Nebulous said:It's pretty much the same as California up there, huh?
Hahah, nooooo. Not by a long shot. Depends on where you're talking, though. I'd say SF if more like what's up here in Portland. It's a mix between Seattle and SF, but about 100k people smaller than Seattle. Lots of Californians finally making their way up here, though. Southern and central California are completely different beasts than Oregon.