Uninformed GOP Voters

[Temerit]

You guys have such great debating skills.

 

[DrLeftover]

I've raised debatable points in the past which you have dismissed out of hand based only on the fact that you disagreed.



Then you have the balls to make such statements as those recently cited.



You have great moxie my friend. I hope it serves you well.



You have yet to prove that many of Mr. O's claims, especially those in his most recent campaign ad are not either bold faced lies or subjective truths spun to serve his re-election. Which brings him in under the overall heading of liar.



Which, I will claim, as a politician, he is going in.

 

[Temerit]

Hypocrite and a thief is a different story. And I've never dismissed anything you've said.



Any president isn't able to do everything he wanted to during the campaign. Many things Obama has pushed extremely hard for (like cap-and-trade), which congress has essentially rejected because of their ties to the oil industry.



Your attacking Obama on these points is entirely pointless because almost all of his shortcomings are ubiquitous among politicians and thus almost irrelevant.



Why do you question my statement that I mildly support Obama? Obama is a center-right politician and I'm a hardcore liberal. I'm hoping for a far more liberal president in 2016.

 

[Evil Eye]

And with this, I am done with you.

Better be.

No personal attacks, please.

You're just undermining your own arguments by calling him a child. You can't convince everyone. Would be fewer wars if you could.

 

[DrLeftover]

T.



If Mr. Obama is center-right, and he is actually more liberal than Bill Clinton was at the same point in their administrations (coming up on second term), then what national level politician is at least leaning Left?

 

[Temerit]

Bernie Sanders.



Since 1975 house Republicans have moved six times as far to the right on the political spectrum as house democrats have moved left (both parties have become more extreme).



Since 1975 senate Republicans have moved twice as far to the right on the political spectrum as senate Democrats have moved to the left.



Obama and Clinton are not at all liberals in practice. Obama used to be very liberal, but not at all as president.

 

[DrLeftover]

Who happens to admit that he his a Socialist.



wow

 

[Temerit]

You said to give you a left leaning politician and I did.

 

[DrLeftover]

He's a bit beyond left leaning.

 

[Temerit]

Back on the Palin topic.



She said that you could see Russia from Alaska and that this gave her foreign policy credentials.



Equally absurd statement, and that is one I recalled.

 

[Temerit]

Also for left leaning politicians: Ron Wyden and Patty Murray

 

[DrLeftover]

You're right T, most voters have no better a grasp on reality than the Vice President.

Vice President Nebulous Biden defended President Barack Obama’s health care reform law Tuesday, specifically praising the provision that requires companies to cover individuals with pre-existing conditions, criticizing “Senator Romney” for opposing this part of the law.

“The president and I think that, it’s already the law, that anybody, any quote child, dependent, who has a pre-existing condition should automatically be covered by their parents’ insurance policy and we believe that if every insurance company has to do it, it’s no disadvantage to one insurance company verses the other,” said Biden at an event on college affordability in Norfolk, Va.

“Well, our friends, Senator Santorum and Senator Romney and others, they don’t think the government should dictate that.”

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/03/b...anies-covering-pre-existing-conditions-audio/

 

[Temerit]

Biden is referring to the fact that Romney has pledged to repeal obamacare which would have the very effects that Biden is describing.



I'm not sure where he has lost touch with reality? Seems pretty spot on!

 

[DrLeftover]

Yes, senator.





In other news: Hyperbole is not a lost art after all:

Obama on the Paul Ryan budget: We wouldn't have the capacity to enforce the laws that protect the air we breathe, the water we drink, or the food that we eat. Cuts to the FAA would likely result in more flight cancellations, delays and the complete elimination of air traffic control services in parts of the country. Over time, our weather forecasts would become less accurate because we wouldn't be able to afford to launch new satellites and that means governors and mayors would have to wait longer to order evacuations in the event of a hurricane. That's just a partial sampling of the consequences of this budget.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ld_make_weather_prediction_less_accurate.html

 

[Temerit]

That actually isn't much of a hyperbole at all.



Paul Ryan's budget is a pure fantasy.

 

[DrLeftover]

Fascinating T.



That says an awful lot about your faith in Our Beautiful President.

 

[Temerit]

Paul Ryan's budget is fantasy.



It's not even a real proposal.

 

[DrLeftover]

So do you agree with Mister Obama's latest statement as well?

I believe that it is part of our solemn responsibility to future generations that we look after this planet; that we make sure our air is clean and our water is clean; that we’re not poisoning our kids, Obama said at a campaign fundraiser tonight. That credo came as he explained that the contrast between visions in this election could not be more stark, because I believe that America is stronger when we’re looking for one another.

http://campaign2012.washingtonexami...tial/obama-gop-vision-poisons-our-kids/467561

 

[Corleone]

In my opinion, I view Obama as a politician, not a president. I'm from the south, as I live in Alabama, and I must say I watch national news and read national news articles all the time. I believe Obama is more concerned about being re-elected and holding office, and he wants to please everyone. Life lesson: It's impossible to please everyone. Obama is the food stamp president. According to him, everyone should be able to get food stamps, healthcare, and a payback, even if they sit at home and do nothing all day. Now, I am all for the food stamp program, as I believe that there are people out there who are trying their best and simply can't make ends meet; however, I believe that's true for less than half the people on food stamps. I believe society looks at food stamps as a way of saying, I don't need a job for food, I'll just get food stamps. I don't need healthcare, Obama will provide me with healthcare. I don't need a job, I'm claim unemployment from the government.



In the United States, it is easier to get on the food stamp program than it is for a veteran to get help with PDSD.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_CR5-Er7ts[/media]

 

[DrLeftover]

I'm sorry, but the idea of a Statesman as President went out shortly after FDR assumed room temperature while on vacation with Ms Mercer.



Reagan invented the continuing campaign during his first term. And, essentially, every president since has done the same thing.



Only with George HW Bush, it fell flat on its face with his read my lips statement.



Yes. Mr. Obama is a Politician. So are Messrs. Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich. And 'Newt' is perhaps the best bad example of the breed in the current national conversation.



It is hard to say exactly how one should file Dr. Paul, but he has at least some Politician blood in him, that's for sure.