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Well-Regulated Militia

TRUE LIBERTY said:
TommyTooter said:
fuck off, you degenerate conservatard. argue with your own words or leave me out of your fanatical, narrow minded, hate driven game.


:D

hey, if jazzy doesn't care whether you address the question, i sure am not going to lower myself to your level of ignorance, pal. please just stay out of my threads so that i'm not nauseated by your completely misguided and rigidly wrongheaded world view and i'll stay away from your nonsense everywhere else. sound fair?

you're not my kind of person. you don't argue rationally and i really don't want to be expressing anger at a stupid man like you. how about you just stop responding to my posts and i'll avoid your ignorance everywhere else? sound fair?
 
I recommend you add him to your ignore list if he bothers you as much as he seems to do for you. You can do this by clicking his profile and then click add to ignore list. This way you won't be able to read his posts and can coexist with him on this board. It's better then getting angry all the time when you read his posts. I wasn't sure if you were aware of the feature so I figure I point it out to you so you know if you don't already.

Perhaps now we should get back to the topic and not continue this pointless fighting is a good thing to do I think. We shouldn't let arguments get in the way of discussing any topic on this board with everyone else.
 
TommyTooter said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
TommyTooter said:
fuck off, you degenerate conservatard. argue with your own words or leave me out of your fanatical, narrow minded, hate driven game.


:D

hey, if jazzy doesn't care whether you address the question, i sure am not going to lower myself to your level of ignorance, pal. please just stay out of my threads so that i'm not nauseated by your completely misguided and rigidly wrongheaded world view and i'll stay away from your nonsense everywhere else. sound fair?

you're not my kind of person. you don't argue rationally and i really don't want to be expressing anger at a stupid man like you. how about you just stop responding to my posts and i'll avoid your ignorance everywhere else? sound fair?

If I see a topic I agree with or do not I am going to respond. If you choose to ignore my response thats up to you.
 
Bluezone777 said:
I recommend you add him to your ignore list if he bothers you as much as he seems to do for you. You can do this by clicking his profile and then click add to ignore list. This way you won't be able to read his posts and can coexist with him on this board. It's better then getting angry all the time when you read his posts. I wasn't sure if you were aware of the feature so I figure I point it out to you so you know if you don't already.


Indeed, me and Tommy already had this conversation but yet he continues to reply to the people who seem to bother him.
 
Nebulous said:
Bluezone777 said:
I recommend you add him to your ignore list if he bothers you as much as he seems to do for you. You can do this by clicking his profile and then click add to ignore list. This way you won't be able to read his posts and can coexist with him on this board. It's better then getting angry all the time when you read his posts. I wasn't sure if you were aware of the feature so I figure I point it out to you so you know if you don't already.


Indeed, me and Tommy already had this conversation but yet he continues to reply to the people who seem to bother him.
i don't like to completely block people. i've had my say and won't be responding to him at all in the future. there's no point in attempting to communicate with a true believer. the cognitive dissonance is too strong. please try to be aware that i am not a male and use female pronouns when referring to me in the future.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
TommyTooter said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
TommyTooter said:
fuck off, you degenerate conservatard. argue with your own words or leave me out of your fanatical, narrow minded, hate driven game.


:D

hey, if jazzy doesn't care whether you address the question, i sure am not going to lower myself to your level of ignorance, pal. please just stay out of my threads so that i'm not nauseated by your completely misguided and rigidly wrongheaded world view and i'll stay away from your nonsense everywhere else. sound fair?

you're not my kind of person. you don't argue rationally and i really don't want to be expressing anger at a stupid man like you. how about you just stop responding to my posts and i'll avoid your ignorance everywhere else? sound fair?

If I see a topic I agree with or do not I am going to respond. If you choose to ignore my response thats up to you.
please just pretend i'm not here and don't pollute my threads with your ignorance and i won't challenge your lies and misinformed opinions any where else. deal?
 
TommyTooter said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
TommyTooter said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
TommyTooter said:
fuck off, you degenerate conservatard. argue with your own words or leave me out of your fanatical, narrow minded, hate driven game.


:D

hey, if jazzy doesn't care whether you address the question, i sure am not going to lower myself to your level of ignorance, pal. please just stay out of my threads so that i'm not nauseated by your completely misguided and rigidly wrongheaded world view and i'll stay away from your nonsense everywhere else. sound fair?

you're not my kind of person. you don't argue rationally and i really don't want to be expressing anger at a stupid man like you. how about you just stop responding to my posts and i'll avoid your ignorance everywhere else? sound fair?

If I see a topic I agree with or do not I am going to respond. If you choose to ignore my response thats up to you.
please just pretend i'm not here and don't pollute my threads with your ignorance and i won't challenge your lies and misinformed opinions any where else. deal?

read above
 
TommyTooter:
The amendment says 'well-regulated militia' -- where are the regulations?

Returning to the text of the Second Amendment itself, the right to keep and bear arms is expressly retained by "the people," not the states. Recently the U.S. Supreme Court confirmed this view, finding that the right to keep and bear arms was an individual right held by the "people," -- a "term of art employed in select parts of the Constitution," specifically the Preamble and the First, Second, Fourth, Ninth and Tenth Amendments. Thus, the term "well regulated" ought to be considered in the context of the noun it modifies, the people themselves, the militia(s).

The above analysis leads us finally to the term "well regulated." What did these two words mean at the time of ratification? Were they commonly used to refer to a governmental bureaucracy as we know it today, with countless rules and regulations and inspectors, or something quite different? We begin this analysis by examining how the term "regulate" was used elsewhere in the Constitution. In every other instance where the term "regulate" is used, or regulations are referred to, the Constitution specifies who is to do the regulating and what is being "regulated." However, in the Second Amendment, the Framers chose only to use the term "well regulated" to describe a militia and chose not to define who or what would regulate it.

It is also important to note that the Framers' chose to use the indefinite article "a" to refer to the militia, rather than the definite article "the." This choice suggests that the Framers were not referring to any particular well regulated militia but, instead, only to the concept that well regulated militias, made up of citizens bearing arms, were necessary to secure a free State. Thus, the Framers chose not to explicitly define who, or what, would regulate the militias, nor what such regulation would consist of, nor how the regulation was to be accomplished.

Source

As you can see, TommyTooter, the answer to your question is there are no regulations.
 
Bluezone777 said:
So you are telling me a licensed doctor dealing with mental health can't deem you mentally fit? If they can't then who? I never said the government was to have any part in stating if someone was mentally fit or any conditions that are to used to determine if they should able able to own a gun as I believe that should fully rest with your doctor. I think you misread that part.


Sorry I missed this.

Not exactly. If the person has committed non violent acts I just do not want one doctor
to have the power of ruining a life and personal rights. There should be a minimum of three or five doctors with no connections to each other to make that determination. I understand you never said government was to have a part in it but if they have a agenda they will find a way to use it against the people.

We can't use outliers when defining age of owning a firearm as being safe. I doubt a majority of kids in that age range would be safe with a gun. It doesn't mean you weren't but laws have to work with what the majority would be capable of in any given age range. I would also say that age range I gave is one you can start handing responsibility for what is done with a firearm as it wouldn't go well to put blame on a mishandled firearm on a 8 year old.

I do not want eight year kids running around with guns but I do believe they should be able to own and use them under close supervision from the parents like I was taught as a kid.

It's as much about legality in owning a firearm as it is in personal responsibility given to what happens when you are in possession and/or ownership of a firearm. I think both sides of the issue need to be addressed together. If you want rights then there has to be repercussions for misuse or incompetence displayed when using said rights. It just can't be all about rights as there has to be protections in place for those victimized by guns whether it be through malicious means or through incompetence.

 
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