structure playing a role, and I absolutely believe there is much more that we can learn about ourselves as a human species. We've barely tapped into uncovering explanations even for things we know happen but simply don't know why, so what's different about this?

To say that something isn't real because someone is born with genitalia considered "male/female" by the majority of society is ignorant. Take for example individuals who are intersex. How would they be "categorized"? In my opinion, that a person born with a specific set of genitalia or chromosomal genotype other than XX-female and XY-male nullifies the typical argument that certain genitalia makes it black and white. And in that case the argument that transgenderism is "sick" or "unnatural" is a misguided opinion on the topic.

Who you are is not determined by what's between your legs, which is why I voted for it being a natural thing. Perhaps it doesn't seem natural because we as a society are ignorant to it, and therefore unable to truly understand something or someone different from us can exist and be just as normal.

The most intelligent, and common sense post/reply in this entire thread.

Well expressed Dee. ;)

i agree 100%...
 
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