Veterans Day is upon us .. xox

[Cinnamon]

FIRST and FOREMOST, I want to thank ALL who have served and are serving. There's no way the words THANK YOU can cover my appreciation for your service. Freedom is not free is not a cliche, it's a fact.



There are so many poems and readings about our brave and incredible men and women who wear the uniform. Please feel free to post them here.



And please join me in thanking them.



Also, don't be shy - if you are serving or have served, stand up and be counted so we can thank you! In abundance!



XOXO

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

Thank you veterans!



Thank you govt for giving me a day off.

 

[Cinnamon]

Thank you veterans!



Thank you govt for giving me a day off.

Yes. A day off for remembering ... xox







We Stood For Freedom

©2002 Roger J. Robicheau





We stood for freedom just like you

And loved the flag you cherish too



Our uniforms felt great to wear

You know the feel, and how you care



In step we marched, the cadence way

The same is true with you today



Oh how we tried to do our best

As you do now, from test to test



How young we were and proud to be

Defenders of true liberty



So many thoughts bind soldiers well

The facts may change, not how we jell



Each soldier past, and you now here

Do share what will not disappear



One thought now comes, straight from my heart

For soldiers home, who’ve done their part



I’m honored to have served with you

May Godly peace, help get you through



And now I’ll end with a request

Do ponder this, while home at rest



America, respect our day

Each veteran, helped freedom stay



©2002 Roger J. Robicheau

Former SP5 US Army



~~~



xox

 

[Evil Eye]

Veterans of which war exactly?

 

[Cranos]

I don't think it really matters. Very fascinating to see how it isn't just another day off for Americans though.

 

[Cinnamon]

Veterans of which war exactly?

Actually, all of them. It began at the ending of WWI and throughout history became a day that we pay tribute to all who have served. Coming from a military family myself, I think it's a very important holiday. Heck, I think every day should be Veterans Day because without them, we wouldn't be here.

 

[Cinnamon]

I don't think it really matters. Very fascinating to see how it isn't just another day off for Americans though.

It does matter to a great number of people in so many different ways.

But, I'm sure there are those who simply consider it a day off. Some feel the same about Christmas. ahh well ... different strokes.

 

[Sinon]

Yeah, respect to all the veterans from WW1/2...but I include the veterans of the countries that fought both with and against the US in that. No war is just, there is no justification or adequate reasoning to go to war and take the lives of others doing the same thing. Both sides think they're doing the right thing, ands both are equally as barbaric. I despise war and I hate soldiers. The excuse without them we wouldn't be here is bull. Can you see alternate futures? I doubt it, so it's not a valid pass-off.



Don't forget, it isn't just YOUR country who lost men and women to war. Never forget that, if you truly care for humanity. Doing any less is simply a display of ignorance and downright deplorable action.

 

[Cranos]

It does matter to a great number of people in so many different ways.

But, I'm sure there are those who simply consider it a day off. Some feel the same about Christmas. ahh well ... different strokes.

By it doesn't matter I meant that I don't think it matters of which war the veterans are. It's interesting though, if nov 11 was veterans day here, I doubt even a fraction of the people would know why we have a day off.

 

[Cinnamon]

Yeah, respect to all the veterans from WW1/2...but I include the veterans of the countries that fought both with and against the US in that. No war is just, there is no justification or adequate reasoning to go to war and take the lives of others doing the same thing. Both sides think they're doing the right thing, ands both are equally as barbaric. I despise war and I hate soldiers. The excuse without them we wouldn't be here is bull. Can you see alternate futures? I doubt it, so it's not a valid pass-off.



Don't forget, it isn't just YOUR country who lost men and women to war. Never forget that, if you truly care for humanity. Doing any less is simply a display of ignorance and downright deplorable action.

Hi Shiro. I'm not sure where you're from but the holiday is called Remembrance Day in Canada and Remembrance Sunday (on the Sunday nearest to November 11) in Britain.



I also would ask you not to trash the holiday and veterans on this particular thread. Thanks for understanding.

 

[Cinnamon]

By it doesn't matter I meant that I don't think it matters of which war the veterans are. It's interesting though, if nov 11 was veterans day here, I doubt even a fraction of the people would know why we have a day off.

Thanks, Cranos. I didn't see that you were replying to the post above yours - I thought it was a separate post. I'm also not sure where you're from. Wherever it is, I'm sure you've lost some in battle, yes?

 

[Sinon]

*raises eyebrow* Trash it? I merely pointed out that there are others who lost their lives in the same war who are forgotten because they were just the enemy, despite them being soldiers, just like the ones you're praising. Being a soldier is a job, just like being an accountant or a sales clerk. And like I said, if you can actually read it, is respect to all the veterans, as in every single person living or dead who fought in those wars. I am aware of the date it falls upon, I just feel it slightly imprudent to not include all of the valiant soldiers who partook in those battles.

 

[Cranos]

Thanks, Cranos. I didn't see that you were replying to the post above yours - I thought it was a separate post. I'm also not sure where you're from. Wherever it is, I'm sure you've lost some in battle, yes?

I'm from Belgium and I suppose we have. No major losses since WWII though. November 11 is for us literary translated cease fire day which sounds a lot better in Dutch of course XD. But anyway, it's just about the end of WWI and no one really cares. I didn't even remember what nov 11 was about before I saw this thread.



It's part of our culture though. We aren't really proud of our army or of our country in general.

 

[Cinnamon]

*raises eyebrow* Trash it? I merely pointed out that there are others who lost their lives in the same war who are forgotten because they were just the enemy, despite them being soldiers, just like the ones you're praising. Being a soldier is a job, just like being an accountant or a sales clerk. And like I said, if you can actually read it, is respect to all the veterans, as in every single person living or dead who fought in those wars. I am aware of the date it falls upon, I just feel it slightly imprudent to not include all of the valiant soldiers who partook in those battles.

I'm not sure how other countries pay tribute to those who have gone to battle for them, but I can assure you that many of ours who wear the uniform don't consider it simply a job. I can promise you that. xox



Have a good night.

 

[Sinon]

Considering the original date would be the same, I'd guess it's still mightily similar. Not to mention, how those who wear the uniform consider it isn't the real application, as the military is considered a career, an employment. Socially known as a job.

 

[Cinnamon]

I'm from Belgium and I suppose we have. No major losses since WWII though. November 11 is for us literary translated cease fire day which sounds a lot better in Dutch of course XD. But anyway, it's just about the end of WWI and no one really cares. I didn't even remember what nov 11 was about before I saw this thread.



It's part of our culture though. We aren't really proud of our army or of our country in general.

This is the cool part of posting on a board with a variety of posters from across the world. Until today, I don't recall meeting anyone from Belgium ... on any board I've posted on. You have a good night too, or morning, or whatever your time zone is.

 

[Cinnamon]

Considering the original date would be the same, I'd guess it's still mightily similar. Not to mention, how those who wear the uniform consider it isn't the real application, as the military is considered a career, an employment. Socially known as a job.

I'm not sure what you mean by consider it isn't the real application.



Again, I can assure you that many who serve don't simply consider it a job, career or employment. That's the reason re-enlistment numbers are so high. Many consider it their heart, their 'brothers in arms' and their duty to ensure freedom for the country they love and their future generations.

 

[Sinon]

First off, you're mis-reading what I wrote, causing your confusion. I hope, at least. Try reading the entire sentence, how those who wear the uniform consider it (as not just a job) isn't applicable. Legally, the military service is employment via the state. Therefore, a job. As such, what those who are under the employment consider it doesn't matter, as it is still a job legally. Whether they're overly patriotic doesn't change it being a job.



Freedom? Your army is the second-largest in troop number in the entire world, flanked by the People's Republic of China at #1, and India bringing up the rear. Due to the collaboration with the United Nations forum, there is little to no risk to your freedom unless a coalition of countries get together and decide to take combat to you. The current conflicts in the Middle East are completely invalid, and I certainly hope you don't believe those battles are in any way a valid recompense for whatever attacks were launched towards the US (In the case of 9/11, which I hasten to add, caused approximately 3000 deaths, whereas the combined death toll for innocents alone in Iraq/Afghanistan have gone into the hundreds of thousands).



I must also add that you're viewing freedom from an entirely wooden perspective if you believe the invasion and persecution of others constitutes to adequate human rights or the use of power to ensure freedom by simply taking out anyone who could pose a threat in the future.



Edit: Apologies for the numerical mix-up. The US has the 6th(?) largest force, with the larger forces including the ROK, PRK, Russia, Vietnam, and the PRC.

 

[Cinnamon]

First off, you're mis-reading what I wrote, causing your confusion. I hope, at least. Try reading the entire sentence, how those who wear the uniform consider it (as not just a job) isn't applicable. Legally, the military service is employment via the state. Therefore, a job. As such, what those who are under the employment consider it doesn't matter, as it is still a job legally. Whether they're overly patriotic doesn't change it being a job.



Freedom? Your army is the second-largest in troop number in the entire world, flanked by the People's Republic of China at #1, and India bringing up the rear. Due to the collaboration with the United Nations forum, there is little to no risk to your freedom unless a coalition of countries get together and decide to take combat to you. The current conflicts in the Middle East are completely invalid, and I certainly hope you don't believe those battles are in any way a valid recompense for whatever attacks were launched towards the US (In the case of 9/11, which I hasten to add, caused approximately 3000 deaths, whereas the combined death toll for innocents alone in Iraq/Afghanistan have gone into the hundreds of thousands).



I must also add that you're viewing freedom from an entirely wooden perspective if you believe the invasion and persecution of others constitutes to adequate human rights or the use of power to ensure freedom by simply taking out anyone who could pose a threat in the future.

Hi again. No, I didn't see isn't applicable in your previous post and, yes, that omission was the confusion. Nevertheless, again, I assure you, so many who serve don't consider it merely a job. I don't know how else to say it.



What you just wrote about would be good for another discussion. I'd be happy to reply to the topic if you wish to start it, especially your last sentence.



Peace be with you and g'night now.

 

[Cinnamon]

Heroes Die for Me



by Jamie Burns







I am the flag



I look down upon this land called America.



I have been here since this great nation was formed,



I have seen each battle fought



I have seen the heroes die for me, for my country







Thank you all those of you



Who have kept me flying in the breeze



Keeping this country united as one.



Thank you those of you who have sacrificed your lives,



Giving up all that I may still fly,



Watching over the citizens of this nation.



Thank you all those of you who have ever fought,



I am ever grateful for you.







You risked everything; you faced death each day,



Faced fear, faced many terrible things.



And because of you, my thank you's ring out,



Filling the sky, echoing from the hills



They find their way to the graveyards,



And to all of you still living,



You are a special kind of person.



To anyone who has ever served this country,



And to those serving today



Thank you.







As I watch life from atop my flagpole,



As I think of all you've done,



My feelings become too powerful for words



And all I can say is thank you.